OL24 White Peak - cover pic

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Gilbert
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Just glanced up and noticed a new OL24 on the shelf
in a local shop but for the life of me I haven't got a clue
where, or if, the pic on the cover is taken in the White
Peak. It shows a walker standing on a small outcrop of
Limestone pavement. Anyone else seen it and have a
clue ?

I don't know where it is but this might help somebody recognise it:

http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/popupDisplay.jsp?whichside=fr
ont&item=2585

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2hcysa

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Dominic Sexton

Thanks Dominic. So kind.

Dominic Sexton said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Gilbert
<[email hidden]> writes

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Just glanced up and noticed a new OL24 on the shelf
in a local shop but for the life of me I haven't got a clue
where, or if, the pic on the cover is taken in the White
Peak. It shows a walker standing on a small outcrop of
Limestone pavement. Anyone else seen it and have a
clue ?

I don't know where it is but this might help somebody recognise it:

http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/popupDisplay.jsp?whichside=fr
ont&item=2585

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2hcysa

If you go to the back you can almost read the copyright notice for the
cover photo :-(
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Phil Cook, last hill: Angletarn Pikes via Beda Fell.
http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/May07/martin9.htm

Phil Cook wrote

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If you go to the back you can almost read the copyright notice for the
cover photo :-(

It just gives the EMAP copyright. It doesn't actually say what
the image is like it used to.

Chris

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Phil Cook wrote

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If you go to the back you can almost read the copyright notice for the
cover photo :-(

It just gives the EMAP copyright. It doesn't actually say what
the image is like it used to.

Chris

We'll have to get out there exploring for the location. Then we can take our
own pictures and Photoshop ourselves onto the cover!

I wonder if it's up on the Roaches, which I am told is a limestone cliff
common with climbers. The Active Map (waterproof version) has a picture of
someone abseiling down a cliff, again only a credit to Emap Active for the
shot.
http://tinyurl.com/ybhn4x

Nick

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"Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just glanced up and noticed a new OL24 on the shelf
in a local shop but for the life of me I haven't got a clue
where, or if, the pic on the cover is taken in the White
Peak. It shows a walker standing on a small outcrop of
Limestone pavement. Anyone else seen it and have a
clue ?

Chris
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Having looked closely at my OL1 Dark Peak (2004 A1 edition), I have to agree
that your picture might not even be in the White Peak, although the green
fields beyond do suggest that.
My map shows the bridge at Three Shires Head, SK009685. It can only be found
on the White Peak OL24 map.

Nick

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Nick Pedley wrote

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I wonder if it's up on the Roaches, which I am told is a limestone cliff

No. The Roaches are a lovely pink grit.

Chris

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I wonder if it's up on the Roaches, which I am told is a limestone cliff
common with climbers.

The Roaches are Gritstone as any climber will tell you and are in
Staffordshire which may have escaped the notice of those who like to
talk about Derbyshire Grit. :-

I thought the picture looked rather like the top of Malham Cove which is
well outside the area of the map (but I am by no means sure).

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Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:47:26 +0100, Roger <[email hidden]>

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I wonder if it's up on the Roaches, which I am told is a limestone cliff
common with climbers.

The Roaches are Gritstone as any climber will tell you and are in
Staffordshire which may have escaped the notice of those who like to
talk about Derbyshire Grit. :-

I thought the picture looked rather like the top of Malham Cove which is
well outside the area of the map (but I am by no means sure).

Feel free to tell me that I'm spouting [censored], if that's what I'm doing,
but aren't there parts of Frogatt Edge/Millstone Edge that look a bit
like that, and the valley beyond could be the Derwent Valley?

Tom Crispin wrote

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Feel free to tell me that I'm spouting [censored], if that's what I'm doing,
but aren't there parts of Frogatt Edge/Millstone Edge that look a bit
like that, and the valley beyond could be the Derwent Valley?

The view's wrong for a start, Tom, and while there's precious
few areas of limestone pavement in the Peaks I'm not aware
of any that enjoy quite such a position as this. But then that's
why I'm curious about the pic. I have *never* seen that view
and I live here. I need to be out taking pics of places like
this if they're in the Peaks but I seriously doubt that this
image comes from anywhere 'round here. I'm with Roger.
I think it's the Yorkshire Dales.

Chris

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Tom Crispin wrote

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Feel free to tell me that I'm spouting [censored], if that's what I'm doing,
but aren't there parts of Frogatt Edge/Millstone Edge that look a bit
like that, and the valley beyond could be the Derwent Valley?

If I recall correctly (and the name Millstone Edge tends to bear me out)
these are composed of gritstone. (I don't see them on the map either -
are they on the Dark Peak sheet?)

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The view's wrong for a start, Tom, and while there's precious
few areas of limestone pavement in the Peaks I'm not aware
of any that enjoy quite such a position as this. But then that's
why I'm curious about the pic. I have *never* seen that view
and I live here. I need to be out taking pics of places like
this if they're in the Peaks but I seriously doubt that this
image comes from anywhere 'round here. I'm with Roger.
I think it's the Yorkshire Dales.

Chris

One hopes the cover photograph represents a location on the map. Given
that I'd guess somewhere around the head of Dovedale - but I've never
walked on the Derbyshire Limestone.
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Stewart Robert Hinsley

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In message <[email hidden]>, Chris Gilbert
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Tom Crispin wrote

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One hopes the cover photograph represents a location on the map. Given
that I'd guess somewhere around the head of Dovedale - but I've never
walked on the Derbyshire Limestone.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

My impression is that the current series of Explorer maps isn't making any
effort to use photos local to the maps on the covers. If I recall correctly
previous Explorer and OL series gave the location on the cover - these ones
don't!

The 3 Snowdonia maps have very "generic" photos.

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from Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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The Roaches are Gritstone as any climber will tell you and are in
Staffordshire which may have escaped the notice of those who like to
talk about Derbyshire Grit. :-

I thought the picture looked rather like the top of Malham Cove which is
well outside the area of the map (but I am by no means sure).

Quoted message said:

Feel free to tell me that I'm spouting [censored], if that's what I'm doing,
but aren't there parts of Frogatt Edge/Millstone Edge that look a bit
like that, and the valley beyond could be the Derwent Valley?

I have never climbed at either Froggatt or Millstone Edge but would
think they are both gritstone. Certainly if Millstone Edge is not
gritstone then someone should have been prosecuted under The Trades
Descriptions Act which, perhaps, should be the fate of the OS if the
cover photo turns out to be outwith the area of the map. :-)

--
Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote

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Given that I'd guess somewhere around the head of Dovedale

An area I know well (I hope!) and it's not that either.

I've emailed the OS. If they respond I'll post it here.

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I've never walked on the Derbyshire Limestone.

Tsk ;-)

Chris

Roger said:

I have never climbed at either Froggatt or Millstone Edge but would
think they are both gritstone.

They are. Millstone is relatively recently quarried and is (just) on OL1.
(The two maps meet at 'Surprise View' between Millstone and Lawrencefield
quarries.)

Froggatt was already a small natural crag before the quarrying started,
which more or less doubled the height of the cliff. So some of the routes
start steep and sharply defined, and become much more rounded at the top.
(The two pitches of Valkyrie are the obvious example.)

The limestone starts just a little further south of Froggatt - you can see
the (gritstone) edges of the Froggatt/Curbar escarpment as you approach the
limestone cliffs around Stoney Middleton.

Sean
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Dear Mr Gilbert,

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Thank you for your email of 1 August 2007 regarding the cover picture on
OL24.

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I have spoken to our photographic department and unfortunately we are

unable

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to give a location or any specific details on the picture as we do not
hold the

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information.

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All I can point you towards is our disclaimer on the map that;

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The photograph on this map cover is intended merely as an illustration of

the

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type of activity that your map is designed to facilitate and/or the type
of landscape

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that may be found in the area covered by the map sheet.

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I am sorry I could not help you further. Thank you for contacting

Ordnance Survey.

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Kind regards

Bollocks, eh ?

It's like, say, putting a picture of someone doing an ornate carving in wood

on the front cover of a book on cookery.

I wonder what Tourist Information make of it...

Chris

Chris Gilbert said:

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Dear Mr Gilbert,
Thank you for your email of 1 August 2007 regarding the cover picture on
OL24.

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I have spoken to our photographic department and unfortunately we are

unable

Quoted message said:

to give a location or any specific details on the picture as we do not
hold the
information.

Quoted message said:

All I can point you towards is our disclaimer on the map that;

Quoted message said:

The photograph on this map cover is intended merely as an illustration of

the

Quoted message said:

type of activity that your map is designed to facilitate and/or the type
of landscape
that may be found in the area covered by the map sheet.

Quoted message said:

I am sorry I could not help you further. Thank you for contacting

Ordnance Survey.

Quoted message said:

Kind regards

Bollocks, eh ?

It's like, say, putting a picture of someone doing an ornate carving in wood

on the front cover of a book on cookery.

I wonder what Tourist Information make of it...

Chris

What a bunch of muppets!

David

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:08:16 +0100, Roger <[email hidden]>

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Feel free to tell me that I'm spouting [censored], if that's what I'm doing,
but aren't there parts of Frogatt Edge/Millstone Edge that look a bit
like that, and the valley beyond could be the Derwent Valley?

I have never climbed at either Froggatt or Millstone Edge but would
think they are both gritstone. Certainly if Millstone Edge is not
gritstone then someone should have been prosecuted under The Trades
Descriptions Act which, perhaps, should be the fate of the OS if the
cover photo turns out to be outwith the area of the map. :-)

Okay, okay - I was spouting [censored]!

Chris Gilbert said:

Just glanced up and noticed a new OL24 on the shelf
in a local shop but for the life of me I haven't got a clue
where, or if, the pic on the cover is taken in the White
Peak. It shows a walker standing on a small outcrop of
Limestone pavement. Anyone else seen it and have a
clue ?

I walk in the Peak District once or twice a week, and I don't recognise
it - I'd have to agree with the poster who suggested it was somewhere in
the Yorkshire dales . . .

Steve Wilcox