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  1. Talking about the herbalsmokeshop.com legal buds

    they actually list what it is...
    I just pasted ingredients for leisure
    http://www.herbal-smoking.com/howisitlegal.html

    interesting. some of these are bound to be psychotropic

    ======
    Artemesia Vulgaris also known as: 'Mugwort' is a mild relaxant. It is
    useful for nervous tension.

    Damiana has been used for thousands of years in Latin American
    cultures ritualistically as a
    sexual stimulant. It is one of the most commonly used aphrodesiacs in
    the world.

    Damiana effects the nervous system, soothing anxiety, nervousness and
    mild depression, promoting the general feeling of well-being. A great
    herb, without a doubt, and a great smoke too. You can find damiana in
    our Dreamsmoke Blend.

    Kava Kava has been tested against traditional benzodiazepines for use
    in controlling anxiety.
    Kava Kava is the herb of choice to relax the body, relieve stress,
    anxiety, headache and back
    pain. Kava has been used for three thousand years by the people of the
    South Pacific for
    ceremonial, social and medicinal purposes.

    Today, Kava can help reduce normal anxiety without impairing mental
    function. The kava root contains compounds called kavalactones, which
    have been revered for their unique ability to help promote relaxation.
    The benefits of kava appear to be many. It has long been used by
    Pacific islanders to help reduce pain. It works on the central nervous
    system and promotes relaxation to those suffering anxiety or
    depression. Kava may also help promote more restful sleep to those
    struggling with insomnia or restlessness, and it helps relax sore,
    tired muscles.

    You can find kava kava in our Dreamsmoke Blend. You can also find kava
    kava in our honey blonde solid Honey Blonde Solid Concentrate,

    Wild Lettuce - Lactuca Virosa commonly referred to as wild lettuce .
    Traditionally used as a mild sedative or hypnotic for insomnia and
    relaxation, it is also used for coughing, nervousness and pain relief
    associated with women's ailments. It is one of the ingredients found
    in some of our herbal smoking blends.

    Lavendar is used to relieve anxiety, tension and stress. You can find
    lavender in many of our products.

    Mexican Damiana is used to regulate the female cycles. It is also used
    to stimulate the sexual appetite. It is commonly used for urinary
    problems and nervousness.

    Passion Vine is used to treat nervous and restlessness. In short, the
    effects of passion vine are
    believed to be primarily on the nervous system. Its effects are
    particularly touted for those with
    anxiety due to mental worry and overwork.

    Poppy Flower is used for pain, insomnia, nervousness, and chronic
    coughs.

    Sage is beneficial to the mind by easing mental exhaustion and by
    strengthening the concentrating
    abilities.

    Scotch Broom tops are a traditional smoking herb.

    Skullcap (also spelled Scullcap) a sattvic herb, promotes awareness
    and clarity. Helps clear fiery emotions like anger and jealousy. Calms
    the mind and heart to prepare the way for meditation. . Prepares the
    mind and nerves for the flows of energy we experience with insight and
    healing. You can find Skullcap in our Dreamsmoke, Merlin's Blend and
    Spirit Walk products.

    Star of Bethlehem is traditionally used to calm nervousness. You can
    find star of bethlehem in many of our products.

    Tagetes has been traditionally used to sooth the digestive and
    respiratory tracts.

    Herbs for Flavor and Soothing Effects: Peppermint & Mentha are added
    to many smokes to improve the taste and aroma.

    ===
    but uh.. no real sticky stuff

  2. One of our import customers imports kava powder on a pretty regular
    basis, and just had a shipment delivered last week by my husband. He
    had to pick it up from the airport, and all the guys in the warehouse
    were jonesin' for a bag of it- it was a shipment of 40 bags. When DH
    got to the guy's house, he was greeted with a cup of it, which was the
    first time he ever tried it. Said it tasted like dirt, but was wired
    from it for a few hours. Nothing beats a good bud, tho.

  3. merryb said:

    from it for a few hours. Nothing beats a good bud, tho.

    yeah, wired is always subjective, some folk don't need a kick to the
    heart, like me.
    I am pretty wired normally by my self. which is why Im probably going
    to try some of the Hawaiian gold bud

    "Seriously BIG Buds with a seriously Potent Smoke.
    Do not be fooled by cheap imitations, there is only ONE Hawaiian Gold
    Bud!
    A Herbal Smoke Shop Exclusive! "

    see. they the only ones with this particular herb. (whatever it
    actually is)

    "Over 100 lbs a month flown in FRESH from the island of hawaii! Grown
    from our huge reserve in hawaii and seen in our ad in high times and
    voted the world's best 100% legal smokes by top smoking magazine
    readers 7 years in a row for it's extremely POTENT smoke and uncanny
    smell & appearance. Freshly Picked and bagged directly from our 2000
    acre reserve in Hawaii! Unlike any other herbal bud available today,
    the smoke is ultra potent, and very fresh. "

    haha

    who woulda thought. then again, who says that THC is the only fun
    thing growing on the planet.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:

    but uh.. no real sticky stuff

    I don't do smokes, but thanks. :-)

    I have used various legal herbals medicinally.

    The fresh catnip I grow for the cats, brewed fresh, makes a soothing
    cough suppressant and my herb garden has a small culinary section.

    Whole fresh basil leaf eaten in sufficient quantities is not only
    delicious, but it has a mild tranquilizing effect.

    When I really need to calm down in a hurry, I use Valerian tincture.

    Thanks!
    --
    Peace, Om

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  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:

    Poppy Flower is used for pain, insomnia, nervousness, and chronic
    coughs.

    Ps, Poppy is also not legal to harvest for ingestion, and it'll cause a
    positive opiate drug screens which would end my career.
    --
    Peace, Om

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  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:

    yeah, wired is always subjective, some folk don't need a kick to the
    heart, like me.
    I am pretty wired normally by my self. which is why Im probably going
    to try some of the Hawaiian gold bud

    I tend to be a bit wired too, which is why I avoid stimulants for the
    most part. I don't even drink coffee.

    Good tranq's include catnip, basil leaf, valerian root and even
    chamomile if you brew it strong enough.

    I've tried skullcap and it works, but it gives me a hangover.
    --
    Peace, Om

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  7. Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:

    Poppy Flower is used for pain, insomnia, nervousness, and chronic
    coughs.

    Ps, Poppy is also not legal to harvest for ingestion, and it'll cause a
    positive opiate drug screens which would end my career.

    wow. It's almost arguable, just because some folk have no self control
    they spoil it for the rest.

    I wish I had an herb garden, hydroponics sound a little interesting
    too.
    `

    then! there is our own chem fact.
    this one is for all the old queens who I still owe a few small flames

    smell like hg, must be hg
    only
    IN YOUR FACE COPPER!!! IM SUING THE WHOLE CITY

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ps, Poppy is also not legal to harvest for ingestion, and it'll cause a
    positive opiate drug screens which would end my career.

    wow. It's almost arguable, just because some folk have no self control
    they spoil it for the rest.

    I wish I had an herb garden, hydroponics sound a little interesting
    too.
    `

    then! there is our own chem fact.
    this one is for all the old queens who I still owe a few small flames

    I like LZ. :-)

    Hydroponics is certainly more efficient...

    But, you can do an herb garden in a few small pots if you have any
    outdoor space at all.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  9. Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I like LZ. :-)

    Hydroponics is certainly more efficient...

    But, you can do an herb garden in a few small pots if you have any
    outdoor space at all.

    I want to.

    I also want to get one combo bag of legal buds, to sell to somebody I
    don't like.
    These folk are selling each other rocks off of the ground, little
    white rocks.
    I hear about it, they are like, so and so sold me a 20

    it's just funny, not like they can press charges

    but one girl did, and they had the rock in the courtroom
    the judge said, well! you bought a rock... and fined her for taking up
    his time.

    I have a good size planter on the porch, I could toss a few herbs
    seeds in there.
    It's not like Im burning down the house every night cooking. Being
    summer and all, I wouldn't dare light the wood stove, I do have an apt
    size stove in storage. It's just not neccissito right now.

    The main thing is to keep the main thing, the main thing.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:
    Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I like LZ. :-)

    Hydroponics is certainly more efficient...

    But, you can do an herb garden in a few small pots if you have any
    outdoor space at all.

    I want to.

    I also want to get one combo bag of legal buds, to sell to somebody I
    don't like.
    These folk are selling each other rocks off of the ground, little
    white rocks.
    I hear about it, they are like, so and so sold me a 20

    Watch out, they may kill you. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    it's just funny, not like they can press charges

    but one girl did, and they had the rock in the courtroom
    the judge said, well! you bought a rock... and fined her for taking up
    his time.

    Too funny!

    Quoted message said:


    I have a good size planter on the porch, I could toss a few herbs
    seeds in there.
    It's not like Im burning down the house every night cooking. Being
    summer and all, I wouldn't dare light the wood stove, I do have an apt
    size stove in storage. It's just not neccissito right now.

    The main thing is to keep the main thing, the main thing.

    But many culinary herbs are also medicinal and useful in incenses and
    rituals. One good example is Dittany of Crete. My favorite substitute
    for Oregano in cooking.

    According to Scott Cunningham, it's the primary dried herbal added to
    sacred incenses for helping to promote astral projection. That herb is
    unique to that particular use in any of the tomes you check.

    You need to read a separate set of books sometime if you are seeking
    true altered states and not just looking to get stoned. Vodka works fine
    for that reliably. Tequila is even better. ;-)

    Have you tried Diviners Sage yet? (Salvia divinorum) It's effects are
    most unique and it's still legal for now. But, it's anything but
    recreational! I did try it 4 times but have not touched it (or any other
    alterational herbal) now for a solid 3 years.

    I've not felt the desire...

    It's one of many reasons I rarely drop in on alt.drugs.psychedelics.

    That and Paisley Sky! Is he still posting there?
    --
    Peace, Om

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  11. Omelet said:

    But many culinary herbs are also medicinal and useful in incenses and
    rituals. One good example is Dittany of Crete. My favorite substitute
    for Oregano in cooking.

    Quoted message said:

    According to Scott Cunningham, it's the primary dried herbal added to
    sacred incenses for helping to promote astral projection. That herb is
    unique to that particular use in any of the tomes you check.

    Quoted message said:

    You need to read a separate set of books sometime if you are seeking
    true altered states and not just looking to get stoned. Vodka works fine
    for that reliably. Tequila is even better. ;-)

    I like good gin

    Quoted message said:

    Have you tried Diviners Sage yet?

    No, not yet

    Quoted message said:

    (Salvia divinorum) It's effects are
    most unique and it's still legal for now. But, it's anything but
    recreational! I did try it 4 times but have not touched it (or any other
    alterational herbal) now for a solid 3 years.

    Why would you say it's not recreational, cause it's potent?

    Quoted message said:

    I've not felt the desire...

    hey hey..., well.. that's alright, I feel the same way too

    Quoted message said:

    It's one of many reasons I rarely drop in on alt.drugs.psychedelics.
    That and Paisley Sky! Is he still posting there?

    I haven't been there either. One night I took about 4 - 5 capsules of
    an herbal looking pill. I knew what it was then, ah! good circulation.
    wow, it worked really good. I was very hot, my skin was like hot. I
    took a cool shower, and... etc...

    someone asked me, "was you supposed to take 5?" lol
    under the circumstances, seeing that my lips and hair was on fire, I
    felt like the question was somewhat rhetorical.

    ~
    ob:ot: as I scatted around reading aaaaallll about legal buds, i've
    never seen such hen-scratch on a professional web site they wrote
    stuff like (out they be go to test the new gold bud)... I really
    think they do it on purpose. orrrrrrr they are smoking up the
    proffits. It was like that on more than one site, I kept thinking...
    what is up.
    then it hit me! we dealin with a bunch of budheads

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:
    Quoted message said:

    You need to read a separate set of books sometime if you are seeking
    true altered states and not just looking to get stoned. Vodka works fine
    for that reliably. Tequila is even better. ;-)

    I like good gin

    Ew, but to each his own! <G>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Have you tried Diviners Sage yet?

    No, not yet

    Quoted message said:

    (Salvia divinorum) It's effects are
    most unique and it's still legal for now. But, it's anything but
    recreational! I did try it 4 times but have not touched it (or any other
    alterational herbal) now for a solid 3 years.

    Why would you say it's not recreational, cause it's potent?

    No... because the effects are not "recreational".
    It can be "disturbing".

    It is the one psychedelic where everyone has similar experiences.
    It's a true "working" herb that really seems to take you out of yourself
    into a "different" plane of existence.

    It's difficult to discuss it without a common frame of reference.

    The trips can be and usually are a bit disturbing and scary. Not "fun"
    like low doses of mushroom.

    I have yet to talk to anyone that's tried it that disagrees with this.
    There is a separate list, alt.drugs.salvia if you want more input.

    It's a bit compelling tho' if you are looking for a substance useful for
    spiritual development.

    Erowid.org did a poll. 80% of people that have used SD concentrates
    never touch it again. It can be that scary.

    Fortunately the trips only last 10 minutes if smoked. ;-) The trick is
    smoking it properly as Salvinorin D (the active alkaloid) takes a very
    high temperature to volatize and be effective when inhaled.

    Let's just say that the first time I used 10X SD the trip scared the
    living hell out of me! I was thinking to myself "I cannot HANDLE this!"
    but the entities chanted in time to the music
    "Yesyoucanyesyoucanyesyoucan".

    The vortex is not fun the first time you encounter it.

    And you wonder why I only used it 4 times. ;-)

    I think the only reason that it's still legal is that it's not popular
    and I doubt that it ever will be.

    The most interesting thing is that you are never "alone" when you try it.
    "They" are always there.

    The most profound experience was the last time I smoked it. One of my
    co-workers Nephews had died that morning from Leukemia. He was 7 years
    old. I'd never met him but had been in on the usual "give us money to
    help with his therapy" thing. I'd donated a Swarovsky Crystal and
    Sterling Silver Rosary that I had made for them to raffle off. It raised
    quite a bit of money.

    Anyway, the night after he passed, I used a dose of 1x (straight leaf)
    and took one bowl which is 3 hits.

    When the vortex came up, I saw him there in my vision with 2 spirit
    guides holding his hands. Keep in mind I'd never seen this child, not
    even a picture. He told me to tell Gramma Rose that he was ok. He's just
    came to say goodbye.

    I cried for about an hour after coming down.

    The next day, Rose had posted pictures of Jesse in the lab and he looked
    exactly like I'd seen him.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've not felt the desire...

    hey hey..., well.. that's alright, I feel the same way too

    I only messed with them for about 6 months to try to get over the
    depression from my Mother's death.

    They worked where nothing else had. To me, they are medicine, not toys.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's one of many reasons I rarely drop in on alt.drugs.psychedelics.
    That and Paisley Sky! Is he still posting there?

    I haven't been there either. One night I took about 4 - 5 capsules of
    an herbal looking pill. I knew what it was then, ah! good circulation.
    wow, it worked really good. I was very hot, my skin was like hot. I
    took a cool shower, and... etc...

    someone asked me, "was you supposed to take 5?" lol
    under the circumstances, seeing that my lips and hair was on fire, I
    felt like the question was somewhat rhetorical.

    Not too bright dear. :-)
    I'd never take something that I did not know the exact content of! It's
    why I never did and never will touch street drugs. I only ever played
    with 3 herbals where I knew exactly what I was messing around with.

    Quoted message said:


    ~
    ob:ot: as I scatted around reading aaaaallll about legal buds, i've
    never seen such hen-scratch on a professional web site they wrote
    stuff like (out they be go to test the new gold bud)... I really
    think they do it on purpose. orrrrrrr they are smoking up the
    proffits. It was like that on more than one site, I kept thinking...
    what is up.
    then it hit me! we dealin with a bunch of budheads

    The last time I smoked pot was 20 years ago right after I graduated
    college. I had a major panic attack from 3 bong hits! I never did like
    what it did to my short term memory anyway. <G>

    I'm now subject to random drug screens at work, so playing around with
    the usual "Drugs of abuse" is not an option anyway.

    Not that I was interested in them. :-)

    Psychedelics are not tested for. They take special handling and specific
    testing. Not everybody knows that.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  13. Omelet said:

    When the vortex came up, I saw him there in my vision with 2 spirit
    guides holding his hands. Keep in mind I'd never seen this child, not
    even a picture. He told me to tell Gramma Rose that he was ok. He's just
    came to say goodbye.

    I cried for about an hour after coming down.

    wow

    Quoted message said:

    The next day, Rose had posted pictures of Jesse in the lab and he looked
    exactly like I'd seen him.

    Do you feel for example in your case, the gift of visions was
    enhanced? or it tot. relaxed you to be open to them? might this have
    happened naturally, I say certianly.
    I figure this highly peculiar herb you used, tapped or stimulated
    further into the mind.

    You might remember, I believe we can move things with our minds...
    just depends on how skilled we are at channeling and excersizing. I
    think it's reasonable of me to think any mind running at full capacity
    (vs 8%) should be capable of extraordinary things.

    Quoted message said:

    what it did to my short term memory anyway. <G>

    that's what gps is for

  14. Omelet said:

    Psychedelics are not tested for. They take special handling and specific
    testing. Not everybody knows that.

    Oh and thanks for the hookup, it's the newest craze, Dutch Vortex, it
    really gets the job done.

  15. Omelet said:

    The most profound experience was the last time I smoked it. One of my
    co-workers Nephews had died that morning from Leukemia. He was 7 years
    old. I'd never met him but had been in on the usual "give us money to
    help with his therapy" thing. I'd donated a Swarovsky Crystal and
    Sterling Silver Rosary that I had made for them to raffle off. It raised
    quite a bit of money.

    That was very nice of you, I'm sure your vision and what you told her
    was a real comfort to the family.
    -
    and, IT'S LUNCHTIME YAAAAAYYY!!

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:
    Omelet said:

    When the vortex came up, I saw him there in my vision with 2 spirit
    guides holding his hands. Keep in mind I'd never seen this child, not
    even a picture. He told me to tell Gramma Rose that he was ok. He's just
    came to say goodbye.

    I cried for about an hour after coming down.

    wow

    Quoted message said:

    The next day, Rose had posted pictures of Jesse in the lab and he looked
    exactly like I'd seen him.

    Do you feel for example in your case, the gift of visions was
    enhanced? or it tot. relaxed you to be open to them? might this have
    happened naturally, I say certianly.
    I figure this highly peculiar herb you used, tapped or stimulated
    further into the mind.

    I don't know.
    There are too many that have experienced "advanced" and very strange
    things with X-concentrates of this herb.

    If it were me, I'd never EVER go beyond 10x! There are others that want
    the higher concentrates, but I can't help but wonder if they simply are
    not using it right.

    1 hit and I always put the pipe down and snuggled under my covers.

    If you want greater detail please take this to private e-mail.

    Quoted message said:


    You might remember, I believe we can move things with our minds...
    just depends on how skilled we are at channeling and excersizing. I
    think it's reasonable of me to think any mind running at full capacity
    (vs 8%) should be capable of extraordinary things.

    Quoted message said:

    what it did to my short term memory anyway. <G>

    that's what gps is for

    gps?

    Nevermind. I'm really not interested in smoking pot any more. :-)
    It's just not an herb that does anything "good" for me but I won't
    begrudge it to those that it works for.
    --
    Peace, Om

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  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wheat germ said:
    Omelet said:

    The most profound experience was the last time I smoked it. One of my
    co-workers Nephews had died that morning from Leukemia. He was 7 years
    old. I'd never met him but had been in on the usual "give us money to
    help with his therapy" thing. I'd donated a Swarovsky Crystal and
    Sterling Silver Rosary that I had made for them to raffle off. It raised
    quite a bit of money.

    That was very nice of you, I'm sure your vision and what you told her
    was a real comfort to the family.

    I did talk to Rose... but I told her it was a dream.
    In a way, it was. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    -
    and, IT'S LUNCHTIME YAAAAAYYY!!

    I just ate lunch! 1/2" thick sliced ham on boston butter leaf wrap with
    a bunch of lime mayo. ;-d
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  18. Omelet said:

    I like LZ. :-)

    mmhm, When asked if they would ever reunite (which I wouldn't wish
    that on them) Plant said there wouldn't be enough doctors to support
    it.

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