Sushi for picnics?

cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Absolutely. It just depends upon what's inside of the sushi. Back on Maui,
some kinds of sushi would sit out in grocery stores or convenient stores,
all day, unrefrigerated.

Rice and seaweed doesn't need to be refrigerated. If it has raw fish in,
yes, definitely. If it's cucumber or even canned tuna, it's not necessary.
Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

kili

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cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Absolutely. It just depends upon what's inside of the sushi. Back on
Maui,
some kinds of sushi would sit out in grocery stores or convenient stores,
all day, unrefrigerated.

Rice and seaweed doesn't need to be refrigerated. If it has raw fish in,
yes, definitely. If it's cucumber or even canned tuna, it's not
necessary.
Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

See, I have no idea about Sushi, I have never tried it. This was on a boat,
today. I just kept looking at it, and wondering. I had cracked crab and
macaroni salad. I guess what you're saying is that trusting the mayo is
probably as big a risk as trusting the sushi. (And by the way I thought all
sushi had raw fish in it.)

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See, I have no idea about Sushi, I have never tried it.

Think BAIT.

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Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Assuming two things, it's safe:

- The sushi is packed so it can be UNDER THE ICE.

- The person bringing it isn't a dolt.

Condition #1 is possible, but because YOU asked the question, condition #2
fails. Bring cold cuts.

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cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Absolutely. It just depends upon what's inside of the sushi. Back
on Maui,
some kinds of sushi would sit out in grocery stores or convenient
stores, all day, unrefrigerated.

Rice and seaweed doesn't need to be refrigerated. If it has raw
fish in, yes, definitely. If it's cucumber or even canned tuna,
it's not necessary.
Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

See, I have no idea about Sushi, I have never tried it. This was on a
boat, today. I just kept looking at it, and wondering. I had cracked
crab and macaroni salad. I guess what you're saying is that trusting
the mayo is probably as big a risk as trusting the sushi. (And by the
way I thought all sushi had raw fish in it.)

Nope, sushi only means rice and seaweed. Sashimi indicates raw fish. You
can have cooked chicken sushi, sarimi sushi (that fake crab stuff), cooked
shrimp sushi, cucumber sushi.......again, all sushi means is rice and
seaweed. It has NOTHING to do with raw fish. (Although some does contain
raw fish.)

kili

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On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:24:55 -0400, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

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See, I have no idea about Sushi, I have never tried it.

Think BAIT.

Sushi DOES NOT MEAN RAW FISH. That's sashimi. Sushi refers to the
vinegared rice. Some sushi combines the rice with pickled or unpickled
vegetables, some with cooked eggs, and some with cooked, pickled, or raw
fish.

--
Peter Aitken

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Nope, sushi only means rice and seaweed.

Sushi does not necessarily contain seaweed. It contains vinegared rice,
not plain rice, that is the definition of sushi.

--
Peter Aitken

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Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

Mayo does not promote spoilage - in fact, commercial mayo tends to
[censored] spoilage. This is an old urban legend that has been long known
false.

--
Peter Aitken

Promote spoilage? I've never heard that theory. However, doesn't mayo
contain raw eggs? How many hours will it remain safe at room (or higher)
temperature?

cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Only if I wanted everyone else at the picnic dead.

--Blair

kilikini said:

cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Absolutely. It just depends upon what's inside of the sushi. Back on Maui,
some kinds of sushi would sit out in grocery stores or convenient stores,
all day, unrefrigerated.

Turning into fish jerky.

Sushi is pretty much worthless 5 minutes after the fish is sliced
off the filet.

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Rice and seaweed doesn't need to be refrigerated. If it has raw fish in,
yes, definitely. If it's cucumber or even canned tuna, it's not necessary.

The seaweed loses its friability and turns into plastic
wrap shortly after becoming damp.

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Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

Okay. Now you're just making funny.

There's way less in mayo to go bad than there is in
cooked fish and rice and veggies.

--Blair

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cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Only if I wanted everyone else at the picnic dead.

Well, I mean, who'd know? It would look like an accident. Just a tragic
accident. Yeah, that's it.

Paul

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Promote spoilage? I've never heard that theory. However, doesn't mayo
contain raw eggs? How many hours will it remain safe at room (or higher)
temperature?

Something you might want to keep in mind, (which quite frankly suprised
the hell out of me years ago when I moved to this side of the pond) is
that MOST countries do NOT refrigerate their eggs!!! They are just
stacked on the shelves like other produce. I haven't had a refrigerated
egg in 17 years. The Japanese also do not put their eggs in the fridge,
and use raw egg yolk as the traditional dip for sukiyaki. I freaked when
I first saw them doing this, KNOWING that they would die within minutes
from salmonella poisoning, but never heard of a single case of it from
eggs in all the years I've been living in Asia.

Better cookbooks will also remind you to use room temperature eggs when
cooking.

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

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Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Only if I was using dry ice and could guarantee the temp.
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:24:55 -0400, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

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See, I have no idea about Sushi, I have never tried it.

Think BAIT.

No, you are thinking sashimi.

Sushi only means "something" combined with vinegared rice. The something
can be almost anything.

cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Sure, its a common thing in Japan.

kilikini said:

Nope, sushi only means rice and seaweed. Sashimi indicates raw fish. You
can have cooked chicken sushi, sarimi sushi (that fake crab stuff), cooked
shrimp sushi, cucumber sushi.......again, all sushi means is rice and
seaweed. It has NOTHING to do with raw fish. (Although some does contain
raw fish.)

kili

Even simpler, it is "something" combined with vinegared rice. Nori is
optional.

kilikini said:

cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Absolutely. It just depends upon what's inside of the sushi. Back on Maui,
some kinds of sushi would sit out in grocery stores or convenient stores,
all day, unrefrigerated.

Rice and seaweed doesn't need to be refrigerated. If it has raw fish in,
yes, definitely. If it's cucumber or even canned tuna, it's not necessary.
Just make sure there's no mayo in there.

kili

Same thing in Japan. I remember numerous times taking it unrefrigerated
on a picnic. It is less than optimum be not unsafe.

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cybercat said:

Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Only if I wanted everyone else at the picnic dead.

--Blair

What a ridiculous statement. A cooler with enough ice keeps food at
refrigerator temperature, so why are you worried?

--
Peter Aitken

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Would you trust it, coming out of a cooler? On a 95 degree day?

Only if I was using dry ice and could guarantee the temp.
--
Peace, Om

Dry ice....don't be ridiculous. Under regular ice, it's fine, assuming the
ice chest isn't a piece of junk.