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  1. I was wondering if anyone has had any success at converting a 20" trials
    set-up into a tubeless set-up?
    If so, what tire/rim/rim strip set did you use? Anything else?

    If not, any insight into this topic would be useful.
    Thanks,
    -Ryan Atkins

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  2. I don’t think it would be worth it. Even though you save weight and
    eliminate pinch flats the tire would probably have less lateral
    stability (folding over) and less bounce. These are all just geusses
    though

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  3. m_extreme_uni said:

    I was wondering if anyone has had any success at converting a 20" trials
    set-up into a tubeless set-up?
    If so, what tire/rim/rim strip set did you use? Anything else?

    If not, any insight into this topic would be useful.
    Thanks,
    -Ryan Atkins

    Can you say fold over?

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  4. For those of us that don't know the physics of a tire, what would be the
    issue?

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  5. DK said:

    Can you say fold over?

    if you put enough air in it, fold over won't be a problem...and great
    trials riders like Ryan ride on relatively high PSI anyway. so I don't
    think it'd be bad.

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  6. I dont think it would be worth the trouble..

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  7. I don't think fold-over would be much of an issue. Just pump up the tire
    some more. HIgher pressuresmake the uni more stable and help tokeep the
    rim from bottoming out.

    Someone on this forum (dirtsurfer?) made a tubeless muni with a try-all
    rim. That said, I think the same could be done with a 19". I think you
    can use the standard try-all rimstrip (and some adhesive of some
    sort...), but I'm not sure.

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  8. DK said:

    Can you say fold over?

    ahahahahaha dude, do u know who u r talking too!!

    its Ryan Atkins, king of the trials lol, i think he has enuff knowledge
    about tyre foldage from his riding!!

    neway i dont reckon it would fold if u put enuff air into the tyre, its
    really about the thickness of the sidewalls of the tyre

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  9. trials2k said:

    ahahahahaha dude, do u know who u r talking too!!

    its Ryan Atkins, king of the trials lol, i think he has enuff knowledge
    about tyre foldage from his riding!!

    neway i dont reckon it would fold if u put enuff air into the tyre, its
    really about the thickness of the sidewalls of the tyre

    haha.
    Do you know who u r talking to?
    Its DK, he´s like the biggest pimp on RSU!

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  10. It's a really interesting idea!

    How much weight would it be saving?
    And most of all, how would it feel riding it? 😉

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  11. well,
    Thanks for the input, yeah those were all things i'd thought of. i
    think it will improve the feel of the tire, and keep the weight
    relatively the same (with all the stans no-tubes stuff i'll use)
    anyways, i'll tell you all how it goes

    -Ryan

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  12. how'd it go?

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  13. James_Potter said:

    if you put enough air in it, fold over won't be a problem...and great
    trials riders like Ryan ride on relatively high PSI anyway. so I don't
    think it'd be bad.

    a great trials rider like ryan would annhilate a tire at way higher psi
    than an average rider. the pressures involved with jumping farther are
    way higher, it most definitely would fold over a lot more. for an
    average rider, it would be reasonable, but for a better rider, not so
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  14. but why you want to do that ?

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  15. Burp

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  16. skrobo said:

    a great trials rider like ryan would annhilate a tire at way higher psi
    than an average rider. the pressures involved with jumping farther are
    way higher, it most definitely would fold over a lot more. for an
    average rider, it would be reasonable, but for a better rider, not so
    much

    Here is a typical Ryan situation:

    [image:
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    I have personally fixed flats for Ryan twice (including after this
    gap), and I've only ridden with the guy a handful of times. I think
    he's very likely to be better off with a tubeless setup with higher
    PSI; fold-over is a function of tire sidewall stiffness combined with
    PSI.

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  17. tubeless in a 20in trials unicycle=worst idea ever

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  18. unicyclepa said:

    tubeless in a 20in trials unicycle=worst idea ever

    I agree

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  19. fold over is not the problem. the tire separating from the rim and
    "burping" is

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  20. Everyone is saying how bad it is, but how many of you have actually
    tried it?

    Im curious now.

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