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  1. news.bbc.co.uk3283169.stm

    Sledging 'has hidden dangers'

    Sledgers are advised to take safety precautions Sledging is more dangerous than most
    people think, according to a study. Researchers who studied accident figures in Dundee
    found that the activity was blamed for 10% of children's injuries.

    The study, published in the Emergency Medicine Journal, was carried out when the first snow of
    winter fell in December 2002 and January this year.

    The report's authors have called for safety instructions to be issued with the sale of
    all sledges.

    During the two weeks covered by the study 422 children required emergency treatment
    in the city.

    Twenty five boys and 21 girls aged between two and 13 required treatment for sledging
    injuries.

    There seems to be very little awareness that sledging is a potentially dangerous
    activity and few safety precautions are taken

    Report's authors Three children had to be admitted to hospital with head injuries, while
    there were also nine broken legs and seven broken arms.

    A total of eight children had to be admitted to hospital, 12 required outpatient appointments
    and 26 were allowed to go home after treatment.

    Almost a third of the cases involved children falling off a sledge.

    In almost all the incidents the children had been on plastic sledges, although one had been
    using a skateboard.

    More than 25% of the injuries were caused after children collided with stationary objects.

    The report's authors recommend that children wear protective headgear and gloves
    while sledging.

    Young novices

    They said youngsters should choose slopes which are free of trees, posts or bollards.

    "Sledges travel fast, are difficult to steer and hard to brake," they said.

    "They are often driven by young novices on slopes that are crowded, unprepared and
    unsupervised.

    "There seems to be very little awareness that sledging is a
    potentially dangerous activity and few safety precautions are taken."

  2. But wouldn't they become the Sledging Helmet Initiative Trust

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    The Reply & From email addresses are checked rarely.

  3. MSeries said:

    But wouldn't they become the Sledging Helmet Initiative Trust

    Actually Bicycling and Sledging Helmet Initiative Trust hence the title

    Tony

    raven-family.comraven-family.com

    ~(_8^(|)

  4. MSeries said:

    But wouldn't they become the Sledging Helmet Initiative Trust

    And they could save the NHS £6billion.

    John B

  5. In message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    news.bbc.co.uk3283169.stm

    Sledging 'has hidden dangers'

    I always thought they were pretty obvious myself......

    Quoted message said:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    In almost all the incidents the children had been on plastic sledges, although one had been
    using a skateboard.


    Are there is the problem they should have been using an old tea tray or the top of an old washing
    machine.......

    Quoted message said:

    More than 25% of the injuries were caused after children collided with stationary objects.

    The report's authors recommend that children wear protective headgear and gloves while
    sledging.


    Well that will stop you breaking your leg/arm.

    Quoted message said:


    "Sledges travel fast, are difficult to steer and hard to brake," they said.


    Isn't that the point... :-)
    --
    Chris French, Leeds

  6. <rant> Someone needs badly to be shot for wasting money on this sort of [censored]. I'm surprised they
    don't recommend a total ban, replacing sledges with large four wheel drive tin boxes, wrapping
    children in cotton wool and not letting them out of the house without an armed escort in case
    Michael Jackson is lurking in the rhododendron bushes. </rant>

    Thank you. I feel better now.

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
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  7. chris French said:

    I always thought they were pretty obvious myself......

    Not the way the snow covers those festive tree stumps!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Sledges travel fast, are difficult to steer and hard to brake," they said.

    Quoted message said:

    Isn't that the point... :-)

    I thought so, but you need to get inside a plastic bivvi bag and head down a corrie headwall to
    *really* have no control! ;-)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
    dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  8. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    them out of the house without an armed escort in case Michael Jackson is lurking in the
    rhododendron bushes.

    No, the parents are irresponsible idiots for letting children near rhododendrons.

    Anyone want to raise 1250 quid sponsorship to go on holiday for the "campaign to remove dangerous
    bushes" .... hmmm a different campaign comes to mind there.

  9. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MSeries said:

    But wouldn't they become the Sledging Helmet Initiative Trust

    And they could save the NHS £6billion.

    More in a year when it snowed.

    :~)

  10. In "]news:[email hidden], Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:
    chris French said:

    I always thought they were pretty obvious myself......

    Not the way the snow covers those festive tree stumps!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Sledges travel fast, are difficult to steer and hard to brake," they said.

    Quoted message said:

    Isn't that the point... :-)

    I thought so, but you need to get inside a plastic bivvi bag and head down a corrie headwall to
    *really* have no control! ;-)

    Nutter. I was tempted to do that once (actually it was a cwm headwall), but fortunately lacked the
    bivvy bag (as it was only a small mountain/hill)

    A

  11. Quoted message said:

    Sledging 'has hidden dangers'

    Sledgers are advised to take safety precautions Sledging is more dangerous than most
    people think, according to a study. Researchers who studied accident figures in Dundee
    found that the activity was blamed for 10% of children's injuries.

    The study, published in the Emergency Medicine Journal, was carried out when the first snow
    of winter fell in December 2002 and January this year.

    The report's authors have called for safety instructions to be issued with the sale of all
    sledges.

    During the two weeks covered by the study 422 children required emergency treatment in the
    city.

    Twenty five boys and 21 girls aged between two and 13 required treatment for sledging
    injuries.

    There seems to be very little awareness that sledging is a potentially dangerous
    activity and few safety precautions are taken

    Report's authors Three children had to be admitted to hospital with head injuries,
    while there were also nine broken legs and seven broken arms.

    A total of eight children had to be admitted to hospital, 12 required outpatient
    appointments and 26 were allowed to go home after treatment.

    Almost a third of the cases involved children falling off a sledge.

    In almost all the incidents the children had been on plastic sledges, although one had been
    using a skateboard.

    More than 25% of the injuries were caused after children collided with stationary objects.

    The report's authors recommend that children wear protective headgear and gloves while
    sledging.

    Young novices

    They said youngsters should choose slopes which are free of trees, posts or bollards.

    "Sledges travel fast, are difficult to steer and hard to brake," they said.

    "They are often driven by young novices on slopes that are crowded, unprepared and
    unsupervised.

    "There seems to be very little awareness that sledging is a
    potentially dangerous activity and few safety precautions are taken."

    Excellent. I had a friend who would have really wound them up. In deep enough snow he would ride
    down a particularly steep hill on his bike, then stand up with one foor on the cross bar thingy and
    one on the handlebars. When he got to the bottom the bike would bite into the deeper snow and over
    he'd go, landing on a snow drift, often with the bike cartwheeling past him.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Sledging 'has hidden dangers'

    True indeed. There's always the possibility that the batsman may get violent.

    Clicky-ba clack many skulls...

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Dave

    Larrington) said:

    lurking in the rhododendron bushes.

    Did you know that in 60% of reported accidents involving rhododendrons there were facial
    disfigurements ?

    Jon

  14. Jon Schneider said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Dave
    Larrington) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lurking in the rhododendron bushes.

    Quoted message said:

    Did you know that in 60% of reported accidents involving rhododendrons there were facial
    disfigurements ?

    Something certainly seemed to disfigure a good 60% of Michael Jackson's...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
    dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  15. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clicky-ba clack many skulls...

    I have a horrible suspicion I know where that comes from, but I'm not stupid enough to
    admit to it ;-)

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

  16. In "]news:[email hidden], W K <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    them out of the house without an armed escort in case Michael Jackson is lurking in the
    rhododendron bushes.

    No, the parents are irresponsible idiots for letting children near rhododendrons.

    Anyone want to raise 1250 quid sponsorship to go on holiday for the "campaign to remove dangerous
    bushes" .... hmmm a different campaign comes to mind there.

    If you're quick you need only go to London.

    You can give me as a reference if the palace needs one.

  17. Just zis Guy said:

    I have a horrible suspicion I know where that comes from, but I'm not stupid enough to admit
    to it ;-)

    I'll save you the trouble. It was Chung, the "native servant" of the Wolf of Kabul, John Simpson
    (John Simpson? Are you /sure/ about this? - Ed.) who wielded the Clicky-Ba against the Wily Pathan
    and similar Unwashed Foreigners.

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  18. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'll save you the trouble. It was Chung, the "native servant" of the Wolf of Kabul, John Simpson
    (John Simpson? Are you /sure/ about this? - Ed.) who wielded the Clicky-Ba against the Wily Pathan
    and similar Unwashed Foreigners.

    Bill Sampson, I thought, but ICBW.

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

  19. Just zis Guy said:

    Bill Sampson, I thought, but ICBW.

    korekt. However, John Simpson of the BRITON 's BBC is now known around Larrington Towers and other
    Haunts of Larringtons as "The Wolf Of Kabul" after personally liberating the city during President
    Twig's police action.

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  20. Tony Raven said:


    Sledging 'has hidden dangers'

    The worst looking childhood accident I was involved in was sledging. If you split your face to teh
    bone from teh end of your nose up well into the hair line, you wouldn't believe how much blood comes
    out. If you then panic and run around in circles in teh snow you get an enormous patch of blood - it
    looks like the site of a massacre.

    Of course, we were without adult supervision, so he then had to walk home too.

    regards, Ian SMith
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