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  1. Liathach

    8 June 2007

    The request for this walk started in December 2006 when I was
    contacted by a lady who was looking for a guide to take her brother up
    Liathach for his 50th birthday. After several e-mails everything was
    agreed and her brother James started on a training regime.

    I met James outside the Kinlochewe Hotel where he was staying. The
    Hotel had recently changed hands and it would appear to have improved
    compared to the way it was run previously. We drove towards Torridon
    where James left his vehicle at the foot of Mullach an Rathain and we
    returned up the Glen to the car park below Toll a'Meitheach.

    Quoted message said:

    From this car park we walked the few yards along the road to small


    cairn which marked the start of the path to the Toll a'Mheitheach.
    The path soon crossed to the east bank of the Allt an Doire Ghairbh
    and was in a reasonable condition until higher up where it was very
    eroded. By this time I had learned from James that it had been an
    ambition of his for over 25 years to climb Liathach. In his training
    regime for this walk he had lost over a stone and a half.

    Fortunately the weather was fine as the early morning cloud cleared
    the summit tops. On the ascent James was awestruck with the views
    down into Glen Torridon and across to the mountains on the south side
    of the Glen.

    Eventually we reached the narrow ridge west of Stuc a'Choire Dhuibh
    Bhig. Despite the sun there was a cool breeze but the views made up
    for any slight inconvenience. James was overjoyed with the views and
    all along the ridge and even on the descent kept repeating this fact.

    We walked along the ridge over the Munro Top, Stob a'Choire Liath Mhor
    and ascended the Munro Spidean a'Choire Leith where we had a short
    break and discussed the next section of the ridge which is the hardest
    part of the walk as it gives the most exposure.

    The descent from Spidean a'Choire Leith was over boulders and various
    scree paths which needed care and this took us to the bealach east of
    the pinnacles. It had been decided that we would take the narrow
    path to the south of the pinnacles but even here there were sections
    that were wet and eroded and any slip would have severe
    consequences. James was relieved once we were beyond the pinnacles
    and he could return to enjoying the views instead on concentrating on
    every step he took.

    On a grassy area we had lunch enjoying the surrounding scenery before
    continuing the ascent of Mullach an Rathain. On reaching this summit
    we viewed its severely eroded north-west ridge which led to the
    Northern Pinnacles. The Munro Top, Meall Dearg, is on this ridge and
    a few years ago it took me three visits before I managed to reach its
    summit cairn with an approach from the north by Coire na Caime.

    The descent from Mullach an Rathain was along the ridge for a few
    metres before going down its south ridge where we had views of Upper
    Loch Torridon and its various blue colours. The descent continued
    into Toll Ban but the path was more awkward than on my previous visits
    due to more erosion and over use by walkers. Below Toll Ban the path
    was fine and in the lower stretches it had been upgraded.

    James was pleased with the walk but the weather had made the
    difference so all that was left was the memories of a fine day on
    Liathach and his long drive home to South Yorkshire the next morning.

    Time taken - 6.5 hours.
    Distance - 8 kilometres.
    Height climbed - 1240 metres.

    Photos taken on walk can be seen here:
    http://www.caledoniahilltreks.com/gallery07/liathach_june__07/index.htm

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  2. "Lindsay" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Liathach

    snip

    Good morning Lindsay,

    why didn't you take any pictures on the bypass ?

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  3. Theo said:

    "Lindsay" <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Liathach

    snip

    Good morning Lindsay,

    why didn't you take any pictures on the bypass ?

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theowww.theosphotos.fotopic.net

    Theo

    Hadn't thought about it as the path is not very interesting. In
    anycase being narrow needs a fair bit of concentration especially
    where it was wet and where bits of the path had fallen away. Also I
    needed to keep the client going as that section was the most nervous
    for him. One slip and it is tatties over the side as the saying goes.

    The Pinnacles are probably safer to go over as at least there is
    something to hold onto at times. There was a couple making good
    progress using the Pinnacles while we had lunch.

    Next time I'll try and remember to take a picture of the path.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  4. Lindsay said:
    Theo said:

    "Lindsay" <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Liathach

    Quoted message said:

    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Good morning Lindsay,

    Quoted message said:

    why didn't you take any pictures on the bypass ?

    Quoted message said:

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Quoted message said:

    Theowww.theosphotos.fotopic.net

    Theo

    Hadn't thought about it as the path is not very interesting. In
    anycase being narrow needs a fair bit of concentration especially
    where it was wet and where bits of the path had fallen away. Also I
    needed to keep the client going as that section was the most nervous
    for him. One slip and it is tatties over the side as the saying goes.

    The Pinnacles are probably safer to go over as at least there is
    something to hold onto at times. There was a couple making good
    progress using the Pinnacles while we had lunch.

    Next time I'll try and remember to take a picture of the path.

    Lindsaywww.caledoniahilltreks.com

    Not very interesting? When I walked the bypass path, I found it pretty
    sensational! This may be a reflection of my lack of head for heights.

    I got half way along the pinnacles first but was stopped by a tricky
    little pitch. I was with a couple of rock-climbers who reckoned it was
    of 'diff' standard - hence I went back and round. The bypass path
    clearly is dangerous too, and you are probably more likely to slip
    than on the rock, but I've always thought the one on Liathach was
    pretty spectacular.

    Unlike the bypass path round the Horns of Alligin - which really is
    both dull and dangerous, and pointless as I'm sure 90% can do the
    Horns easily enough.

  5. "Skyewalk" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lindsay said:
    Theo said:

    "Lindsay" <[email hidden]> schreef in
    berichtnews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    > Liathach

    Quoted message said:

    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Good morning Lindsay,

    Quoted message said:

    why didn't you take any pictures on the bypass ?

    Quoted message said:

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Quoted message said:

    Theowww.theosphotos.fotopic.net

    Theo

    Hadn't thought about it as the path is not very interesting. In
    anycase being narrow needs a fair bit of concentration especially
    where it was wet and where bits of the path had fallen away. Also I
    needed to keep the client going as that section was the most nervous
    for him. One slip and it is tatties over the side as the saying goes.

    The Pinnacles are probably safer to go over as at least there is
    something to hold onto at times. There was a couple making good
    progress using the Pinnacles while we had lunch.

    Next time I'll try and remember to take a picture of the path.

    Lindsaywww.caledoniahilltreks.com

    Not very interesting? When I walked the bypass path, I found it pretty
    sensational! This may be a reflection of my lack of head for heights.

    I got half way along the pinnacles first but was stopped by a tricky
    little pitch. I was with a couple of rock-climbers who reckoned it was
    of 'diff' standard - hence I went back and round. The bypass path
    clearly is dangerous too, and you are probably more likely to slip
    than on the rock, but I've always thought the one on Liathach was
    pretty spectacular.

    Unlike the bypass path round the Horns of Alligin - which really is
    both dull and dangerous, and pointless as I'm sure 90% can do the
    Horns easily enough.

    Fot those unknown with the area, here's an example :
    http://www.theosphotos.fotopic.net/p8342134.html and
    http://www.theosphotos.fotopic.net/p8342133.html

    --
    "Beannachd leibh"

    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  6. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Skyewalk <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    I got half way along the pinnacles first but was stopped by a tricky
    little pitch. I was with a couple of rock-climbers who reckoned it was
    of 'diff' standard - hence I went back and round. The bypass path
    clearly is dangerous too, and you are probably more likely to slip
    than on the rock, but I've always thought the one on Liathach was
    pretty spectacular.

    I did the East - West traverse of Liathach with 2 companions one Whitsun
    in the early 70s. I don't recall any difficulties, indeed I can't recall
    anything very much of the walk other than a discussion that was going on
    as we headed up to the ridge.

    Having now seen Theos photos I am convinced I would have remembered the
    bypass path if we had had to take it (even assuming there was a path
    there more than 30 years ago) but I cannot reconcile the alternative
    diff pitch either. Leave aside the suspect abilities of my companions I
    have rarely soloed anything that hard and such brown trouser moments are
    still firmly etched in my memory. My money would be on there being an
    easier way round that particular obstacle on the ridge.

    --
    Roger Chapman
    Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
    89 miles as the crow flies,
    considerably more as the walker drives.

  7. Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Skyewalk <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    I got half way along the pinnacles first but was stopped by a tricky
    little pitch. I was with a couple of rock-climbers who reckoned it was
    of 'diff' standard - hence I went back and round. The bypass path
    clearly is dangerous too, and you are probably more likely to slip
    than on the rock, but I've always thought the one on Liathach was
    pretty spectacular.

    I did the East - West traverse of Liathach with 2 companions one Whitsun
    in the early 70s. I don't recall any difficulties, indeed I can't recall
    anything very much of the walk other than a discussion that was going on
    as we headed up to the ridge.

    Having now seen Theos photos I am convinced I would have remembered the
    bypass path if we had had to take it (even assuming there was a path
    there more than 30 years ago) but I cannot reconcile the alternative
    diff pitch either. Leave aside the suspect abilities of my companions I
    have rarely soloed anything that hard and such brown trouser moments are
    still firmly etched in my memory. My money would be on there being an
    easier way round that particular obstacle on the ridge.

    --
    Roger Chapman
    Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
    89 miles as the crow flies,
    considerably more as the walker drives.

    I'm sure you are right, but with my more confident companions
    disappearing up the steep rock there wasn't anything else I was
    willing to tackle on my own - and I did actually enjoy the bypass path.

  8. On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:27:17 +0100, Roger <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Having now seen Theos photos I am convinced I would have remembered the
    bypass path if we had had to take it (even assuming there was a path
    there more than 30 years ago) but I cannot reconcile the alternative
    diff pitch either.

    There's definitely a section that's at least Diff, as I backed off it
    when on my first visit (alone). Having backed off, I quickly found
    the 'correct' route, which bypasses just that one pinnacle.

    The normal bypass path is IMHO both harder and more dangerous than the
    directish route over the pinnacles.

    Simon

    --
    Stop ID cards and the Database State
    http://www.no2id.net/

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