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  1. Evans's legs seem to be in very good shape. In the past we have seen him
    attempt to gain time with moves and then end up getting dropped and losing
    time at the finish of some of the key stages. This time he was strong at
    the finish and moved up into 4th, but he did it the hard way.

    Though I wasn't sure what Evan's was trying to do sprinting after Contador,
    not really his game to try and out sprint a climber. And as Contador is an
    outside contender for the GC even if he got a minute or so over the top and
    linked up with Popovych the pack would be forced to chase them down when
    conditions favoured them on the way into Briacon, as happened.

    The move left Evans in no-mans-land and realising that there were better
    places to time trial he had to sit up and go back. After that he got
    dropped from the leading chasers and had to work and had to struggle back
    to catch up once they slowed before the final climb. Then Evans worked hard
    up the final hill only to see Valverde ride past and take a time bonus to
    move into second.

    As time trialling and the steeper climbs of Pyrenees are Evans's strengths
    the tactical battle was won by Valverde. Still Evans has shown he is in
    great form and a good chance.

    dewatf.

  2. dewatf said:

    Evans's legs seem to be in very good shape. In the past we have seen him
    attempt to gain time with moves and then end up getting dropped and losing
    time at the finish of some of the key stages. This time he was strong at
    the finish and moved up into 4th, but he did it the hard way.

    Though I wasn't sure what Evan's was trying to do sprinting after Contador,
    not really his game to try and out sprint a climber.

    Huh? He wasn't trying to out-sprint Contador, but hook up with him and drop
    his group. He wasn't strong enough on the steepest part of the climb, but
    good on him for trying. Maybe you didn't notice, but Contador wanted his
    help, and waited until it was clear that Evans was too tired before
    taking off again.

  3. quote='Michael Warner'On Wed said:

    Evans's legs seem to be in very good shape. In the past we have seen him
    attempt to gain time with moves and then end up getting dropped and losing
    time at the finish of some of the key stages. This time he was strong at
    the finish and moved up into 4th, but he did it the hard way.

    Though I wasn't sure what Evan's was trying to do sprinting after Contador,
    not really his game to try and out sprint a climber.

    Huh? He wasn't trying to out-sprint Contador, but hook up with him and drop
    his group. He wasn't strong enough on the steepest part of the climb, but
    good on him for trying. Maybe you didn't notice, but Contador wanted his
    help, and waited until it was clear that Evans was too tired before
    taking off again.[/QUOTE]

    I think Cadel's effort to bridge the gap to Contador was pretty impressive but I think he did it too fast, red-lined it and never recovered - hence his inability to work with him when Contador started forcing the issue.

  4. jazmo said:
    Quoted message said:

    Huh? He wasn't trying to out-sprint Contador, but hook up with him and
    drop
    his group. He wasn't strong enough on the steepest part of the climb,
    but
    good on him for trying. Maybe you didn't notice, but Contador wanted
    his
    help, and waited until it was clear that Evans was too tired before
    taking off again.

    I think Cadel's effort to bridge the gap to Contador was pretty
    impressive but I think he did it too fast, red-lined it and never
    recovered - hence his inability to work with him when Contador started
    forcing the issue.

    Yep. That's what it looked like.

    At the end of the day Evans's effort, however impressive, expended a lot of
    energy, went nowhere, got him dropped later and left him scrambling back.
    Valverde's tactics were the winning ones.

    I just think that Evans need to get such things right more than he has done
    in the past to win. And after the excellent time trial last night Evans is
    a chance. Though with Contador being able to time-trial well as well a
    climb, Rassumen able to limit his losses to under 2 minutes, Vinokouov
    winning despite being out when the course was wetter and what ever else
    pops up it looks like being an excellent race. I am looking forward to
    tonight.

    dewatf.

  5. On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:12:34 GMT, dewatf wrote:

    Well that is what I was talking about.

    Leipheimer gained 1'14'' and Sastre 1' on Evans; Evans wrecked himself and
    lost more time to Rassmussen and Costador and finished with Kloden who was
    dropped halfway up the climb.

    dewatf.

  6. dewatf said:

    On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:12:34 GMT, dewatf wrote:

    Well that is what I was talking about.

    Leipheimer gained 1'14'' and Sastre 1' on Evans; Evans wrecked himself and
    lost more time to Rassmussen and Costador and finished with Kloden who was
    dropped halfway up the climb.

    dewatf.

    Tomorrow's another big day. We'll soon find out who's suffering.

    Dorfus

  7. Actually I don't think he is done at all, I think he knows where he is going to win the race, if he is going to win it, I think he is just trying to minimize the amount of times in loses on these tough stages and not destroying himself for the Time Trial and race to Paris

    But we will soon find out..... especially how much it took out of chicken man doing all that work today in the final stages...

  8. Cadel's cough is sounds great at the end of every stage also .. tho no-one else seems to have mentioned it ..

    Ash

  9. a5hi5m said:

    Cadel's cough is sounds great at the end of every stage also .. tho
    no-one else seems to have mentioned it ..

    Ash

    We call it a Time Trialers cough, but you can get it from a hard ride.

    Dorfus

  10. MikeyOz said:

    Actually I don't think he is done at all, I think he knows where he is going to win the race, if he is going to win it, I think he is just trying to minimize the amount of times in loses on these tough stages and not destroying himself for the Time Trial and race to Paris

    But we will soon find out..... especially how much it took out of chicken man doing all that work today in the final stages...

    Cadel is done. If you watched the stage you would have seen he would have followed if he could have. He was pedalling like a busted man. Tonight is another tough one. Unless Chicken man has a bad day I can see him put more time into Evans again tonight - and then it will be too much to make up in the final time trial. Evan's quote was that this was the first stage that didn't go according to plan.

  11. On 2007-07-23, a5hi5m (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:


    Cadel's cough is sounds great at the end of every stage also .. tho
    no-one else seems to have mentioned it ..

    Yeahbut chicken's cough wasn't too great either. Too much exertion.
    And the droogs probably don't help 🙂

    --
    TimC
    I don't know, but every time I look at a modern Intel schematic I think of a
    steam engine running REALLY fast. -- gcash in ASR on 68K vs 8086

  12. On Jul 23, 9:22 am, MikeyOz <MikeyOz.2u5...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    Actually I don't think he is done at all, I think he knows where he is
    going to win the race, if he is going to win it, I think he is just
    trying to minimize the amount of times in loses on these tough stages
    and not destroying himself for the Time Trial and race to Paris

    But we will soon find out..... especially how much it took out of
    chicken man doing all that work today in the final stages...

    Cadel's only chance now is if Rasmussen has a bad day and so does
    Contador. The gap is too big now given Rasmussen's newly found ITT
    ability. Otherwise, Cadel's racing for 3rd place. It's still
    amazingly good to do that well, to put it in perspective.

  13. Bleve said:

    On Jul 23, 9:22 am, MikeyOz <MikeyOz.2u5...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    Actually I don't think he is done at all, I think he knows where he is
    going to win the race, if he is going to win it, I think he is just
    trying to minimize the amount of times in loses on these tough stages
    and not destroying himself for the Time Trial and race to Paris

    Yes he could have a few beers and come back and blitz the whole field the
    next day, oh wait you can't get away with taking drugs anymore

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But we will soon find out..... especially how much it took out of
    chicken man doing all that work today in the final stages...

    Cadel's only chance now is if Rasmussen has a bad day and so does
    Contador. The gap is too big now given Rasmussen's newly found ITT
    ability. Otherwise, Cadel's racing for 3rd place. It's still
    amazingly good to do that well, to put it in perspective.

    If Rassmussen and Contador don't have a bad day then he had no chance. Now
    he may not be in shape to take advantage of it if they do have such a day.
    Rassmussen has to defend the yellow and keep an eye on the polka dots.
    Contador may have gone all out to win the Plateau de Beille and might fade.

    I just think Evans would have done better to avoid all the accelerations of
    the climbers on the first mountain top finish in the Pyrenees and try to
    keep a steady pace with Leipheimer and Sastra. Today, Wednesday and the TT
    would be better stages to go all out and have a crack if needed.

    That would have put Evens in with an excellent chance of 3rd and ability to
    do better is the opportunity arises. He may struggle to make the podium
    now, which would have been terrific.

    dewatf.

  14. Cadel just needs to speak to Landis and ask him about what he had for dinner before stage 17 last year. C'arn Cadel!!!

    hippy

  15. hippy said:

    Cadel just needs to speak to Landis and ask him about what he had for dinner before stage 17 last year. C'arn Cadel!!!

    hippy

    Or Vino after his big bounce back.

  16. mitosis said:
    hippy said:

    Cadel just needs to speak to Landis and ask him about what he had for
    dinner before stage 17 last year. C'arn Cadel!!!

    hippy

    Or Vino after his big bounce back.

    Bounce out more like it!

    Dorfus

  17. Dorfus Dippintush said:


    Bounce out more like it!
    Dorfus

    I wonder if Cadel has an effort like that in him ??

  18. On Jul 25, 9:28 am, MikeyOz <MikeyOz.2u9...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:
    Dorfus Dippintush said:

    Bounce out more like it!
    Dorfus

    I wonder if Cadel has an effort like that in him ??

    --
    MikeyOz

    It'll be particularly interesting and unfortunate if he turns out to
    be the only clean rider in the top 3. Rasmussen missing tests and not
    informing his national body as to where he was (every pro knows they
    need to do this), and Contador showing some amazing form for such a
    young rider. Cadel's the only one in the top 3 who hasn't been riding
    way above what anyone would expect from past form.

  19. Bleve said:

    On Jul 25, 9:28 am, MikeyOz <MikeyOz.2u9...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:
    Dorfus Dippintush said:

    Bounce out more like it!
    Dorfus

    I wonder if Cadel has an effort like that in him ??

    --
    MikeyOz

    It'll be particularly interesting and unfortunate if he turns out to
    be the only clean rider in the top 3. Rasmussen missing tests and not
    informing his national body as to where he was (every pro knows they
    need to do this), and Contador showing some amazing form for such a
    young rider. Cadel's the only one in the top 3 who hasn't been riding
    way above what anyone would expect from past form.


    surely a reputable and scupulus manager such as manolo saiz wouldn't let contador become involved at such things when he was at liberty!

    Ash

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