RR: Psychocross

JD said:

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

JD

The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

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G.T. said:

JD said:

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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JD

The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

Until a piece of gravel decided my rear tire was too skinny.

Quoted message said:

And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

Greg

I guess the narrow bars make is easier to do tricks & [censored] like that.
I'll never do them because I'm not about tricks on skinny tires, but
am about the speed.

JD

JD said:

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JD

Woweezowee

Looks like you've really gotten "serious" about riding in the dirt
That is a chapter straight out of your "bible"
http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Serious+Mountain+Biking&vendorCode=BOOK&major=3&minor=1

Jimbo(san)

Jimbo(san) said:

JD said:

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JD

Woweezowee

Looks like you've really gotten "serious" about riding in the dirt
That is a chapter straight out of your "bible"http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Serious+Mountai...

Jimbo(san)

My God! A book like that actually exists? Ann Trombley ought to be
ashamed of herself.

JD

JD said:

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JD

Kewel.

Matt

G.T. said:

JD said:

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

Quoted message said:

JD

The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

Greg

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Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

/s

Scott Gordo said:

G.T. said:

JD said:

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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Quoted message said:

JD

Quoted message said:

The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

Quoted message said:

And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

Quoted message said:

Greg

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Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

The OEM bars on my SLT are pretty narrow, which is great for splitting
traffic.

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Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

That hill was about as technical as anything liberace could handle. I
was easily doing 35 by the bottom and wasn't sketched out at all.

Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear or
carry a helmet all of the way down to Costa Mesa and had no idea the
race was going to be in the dirt. Even so, I've been on paved streets
rougher than the dirt portion of that course.

JD

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Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear ... a
helmet

Ah, so you used your brain to determine that you can't save it with a
pitiful piece of styrofoam and plastic.

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Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear ...
a helmet

Ah, so you used your brain to determine that you can't save it with a
pitiful piece of styrofoam and plastic.

Nice editing! LOL

JD said:

Scott Gordo said:

On Jul 21, 2:03 pm, "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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JD wrote:
>http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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> JD

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The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

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Greg

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Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

The OEM bars on my SLT are pretty narrow, which is great for splitting
traffic.

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Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

That hill was about as technical as anything liberace could handle. I
was easily doing 35 by the bottom and wasn't sketched out at all.

Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear or
carry a helmet all of the way down to Costa Mesa and had no idea the
race was going to be in the dirt. Even so, I've been on paved streets
rougher than the dirt portion of that course.

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

/s

JD said:

http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

JD

[censored] KING J.D. is a [censored] KING who cannot ride worth a damn because
he's a [censored]!

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

I do believe the no-brakes thing is very, very foolish.

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Scott Gordo said:

JD said:

On Jul 23, 10:50 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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On Jul 21, 2:03 pm, "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> JD wrote:
> >http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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> > JD

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> The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

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> And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
> especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
> the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

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> Greg

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Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

Quoted message said:

The OEM bars on my SLT are pretty narrow, which is great for splitting
traffic.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

Quoted message said:

That hill was about as technical as anything liberace could handle. I
was easily doing 35 by the bottom and wasn't sketched out at all.

Quoted message said:

Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear or
carry a helmet all of the way down to Costa Mesa and had no idea the
race was going to be in the dirt. Even so, I've been on paved streets
rougher than the dirt portion of that course.

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

/s

I have a lot of confidence in my bicycle handling skills, thank you.

JD

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Scott Gordo said:

As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

I have a lot of confidence in my bicycle handling skills, thank you.

And I sure as hell witnessed them put to good use due to a ignorider on a
Midnight Ridazz ride awhile back.

But I'm still concerned about the lack of emergency stopability for you
brakeless guys.

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On Jul 24, 8:16 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

Quoted message said:

I have a lot of confidence in my bicycle handling skills, thank you.

And I sure as hell witnessed them put to good use due to a ignorider on a
Midnight Ridazz ride awhile back.

But I'm still concerned about the lack of emergency stopability for you
brakeless guys.

No worries, man. You'd be surprised how quickly I can get that bike
wound down while evading.

JD

JD said:

Scott Gordo said:

On Jul 23, 7:56 pm, JD <[email hidden]> wrote:

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On Jul 23, 10:50 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> On Jul 21, 2:03 pm, "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > JD wrote:
> > >http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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> > > JD

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> > The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

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> > And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
> > especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
> > the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

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> > Greg

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> Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
> riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
> clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
> are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

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The OEM bars on my SLT are pretty narrow, which is great for splitting
traffic.

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> Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
> fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

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That hill was about as technical as anything liberace could handle. I
was easily doing 35 by the bottom and wasn't sketched out at all.

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Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear or
carry a helmet all of the way down to Costa Mesa and had no idea the
race was going to be in the dirt. Even so, I've been on paved streets
rougher than the dirt portion of that course.

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

Quoted message said:

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

Quoted message said:

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

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/s

I have a lot of confidence in my bicycle handling skills, thank you.

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Me too. In fact, I'll bet that your trail riding handling skills are
superior to just about anyone else's in that pack. But that's just the
point. In a pack, the chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Just stay in front is all I'm saying. The view is better anyway.

Okay, enough finger-wagging "Wear your helmet" grandma posts from me
for one week. My riding friends would laugh if they were reading this
kind of hypocrisy coming from me.

/s

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JD said:

On Jul 24, 8:16 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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On Jul 23, 7:56 pm, JD <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> On Jul 23, 10:50 am, Scott Gordo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > On Jul 21, 2:03 pm, "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > > JD wrote:
> > > >http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6057

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> > > The Freak at the front of the pack, nice.

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> > > And echoing the Dean Machine on the forum, I don't get the narrow bars,
> > > especially behind the Orange Curtain where the streets are wide and the
> > > the people tow the line. Narrow bars = fashion statement?

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> > Haven't read the forum, but I think narrow bars are typically for
> > riding in urban areas where you have a greater chance of a car
> > clipping your bars. I'm not one of it's adherents, though my drop bars
> > are well skinnier than, say, my mtb's bars.

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> The OEM bars on my SLT are pretty narrow, which is great for splitting
> traffic.

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> > Now, I'd say that the no-helmet thing in a fixie pack ride is a
> > fashion statement. Especially on dirt. Crazy kids.

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> That hill was about as technical as anything liberace could handle. I
> was easily doing 35 by the bottom and wasn't sketched out at all.

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> Fashion? Maybe for some of them. For me, I didn't want to wear or
> carry a helmet all of the way down to Costa Mesa and had no idea the
> race was going to be in the dirt. Even so, I've been on paved streets
> rougher than the dirt portion of that course.

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As long as you stay in front and the person riding a fixie in front of
you knows how to handle dirt. Pack riding has a lot of dangers that
single riding doesn't. We used to do a series of fixie races in a 3.5
mile loop near my apt that ended when somebody flatted and caused a
pileup when the riders behind couldn't stop in time. A few collarbones
later and that series was history, and thankfully without a lawsuit.
(And if you think that your friends are too cool to sue, just wait
until they get hospital bills.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know I'm coming off preachy, obvious, and maybe even paranoid. Call
me a nagging mother, callo me vain, but even if the few ounces of foam
strapped to my head does little more than save my scalp from some road
rash, that's not nothing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And don't worry, I'm aware that a deep sea diver's suit would offer
even more protection.

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/s

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I have a lot of confidence in my bicycle handling skills, thank you.

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Me too. In fact, I'll bet that your trail riding handling skills are
superior to just about anyone else's in that pack. But that's just the
point. In a pack, the chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

True, which is why if you follow the orange shirt in the sequence down
the hill you may notice how it avoids being directly behind anyone and
moves rapidly to the front.

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Just stay in front is all I'm saying. The view is better anyway.

I usually give a very wide berth with people I don't know when riding
without brakes.

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Okay, enough finger-wagging "Wear your helmet" grandma posts from me
for one week. My riding friends would laugh if they were reading this
kind of hypocrisy coming from me.

I bet that's true.

JD