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  1. I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  2. <Koko> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    I don't really understand the problem. Why not just chop it up?

  3. Koko said:

    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roasthttp://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slicehttp://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    Exactly!

    Quoted message said:

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Looks wonderful to me. Separate the two different muscles and then
    slice each across the grain into chunks.

    Sheldon

  4. Koko said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko

    I have no idea. Wish you'd posted a link to Dimitri's recipe.

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  5. Koko wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    I didn't realise you guys had sooooooo many cuts of meat!! You
    complicate things!!

    The 'cross rib' means it's been cut *across* the ribs, rather than down
    the ribs.

    http://www.mealsforyou.com/cgi-bin/customize?meatcutsbeef.html

    http://www.hormel.com/templates/knowledge/knowledge.asp?catitemid=22&id=
    339

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia

    ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer
    gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk,
    blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken
    bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-
    pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das
    blinkenlichten

  6. "Koko" wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko
    ---

    I don't get what the problem is. If you're going to cube it the grain
    doesn't matter. In some cubes it'll be side to side and some it'll be top
    to bottom. Turn the wrong ones over and they'll all match.

    Ms P

  7. Sheldon said:
    Koko said:

    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef

    snippage

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.


    Quoted message said:

    Exactly!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Looks wonderful to me. Separate the two different muscles and then
    slice each across the grain into chunks.

    Sheldon

    Thank you, that's what I thought but wasn't sure.

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  8. On Mon, 14 May 2007 22:16:29 -0400, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    <Koko> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    I don't really understand the problem. Why not just chop it up?


    In order to chop it up I had to slice it up first. That's when I saw
    the grain ran in two different directions.
    I've been taught that if you slice the meat with the grain rather than
    against it, the meat will be tough. I was trying to avoid tough meat
    in the chili.

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  9. sf said:
    Koko said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko

    I have no idea. Wish you'd posted a link to Dimitri's recipe.

    I wasn't having a problem with the recipe itself. I just didn't want
    the meat going into it to be tough by slicing the meat with the grain.
    That's why I thought about separating the two pieces of the roast and
    dealing with them separately.
    I was thinking I might have bought the wrong cut of meat to begin
    with.

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  10. PeterL said:

    Koko wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    I didn't realise you guys had sooooooo many cuts of meat!! You
    complicate things!!

    Tell me about it. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    The 'cross rib' means it's been cut *across* the ribs, rather than down
    the ribs.

    http://www.mealsforyou.com/cgi-bin/customize?meatcutsbeef.html

    http://www.hormel.com/templates/knowledge/knowledge.asp?catitemid=22&id=
    339

    Thank you for the links.

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  11. On Mon, 14 May 2007 22:35:29 -0500, "Ms P" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Koko" wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef

    snippage

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko
    ---

    I don't get what the problem is. If you're going to cube it the grain
    doesn't matter. In some cubes it'll be side to side and some it'll be top
    to bottom. Turn the wrong ones over and they'll all match.

    Ms P

    Thank you.

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  12. Thank all of you for helping me in a minutes notice. You guys are the
    best.

    I ended up cutting the roast in half and dealing with each piece
    separately. I now have nice tender chunks of meat simmering away in a
    beautiful pot of chili.

    http://i4.tinypic.com/6b2p4w3.jpg

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  13. Koko said:
    sf said:
    Koko said:


    I'm making the Chasen's Chili recipe Dimitri posted. It calls for beef
    chuck.
    I bought a beef chuck cross rib roast boneless.
    This is what I got when I sliced into it to coarsely chop it for the
    recipe.

    If I'm seeing right, the grain is running opposite of each other. Is
    this a_du-uh!_that's what cross rib means?

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    Koko

    I have no idea. Wish you'd posted a link to Dimitri's recipe.

    I wasn't having a problem with the recipe itself. I just didn't want
    the meat going into it to be tough by slicing the meat with the grain.
    That's why I thought about separating the two pieces of the roast and
    dealing with them separately.
    I was thinking I might have bought the wrong cut of meat to begin
    with.


    I didn't think you had a problem with the recipe, I just needed a link
    to see it so I could make a cogent comment regarding your post. Guess
    you cooked it by this time anyway, so how did it turn out?

    --
    See return address to reply by email

  14. <Koko> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    In order to chop it up I had to slice it up first. That's when I saw
    the grain ran in two different directions.
    I've been taught that if you slice the meat with the grain rather than
    against it, the meat will be tough. I was trying to avoid tough meat
    in the chili.

    Ahhh, I see. I had never heard that. When I have used whole beef in
    chili I braised it and added it after it fell apart. Probably not the best
    way. Let us know how the dish turns out!

  15. Koko said:

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    Great looking chunk of chuck! I know you already have the process underway
    ... since you are cubing it the grain will be correct regardless. It is not
    that important in this case anyway. I usually grind it because it is
    easier for the quantity I usually make, but cube is a nice way to go for
    chili. The pot of meat looks good. What chili/chile powder did you use?
    You do good work Koko.

    jay

  16. Koko said:

    I rarely cook roasts so I'm perplexed.
    I'm making it tonight so I'm going to cut the roast in half along were
    the grains run opposite each other and deal with them separately.

    *This* is a Chuck Roast:
    http://i1.tinypic.com/63rqxqb.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    What do you think? Did I buy the wrong thing to begin with? YIKES!!

    If you're going to cube or chop it, it doesn't matter which way
    the grain runs. But yes, it's a chuck roast.

    -sw

  17. sf said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I have no idea. Wish you'd posted a link to Dimitri's recipe.

    I wasn't having a problem with the recipe itself. I just didn't want
    the meat going into it to be tough by slicing the meat with the grain.
    That's why I thought about separating the two pieces of the roast and
    dealing with them separately.
    I was thinking I might have bought the wrong cut of meat to begin
    with.


    I didn't think you had a problem with the recipe, I just needed a link
    to see it so I could make a cogent comment regarding your post. Guess
    you cooked it by this time anyway, so how did it turn out?

    My misunderstanding sf. Here is the recipe

    I added three chipotle peppers in adobo sauce, minus the seeds and
    added about a tablespoon of the adobo sauce.
    That gave it the "kick" it needed. I'll check it tomorrow and adjust
    the spices if needed.

    @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

    Chasen's Chili

    soup/stew

    1/2 pound dried pinto beans
    water
    1 (28-ounce) can diced tomatoes in juice
    1 large green bell pepper, chopped
    2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    3 cups onions, coarsely chopped
    2 cloves garlic, crushed
    1/2 cup parsley, chopped
    1/2 cup butter
    2 pounds beef chuck, coarsely chopped
    1 pound pork shoulder, coarsely chopped
    1/3 cup gebhardt's brand chili powder
    1 tablespoon salt
    1 1/2 teaspoons black pepper
    1 1/2 teaspoons ground cumin

    Rinse the beans, picking out the debris. Place beans in a Dutch oven
    with water to cover. Boil for 2 minutes. Remove from heat. Cover and
    let stand one hour. Drain off liquid.
    Rinse beans again. Add enough fresh water to cover beans. Bring
    mixture to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer, covered for one hour or
    until tender.
    Stir in tomatoes and their juice. Simmer 5 minutes. In a large skillet
    sauté bell pepper in oil for 5 minutes. Add onion and cook until
    tender, stirring frequently. Stir in the garlic and parsley. Add
    mixture to bean mixture. Using the same skillet melt the butter and
    sauté beef and pork chuck until browned.
    Drain. Add to bean mixture along with the chili powder, salt, pepper,
    and cumin. Bring mixture to a boil. Reduce heat. Simmer, covered for
    one hour.
    Uncover and cook 30 minutes more or to desired consistency. Chili
    shouldn't be too thick--it should be somewhat liquid but not runny
    like soup. Skim off excess fat and serve.
    Makes 10 cups or 6 main dish servings.

    This is the stuff of which Hollywood legends are made. Rumor has it
    backnwhen Elizabeth Taylor was filming Cleopatra in Rome she craved
    the chilinmade at Chasen's Restaurant in Los Angeles so much that she
    was willing tonpay $100 just to have the order shipped to her. For
    years the recipenremained a closely guarded secret. It seemed the
    owner David Chasen came tonthe restaurant every
    Sunday to privately cook up a batch which he would freeze for the
    week,nbelieving that the chili was best when reheated.

    Contributor: Dimitri

    ** Exported from Now You're Cooking! v5.77 **

    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  18. jay said:
    Koko said:

    the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg
    a slice
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    Great looking chunk of chuck! I know you already have the process underway
    .. since you are cubing it the grain will be correct regardless. It is not
    that important in this case anyway. I usually grind it because it is
    easier for the quantity I usually make, but cube is a nice way to go for
    chili. The pot of meat looks good. What chili/chile powder did you use?
    You do good work Koko.

    jay

    Thanks jay,
    The recipe calls for Gebhardt's chili powder.
    I need a lot more kick so I add three seeded chipotle peppers in adobo
    sauce along with about a tablespoon of the adobo sauce.
    I'll check it tomorrow for any more adjustments.
    Lots of people will be eating this so I want it as good as it can get.
    Koko

    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

  19. Koko said:
    sf said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    >I have no idea. Wish you'd posted a link to Dimitri's recipe.

    I wasn't having a problem with the recipe itself. I just didn't want
    the meat going into it to be tough by slicing the meat with the grain.
    That's why I thought about separating the two pieces of the roast and
    dealing with them separately.
    I was thinking I might have bought the wrong cut of meat to begin
    with.


    I didn't think you had a problem with the recipe, I just needed a link
    to see it so I could make a cogent comment regarding your post. Guess
    you cooked it by this time anyway, so how did it turn out?

    My misunderstanding sf. Here is the recipe

    I added three chipotle peppers in adobo sauce, minus the seeds and
    added about a tablespoon of the adobo sauce.
    That gave it the "kick" it needed. I'll check it tomorrow and adjust
    the spices if needed.

    Thanks! I was interested in what the recipe called for since you were
    concerned about buying the "right cut". Given the way that recipe is
    written... I'd just buy a cheap 7 bone and hope I could find one on
    sale. The recipe says "2 pounds beef chuck, coarsely chopped". Did
    you chop it first? Was it a small cube or a coarse grind?

    🙂

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  20. On Tue, 15 May 2007 21:45:51 -0700, sf wrote:

    Snippage.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks! I was interested in what the recipe called for since you were
    concerned about buying the "right cut". Given the way that recipe is
    written... I'd just buy a cheap 7 bone and hope I could find one on
    sale. The recipe says "2 pounds beef chuck, coarsely chopped". Did
    you chop it first? Was it a small cube or a coarse grind?

    🙂

    I cut it into small cubes.

    I bought what I thought was the right cut, beef chuck.
    What threw me off was when I sliced into the roast and found the grain
    going in two different directions.

    When I cut into the roast
    http://i2.tinypic.com/4vdic7t.jpg

    Slice of roast
    http://i4.tinypic.com/6bunqr7.jpg

    Thanks for your help and input. I appreciate it.
    Koko
    ---
    http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com

    "There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
    George Bernard Shaw

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