columbian imports

Well the company sent me a Xmas Card....which was kinda weird since I never gave them my name or
address and I don't celebrate Xmas. I was impressed by the Slide Show on ebay...6 slides showing a
guy riding a SWB while holding his Cellphone to his ear...what is that all about? The bent looks
heavy and 18 speed Shimano SIS???, didn't know they still made the SIS system. IF the components on
the bent were any good, buy the bent and toss the frame...but with really low end parts on a heavy
rolled steel frame and a $10.00 fork...I'd give it a miss. I did at 1st think that this would make a
good bent to introduce people to bents (being such low cost), but doing your Learning Curve from a
DF to a SWB bent on this bent (may) convince people to keep riding their DF. Re: don't ride this
bent and think a RANS SWB is the same.
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note : recommended speed limit: 25 mph Not that i've looked a a lot of bicycle sites, but i don't
recall one with a speed limit. Why, could somebody please tell me would such a limitation be
necessary? Poor braking, bad welds? Perhaps Nader should check this one out. Maybe he would
list it with the Corvair "Unsafe at any speed"

john clarke

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U think a Corvair was a bad car, one of my uncles had a Corvair and it was a great Amphibious
Vehicle, we used to go fishing in it during the summers on Lake Champlain N.Y. With Twin Props it
moved through the water at a good speed. It has been a while, but I think it was called a Corvair
Monza. It was a car that you could also drive off the road and use as a boat. Guess the dual use car
concept never lasted beyond the late 1960's.

As for the 25 mph Speed Limit question. Could be a liability issue..but I doubt it. Cold rolled
steel won't have much frame flex to it, so maybe at high speeds the frame is prone to
cracking....have no idea. Does seem like an odd thing to put in an Advert though.
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note : recommended speed limit: 25 mph Not that i've looked a a lot of bicycle sites, but i don't
recall one with

a

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speed limit. Why, could somebody please tell me would such a limitation be necessary? Poor
braking, bad welds? Perhaps Nader should check this one

out.

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Maybe he would list it with the Corvair "Unsafe at any speed"

john clarke

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Ths message was posted to this group in December:

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From: j browe ([email hidden]) Subject: columbian bent recently bought
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent Date: 2002-12-05 20:39:12 PST

I recently contacted a buyer of one of the columbian bents from evanity .com questioning him on
his experience and here is his reply:

Hi Joel, I wish I could be more positive for you but the most I can say is that the bike was very
inexpensive for a recumbent. I don't think I would buy from
e.vanity again. The bike was shipped from Bogotá Colombia about one month after the auction ended.
When it arrived the FedEx driver said it wasn't packaged very well. He marked the shipment as
damaged, but we both thought that maybe it was only the box. I hoped for the best and worked to
put the bike together over a period of about 3 days. I think there were at least 6 bent parts I
have straightened including both forks and both gear sets. Guess I should have returned it
without opening, and shipping damage isn't the fault of e.vanity, but I'm not too crazy about
the general quality, either, though I have almost no recumbent experience. This bike's brake and
shifter cables are routed down the right hand side, right past the chain. It seems like they
could rub and be damaged. I may try to change them to the left hand side away from the chain but
there are some little welded-on parts that won't work out that way. One shifter is stuck-
unusable- and seems to have been assembled that way. I haven't yet gotten one of the rear brake
pads to fit against the wheel correctly... seems like it's attachment to the rear fork is welded
a little crooked or I am not doing something right with it. Haven't gotten to the front brakes
yet. I just got disgusted when I was trying to fit the seat onto the frame. It is held on with
one 1/4" bolt underneath and 2 braces in the back. The bolts in the braces don't match and one
is missing, but, the biggest problem is that not all the holes in the frame that the 1/4" bolt
goes through are drilled squarely. I can't put the seat on in the position I need without
redrilling the holes or coming up with a different kind of attachment. Maybe I'll get over being
disgusted and try to make the best of it. Good luck and be careful, Tom

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U think a Corvair was a bad car, one of my uncles had a Corvair and it was a great Amphibious
Vehicle, we used to go fishing in it during the summers on Lake Champlain N.Y. With Twin Props it
moved through the water at a good speed. It has been a while, but I think it was called a Corvair
Monza. It was a car that you could also drive off the road and use as a boat. Guess the dual use
car concept never lasted beyond the late 1960's.

YO Josh by Gosh: I think you have your cars all messed up. I've never seen a Corvair with Twin Props
However there was a car made in the 60s that did have the twin props called Aqua Car???. A friend of
mine had a Corvair monza spider with a pancake six cyclinder that was pretty darn fast.To bad Nader
trashed the car. I liked it.

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U think a Corvair was a bad car, one of my uncles had a Corvair and it was

a

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great Amphibious Vehicle, we used to go fishing in it during the summers

on

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Lake Champlain N.Y. With Twin Props it moved through the water at a good speed. It has been a
while, but I think it was called a Corvair Monza. It was a car that you could also drive off the
road and use as a boat. Guess the dual use car concept never lasted beyond the late 1960's.

nah, it wan't a corvair- it was called amphibicar and a guy who lives on a river near here has one.
this one's white homepage.ntlworld.compage9.htmlOpen ↗ but the one near me is red. never
seen it on the water.

rich, high & dry

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It may have been a Corvair Monza that he had modified for water use. I know it was a Corvair, just
not sure on the Monza part. I looked up photos of the Corvair and it was a Corvair. The car was
white, had no rear fins, the twin props were white rubber or rubber covered, the engine was in the
rear of the car, 4 doors. My uncle was always having stuff modified...he could afford
it. He retired from business at age 49 with slightly under 100 million to live on and he moved to
the Bahamas to live aboard a 156 ft. Yacht he had custom built (which included an on-board
carport for his Jaguar XKE).
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U think a Corvair was a bad car, one of my uncles had a Corvair and it

was a

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great Amphibious Vehicle, we used to go fishing in it during the summers

on

Quoted message said:

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Lake Champlain N.Y. With Twin Props it moved through the water at a good speed. It has been a
while, but I think it was called a Corvair Monza.

It

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was a car that you could also drive off the road and use as a boat.

Guess

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the dual use car concept never lasted beyond the late 1960's.

YO Josh by Gosh: I think you have your cars all messed up. I've never seen a Corvair with Twin
Props However there was a car made in the 60s that did have the twin props called Aqua Car???. A
friend of mine had a Corvair monza spider with a pancake six cyclinder that was pretty darn
fast.To bad Nader trashed the car. I liked it.

Joshua Goldberg said:

... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as the E-Type, as XKE was never an
official designation.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

Can't hold my tongue any more...Tom, did u correct the obstetrician as your head crowned in the
birthing room? I bet you did, and have never stopped, ever since. I've never in my life experienced
anyone, anywhere with such an all consuming need to demonstrate the extent of his or her knowledge.
You've got a lot in your noggin, granted, but for just once, could you just chuckle to yourself, or
murmur under your breathe "I knew that"? Jeez...

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Joshua Goldberg said:

... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as the E-Type, as XKE was never
an official designation.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

No, baronn1, don't make him stop. I thought I was an over-correcting know-it-all before I came back
to this group some months ago, but Tom has convinced me that "Hey, I'm not so bad!" Without him for
a measuring stick, I'm going to dislike myself again 😉

baronn1 said:

Can't hold my tongue any more...Tom, did u correct the obstetrician as your head crowned in the
birthing room? I bet you did, and have never stopped, ever since. I've never in my life
experienced anyone, anywhere with such an all consuming need to demonstrate the extent of his or
her knowledge. You've got a lot in your noggin, granted, but for just once, could you just chuckle
to yourself, or murmur under your breathe "I knew that"? Jeez...

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Joshua Goldberg said:

... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as the E-Type, as XKE was never
an official designation.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

baronn1 (who?) said:

Can't hold my tongue any more...Tom, did u correct the obstetrician as your head crowned in the
birthing room? I bet you did, and have never stopped, ever since. I've never in my life
experienced anyone, anywhere with such an all consuming need to demonstrate the extent of his or
her knowledge. You've got a lot in your noggin, granted, but for just once, could you just chuckle
to yourself, or murmur under your breathe "I knew that"? Jeez...

You must not spend much time around engineers - insisting in correctness in details is a common
personality trait.

"Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig... You soon find out the pig likes
it!" - Unknown

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

Well, Tom, I've worked for 20 years in the computer industry. Spent a lot of that time writing code,
or providing precise information back to sustaining engineering groups to help them solve esoteric,
seldom encountered issues with various platforms. So, I know a little about being precise. But, you
miss the point entirely... When painstaking attentionto detal is called for, it's called for. When
it's not, it obnoxious.

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baronn1 (who?) said:

Can't hold my tongue any more...Tom, did u correct the obstetrician as

your

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head crowned in the birthing room? I bet you did, and have never

stopped,

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ever since. I've never in my life experienced anyone, anywhere with

such an

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Quoted message said:

all consuming need to demonstrate the extent of his or her knowledge. You've got a lot in your
noggin, granted, but for just once, could you

just

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chuckle to yourself, or murmur under your breathe "I knew that"? Jeez...

You must not spend much time around engineers - insisting in correctness in details is a common
personality trait.

"Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig... You soon find out the pig likes it!"
- Unknown

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer

Tell it to Jan and Dean:

lyricsdomain.com5584Open ↗

John Riley

Tom Sherman said:

Joshua Goldberg said:

... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as the E-Type, as XKE was never
an official designation.

I did some looking around. It looks to me like XK-E is acceptable. But Jag model designations are
pure Monty Python:

coventrywest.comtipofmonth9.htmOpen ↗

(Obvioously there is a typo in the Jan and Dean link. No one, including Jan and Dean, ever called a
Sting Ray a Sting-Ren.)

John Riley

John Riley said:

Tell it to Jan and Dean:

lyricsdomain.com5584Open ↗

John Riley

Tom Sherman said:

Joshua Goldberg said:

... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as the E-Type, as XKE was
never an official designation.

What I liked about the song was the line when the guy asks the ONLY important question on his
mind....Hey Doc, hows my vette?
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I did some looking around. It looks to me like XK-E is acceptable. But Jag model designations are
pure Monty Python:

coventrywest.comtipofmonth9.htmOpen ↗

(Obvioously there is a typo in the Jan and Dean link. No one, including Jan and Dean, ever called
a Sting Ray a Sting-Ren.)

John Riley

John Riley said:

Tell it to Jan and Dean:

lyricsdomain.com5584Open ↗

John Riley

Tom Sherman said:

Joshua Goldberg wrote:
>
> ... (which included an on-board carport for his Jaguar XKE).

I feel obliged to point out that the car is correctly referred to as

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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E-Type, as XKE was never an official designation.

Isn't the country Colombia? John Riley <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ths message was posted to this group in December:

Quoted message said:

From: j browe ([email hidden]) Subject: columbian bent recently bought
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent Date: 2002-12-05 20:39:12 PST

I recently contacted a buyer of one of the columbian bents from evanity .com questioning him on
his experience and here is his reply:

Hi Joel, I wish I could be more positive for you but the most I can say is that the bike was
very inexpensive for a recumbent. I don't think I would buy from
e.vanity again. The bike was shipped from Bogotá Colombia about one month after the auction
ended. When it arrived the FedEx driver said it wasn't packaged very well. He marked the
shipment as damaged, but we both thought that maybe it was only the box. I hoped for the best
and worked to put the bike together over a period of about 3 days. I think there were at least
6 bent parts I have straightened including both forks and both gear sets. Guess I should have
returned it without opening, and shipping damage isn't the fault of e.vanity, but I'm not too
crazy about the general quality, either, though I have almost no recumbent experience. This
bike's brake and shifter cables are routed down the right hand side, right past the chain. It
seems like they could rub and be damaged. I may try to change them to the left hand side away
from the chain but there are some little welded-on parts that won't work out that way. One
shifter is stuck- unusable- and seems to have been assembled that way. I haven't yet gotten
one of the rear brake pads to fit against the wheel correctly... seems like it's attachment to
the rear fork is welded a little crooked or I am not doing something right with it. Haven't
gotten to the front brakes yet. I just got disgusted when I was trying to fit the seat onto
the frame. It is held on with one 1/4" bolt underneath and 2 braces in the back. The bolts in
the braces don't match and one is missing, but, the biggest problem is that not all the holes
in the frame that the 1/4" bolt goes through are drilled squarely. I can't put the seat on in
the position I need without redrilling the holes or coming up with a different kind of
attachment. Maybe I'll get over being disgusted and try to make the best of it. Good luck and
be careful, Tom

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U think a Corvair was a bad car, one of my uncles had a Corvair and it was a great Amphibious
Vehicle, we used to go fishing in it during the summers on Lake Champlain N.Y. With Twin Props it
moved through the water at a good speed. It has been a while, but I think it was called a Corvair
Monza. It was a car that you could also drive off the road and use as a boat. Guess the dual use
car concept never lasted beyond the late 1960's.

Your uncles "Corvair" was an Amphicar, a German import from the
60's they were quite seaworthy and in fact one crossed the English
Channel in a publicity stunt. They both did have rear engines though.

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As for the 25 mph Speed Limit question. Could be a liability issue..but I doubt it. Cold rolled
steel won't have much frame flex to it, so maybe at high speeds the frame is prone to
cracking....have no idea. Does seem like an odd thing to put in an Advert though.
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note : recommended speed limit: 25 mph Not that i've looked a a lot of bicycle sites, but i
don't recall one with

a

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speed limit. Why, could somebody please tell me would such a limitation be necessary? Poor
braking, bad welds? Perhaps Nader should check this one

out.

Quoted message said:

Maybe he would list it with the Corvair "Unsafe at any speed"

john clarke

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harv said:

Isn't the country Colombia?

Yes, but SHHH they're on a roll.