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  1. For years I lived in New Jersey, shopped at the Ft Dix commissary, and
    bought a beef roast labeled "bolar roast". Eventually I eliminated beef
    meals due to my husbands health. We moved to the south --first Florida,
    later So. Carolina and in both states I can not find a "bolar roast" I
    have asked the butchers in the grocery stores what cut of beef is called
    BR, none of them have heard of it. BTW I live alone now. I can cook
    what I want to eat. Anyone heard of this roast? Pat

  2. (Pat Evans) said:

    For years I lived in New Jersey, shopped at the Ft Dix commissary, and
    bought a beef roast labeled "bolar roast". Eventually I eliminated beef
    meals due to my husbands health. We moved to the south --first Florida,
    later So. Carolina and in both states I can not find a "bolar roast" I
    have asked the butchers in the grocery stores what cut of beef is called
    BR, none of them have heard of it. BTW I live alone now. I can cook
    what I want to eat. Anyone heard of this roast? Pat

    Bolar roast is just bone-in chuck roast.

    --Bryan

  3. [email hidden] (Pat Evans) wrote in news:9360-46941AAE-958
    @storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net:

    Quoted message said:

    bolar roast

    practicallyedible.comencyclopaedia!
    openframeset&frame=Right&Src=/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast!
    opendocument&keyword=Bolar+Roastf

    or http://tinyurl.com/yq9czo

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  4. Pat Evans said:

    For years I lived in New Jersey, shopped at the Ft Dix commissary, and
    bought a beef roast labeled "bolar roast" .... Anyone heard of this
    roast?

    Yep. I've heard of it.

    (Or I could have given the JoeSpareCloset answer)

    -sw

  5. hahabogus said:
    (Pat Evans) said:

    bolar roast

    practicallyedible.comencyclopaedia!
    openframeset&frame=Right&Src=/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast!
    opendocument&keyword=Bolar+Roastf

    or http://tinyurl.com/yq9czo

    The actual link is already short enough:

    <http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast>

    BTW, the encyclopaedia looks interesting and I've been looking at its
    entries for the past several weeks, whenever I had a few minutes to
    spare. It looks better than many such sources, but is, of course,
    imperfect. If it is not too imperfect, the link to it may well belong
    in the FAQ. So far, I have discovered such entries as "borscht", which
    claims that a St. Petersburg version includes herring. The claim is
    ridiculous. The encyclopaedia also seems to ignore most everything
    Korean, even kimchi. On the other hand, it does not claim that kimchi
    belongs in borscht.

    Victor

  6. (Victor Sack) said:
    hahabogus said:

    [email hidden] (Pat Evans) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bolar roast

    Quoted message said:

    practicallyedible.comencyclopaedia!
    openframeset&frame=Right&Src=/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast!
    opendocument&keyword=Bolar+Roastf

    Quoted message said:

    orhttp://tinyurl.com/yq9czo

    The actual link is already short enough:

    <http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast>

    BTW, the encyclopaedia looks interesting and I've been looking at its
    entries for the past several weeks, whenever I had a few minutes to
    spare. It looks better than many such sources, but is, of course,
    imperfect. If it is not too imperfect, the link to it may well belong
    in the FAQ. So far, I have discovered such entries as "borscht", which
    claims that a St. Petersburg version includes herring. The claim is
    ridiculous. The encyclopaedia also seems to ignore most everything
    Korean, even kimchi. On the other hand, it does not claim that kimchi
    belongs in borscht.

    Victor

    hmmm. Just tripped across this and checked out the herring thing. The
    Boston Globe at least agrees with them:

    http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/6012-9.cfm

  7. Quoted message said:
    (VictorSack) said:
    hahabogus said:

    [email hidden] (Pat Evans) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > bolar roast

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    practicallyedible.comencyclopaedia!
    openframeset&frame=Right&Src=/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast!
    opendocument&keyword=Bolar+Roastf

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    orhttp://tinyurl.com/yq9czo

    Quoted message said:

    The actual link is already short enough:

    Quoted message said:

    <http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/list/Bolar+Roast>

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, the encyclopaedia looks interesting and I've been looking at its
    entries for the past several weeks, whenever I had a few minutes to
    spare. It looks better than many such sources, but is, of course,
    imperfect. If it is not too imperfect, the link to it may well belong
    in the FAQ. So far, I have discovered such entries as "borscht", which
    claims that a St. Petersburg version includes herring. The claim is
    ridiculous. The encyclopaedia also seems to ignore most everything
    Korean, even kimchi. On the other hand, it does not claim that kimchi
    belongs in borscht.

    Quoted message said:

    Victor

    p.s. went there and looked http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/pages/kimchi

  8. Quoted message said:
    (Victor Sack) said:


    So far, I have discovered such entries as "borscht", which
    claims that a St. Petersburg version includes herring. The claim is
    ridiculous. The encyclopaedia also seems to ignore most everything
    Korean, even kimchi. On the other hand, it does not claim that kimchi
    belongs in borscht.

    hmmm. Just tripped across this and checked out the herring thing. The
    Boston Globe at least agrees with them:

    http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/6012-9.cfm

    The Boston Globe, or rather the author of the article, is ignorant,
    stupid, or both - and, believe me, I do not use these words
    indiscriminately or lightly. One does not research St. Petersburg food
    in Boston suburbs, one goes to the source. For some reason he also
    decided to quote the perfectly innocent Chekhov, attributing to him his
    own idiotic assumption that "a Ukrainian borscht is the most popular
    variety in Odessa". First, Odessa is in the Ukraine; second, there are
    many regional borscht variations in the Ukraine; third, Odessa-style
    borscht is made with poultry, not with ham and sausages; fourth, the
    sausages in question are "sosiski", i.e. similar to
    frankfurters/wieners, not to whatever he imagines to be "kielbasa".

    I happen to have first-hand knowledge of what people do or do not eat in
    St. Petersburg. They do not put herring in their borscht. In fact,
    there is in no particular St. Petersburg version of borscht at all. I
    also have plenty of original Russian sources (i.e. cookbooks and such)
    from 1861 to the present and none of them mention any such ridiculous
    custom ever existing in St. Petersburg.

    Borscht versions with fish do exist, most of them using saltwater fish,
    which already indicates their relatively recent origin (traditional
    Russian cuisine used mostly freshwater fish), and nearly all of such
    recipes are idiosyncratic rather than regional, traditional, or
    otherwise established. None of them have anything to do with St.
    Petersburg. If you read Russian, you will find numerous borscht
    variations here:

    <http://www.gotovim.ru/recepts/soups/borch/>.

    Victor

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    (VictorSack) said:

    The encyclopaedia also seems to ignore most everything
    Korean, even kimchi.

    p.s. went there and looked
    http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/pages/kimchi

    Hmm, yes, indeed. Thanks. Strange, actually... I distinctly remember
    looking through all the "k" entries, searching for kimchi. The entry
    might have been added afterwards.

    Victor

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