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  1. Hi all,

    Last April I bought a ClaudeButler Classic 2006, and since then I've
    been riding it every day, to/from work and shopping. About two months
    ago a colleague that was riding next to me just crashed into my bike
    and my gear changer (is this how it is called? the gear thingy on the
    back?) went nuts. I went back to Active Bikes (where I bought it),
    paid 10£ and the guy fixed the thing, which he said was not correctly
    positioned due to the crash.

    Today, my chain broke. Now, I want to believe that this was not human
    hand, so there are a couple of things I might imagine like never
    having put any oil on it, and due to getting rain and dry throughout
    these last months the chain got dry and broke. In fact, it was just
    one of the chain links that opened up and the whole chain fell down.
    Now, should I take it back to Active Bikes or can I just fix it
    myself. By looking online (http://www.ehow.com/how_2099_replace-bike-
    chain.html), it doesn't seem to be much effort to remove the chain
    link and join the two ends together. (Can I do this?) But I'll
    probably need a chain tool, to put the two chain links together. Where
    can I buy one? More over, since my bike sometimes gets rain and wet
    and then dries up I should get some kind of oil for the current and
    some special spray to lubrificate the whole bike, what should I get?

    Regards,

    Paulo Matos

  2. Paulo Matos said:

    chain.html), it doesn't seem to be much effort to remove the chain
    link and join the two ends together. (Can I do this?) But I'll
    probably need a chain tool, to put the two chain links together. Where
    can I buy one? More over, since my bike sometimes gets rain and wet
    and then dries up I should get some kind of oil for the current and
    some special spray to lubrificate the whole bike, what should I get?

    What I would do is
    (a) Get a chain tool. If poss from a good LBS and get them to show you how to use it,
    although you can work it out if you have some pictures or a leaflet to follow.
    (b) Try sticking the chain back together (discarding the broken bit) and see if it is
    still long enough.
    (c) Carry the chain tool with you for a while in case of emergencies.

    The /easy/ way is to get a new chain, but a new chain on old cogs /may/ slip. (Unlikely at
    18 months old.) Once again your LBS could be your friend and fit the thing for you.

    Many people leave chains until they start to squeak. DO NOT use 3-in-1 oil etc.
    However the rear mechanism (and cables) could do with periodic lubrication regardless.
    Some people swear by the general purpose (for bikes) aerosol type which squirts into small
    spaces but needs fairly frequent application. (Ideal for a 1-minute spruce-up for
    infrequently used bikes.)

    --
    Peter Fox
    Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk

  3. Peter Fox said the following on 20/07/2007 10:58:

    Quoted message said:

    Many people leave chains until they start to squeak.

    Many people seem to think chains are *supposed* to squeak :-)

    Quoted message said:

    However the rear mechanism (and cables) could do with periodic
    lubrication regardless. Some people swear by the general purpose (for
    bikes) aerosol type which squirts into small spaces but needs fairly
    frequent application.

    Er, how frequent is frequent? On my daily use all-weather commuter, I
    sprayed some GT85 around the mechs and cables only last weekend. I do
    this regularly - at least once every year, whether it needs it or not
    :-) The chain does get a bit more TLC mind!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. "Peter Fox" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Many people leave chains until they start to squeak. DO NOT use 3-in-1
    oil etc.

    Overstating things a bit. 3-in-1 works ok. Possibly not as good as more
    specific chain lubricants, but it does work. Now WD40 on the other hand...

    cheers,
    clive

  5. Now, should I take it back to Active Bikes or can I just fix it
    myself.

    It's a bit of a fiddle, but pretty easy to do it yourself, using one of
    these:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bicycle-Chain-Link-Rivet-Extractor-Chaintool_W0QQitemZ160138587584QQihZ006QQcategoryZ109122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    More over, since my bike sometimes gets rain and wet
    and then dries up I should get some kind of oil for the current and
    some special spray to lubrificate the whole bike, what should I get?

    This stuff is brilliant:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Prolink-Gold-Cycle-Lubricant-buy-one-get-one-FREE_W0QQitemZ170131767645QQihZ007QQcategoryZ123475QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    (This price is really good too - I paid a fiver for one, from wiggle...and
    even then it was a bargin at the price. You'll be amazed what a difference
    it makes.)

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Paulo

    Matos (') said:

    Hi all,

    Last April I bought a ClaudeButler Classic 2006, and since then I've
    been riding it every day, to/from work and shopping. About two months
    ago a colleague that was riding next to me just crashed into my bike
    and my gear changer (is this how it is called? the gear thingy on the
    back?)

    'derailleur' or 'rear mech'. The precise alignment of it is quite critical
    to good gear shifting so if...

    Quoted message said:

    went nuts. I went back to Active Bikes (where I bought it),
    paid 10£ and the guy fixed the thing, which he said was not correctly
    positioned due to the crash.

    .... it's bent out of line you're quite likely to have persistent gear
    changing problems. On most modern frames the derailleur is mounted on a
    small sacrificial bracket called a 'mech hanger', which prevents the frame
    from getting damaged when the derailleur is hit. These are normally not
    expensive. I'm not certain that the Claud Butler Classic has one, but I'd
    be surprised if it doesn't.

    Quoted message said:

    Today, my chain broke. Now, I want to believe that this was not human
    hand, so there are a couple of things I might imagine like never
    having put any oil on it, and due to getting rain and dry throughout
    these last months the chain got dry and broke. In fact, it was just
    one of the chain links that opened up and the whole chain fell down.
    Now, should I take it back to Active Bikes or can I just fix it
    myself.

    Right. If you've got a chain that's been in use and not maintained for a
    year, it almost certainly needs to be replaced. The question is whether
    the whole transmission needs to be replaced - hope not, because that gets
    expensive.

    I'd recommend getting a SRAM PC58 chain with a 'powerlink' magic connecting
    link, as these are easier to fit and to maintain than generic or Shimano
    chains. Tell the shop you want the powerlink - some shops sell SRAM chains
    without, slightly cheaper; but the powerlink is a really good idea.

    Quoted message said:

    By looking online (http://www.ehow.com/how_2099_replace-bike-
    chain.html), it doesn't seem to be much effort to remove the chain
    link and join the two ends together. (Can I do this?) But I'll
    probably need a chain tool, to put the two chain links together. Where
    can I buy one?

    You can get a chaintool at any bike shop, and for seven and eight speed
    chains they're not expensive. However, if you've been riding more than a
    year without lubricating the chain, it is not worth repairing. Worn out
    chains cause damage to the teeth of the cogs and chainwheels, and this can
    get very expensive.

    For instruction on how to maintain chains, see this page:
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

    but the key think is that it is important only to lubricate a chain when it
    is clean, as lubricating a dirty chain will help the dirt to get inside
    the rollers where is can do damage. Lubricant on the outside of a chain
    does no good - it only attracts dirt. So after you've lubricated it clean
    all excess lubricant off the outside.

    Finish Line Cross Country is a very effective all weather chain lubricant.
    If your bike is only used in the dry White Lightning (wax emulsion) is
    extremely effective and clean to use but it doesn't stand up to rain.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat.

  7. spokes said the following on 20/07/2007 16:46:

    Quoted message said:

    Prolink-Gold-Cycle-Lubricant

    Quoted message said:

    (This price is really good too - I paid a fiver for one, from wiggle...and
    even then it was a bargin at the price. You'll be amazed what a difference
    it makes.)

    Bugger - too late! And yes, it is brilliant. Even at a fiver a bottle
    it's good value because it goes a long way.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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