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  1. Hello everyone,

    I guess many of you will be aware of the OpenStreetMap project,
    www.openstreetmap.org, which aims to produce free global mapping data
    from GPS tracks. So far the focus has been rather more on street
    mapping but there has also been a significant amount done in the
    countryside, notably in Hampshire (New Forest and South Downs) and
    parts of the Midlands.

    I would like to organise an OpenStreetMap event in the Lake District,
    with the idea of introducing walkers to free mapping, with a
    particular emphasis on the issues specific to creating free
    countryside maps, such as those at Freemap (free-map.org.uk) which now
    uses OpenStreetMap data. The aim will be to try and map as many of the
    main footpaths and summit ascent routes in the Grasmere-Langdale area,
    possibly extending to Rosthwaite and Coniston, in a week. There will
    be a choice of doing high or low level routes depending on weather and
    personal preferences.

    People will survey the footpaths and other well-used routes with GPS
    devices and then upload them to the web. The week will also cover how
    to survey landscape features such as crags.

    I'm proposing to hold the mapping week during the week of the 3rd -
    8th July. People can either stay the whole time or drop in and out as
    they feel like it. No firm plans on venues yet - I'd first of all like
    to get an idea of the level of interest.

    If this sounds interesting then do sign up at

    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Lake_District_Mapping_Week

    Nick

  2. On 4 May 2007 10:22:14 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

    |!Hello everyone,
    |!
    |!I guess many of you will be aware of the OpenStreetMap project,
    |!www.openstreetmap.org, which aims to produce free global mapping data
    |!from GPS tracks.

    Ouch! My house , Village and roads do not exist :-(
    The main roads and most of the minor roads are at minimum on the Out of
    Copyright 50 year old OS Maps.
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  3. On May 4, 8:39 pm, Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On 4 May 2007 10:22:14 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

    |!Hello everyone,
    |!
    |!I guess many of you will be aware of the OpenStreetMap project,
    |!www.openstreetmap.org, which aims to produce free global mapping data
    |!from GPS tracks.

    Ouch! My house , Village and roads do not exist :-(
    The main roads and most of the minor roads are at minimum on the Out of
    Copyright 50 year old OS Maps.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <sf hyphenologist.co.uk> 165 *Free* SF ebooks.
    165 Sci Fi books on CDROM, from Project Gutenberghttp://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_PageCompletely Free to any
    address in the UK. Contact me on the *above* email address.

    Well, if you own a GPS you know what to do :-)

    Nick

  4. On May 4, 8:39 pm, Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On 4 May 2007 10:22:14 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

    |!Hello everyone,
    |!
    |!I guess many of you will be aware of the OpenStreetMap project,
    |!www.openstreetmap.org, which aims to produce free global mapping data
    |!from GPS tracks.

    Ouch! My house , Village and roads do not exist :-(
    The main roads and most of the minor roads are at minimum on the Out of
    Copyright 50 year old OS Maps.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <sf hyphenologist.co.uk> 165 *Free* SF ebooks.
    165 Sci Fi books on CDROM, from Project Gutenberghttp://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_PageCompletely Free to any
    address in the UK. Contact me on the *above* email address.

    Well if you own a GPS you know what to do :-)

    Seriously, the OSM project is growing all the time and the amount of
    data which has been added in the last 12 months, given the age of the
    project is quite immense. I don't think you should let the fact that
    your particular area has nothing on it put you off, indeed it should
    encourage you to get out there and get surveying :-) The benefits of
    copyright free mapping data (as has been discussed on this group in
    the past) are quite significant and it would be good to get some
    interest from walkers.

    Nick

  5. Quoted message said:


    Seriously, the OSM project is growing all the time and the amount of
    data which has been added in the last 12 months, given the age of the
    project is quite immense. I don't think you should let the fact that
    your particular area has nothing on it put you off, indeed it should
    encourage you to get out there and get surveying :-) The benefits of
    copyright free mapping data (as has been discussed on this group in
    the past) are quite significant and it would be good to get some
    interest from walkers.

    Nick

    There is a lot more to mapping than GPS tracks. There are already
    established systems of sharing paths and routes.

    It's the background mapping (features) which are important and I don't
    see anything on the examples you gave which is likely to tempt me away
    from 0S 1:25000

    Roy.

  6. On 5 May 2007 02:01:17 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

    |!On May 4, 8:39 pm, Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]>
    |!wrote:
    |!> On 4 May 2007 10:22:14 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
    |!>
    |!> |!Hello everyone,
    |!> |!
    |!> |!I guess many of you will be aware of the OpenStreetMap project,
    |!> |!www.openstreetmap.org, which aims to produce free global mapping data
    |!> |!from GPS tracks.
    |!>
    |!> Ouch! My house , Village and roads do not exist :-(
    |!> The main roads and most of the minor roads are at minimum on the Out of
    |!> Copyright 50 year old OS Maps.

    |!Well, if you own a GPS you know what to do :-)

    As one who exploits, see sig, the letter of Copyright Laws by making etext
    from Out Of Copyright books, I am amazed that the main roads which occur on
    Out Of Copyright OS maps are not included.
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  7. On Sat, 05 May 2007 10:53:01 +0100, Roy <x@y> wrote:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    |!
    |!>
    |!> Seriously, the OSM project is growing all the time and the amount of
    |!> data which has been added in the last 12 months, given the age of the
    |!> project is quite immense. I don't think you should let the fact that
    |!> your particular area has nothing on it put you off, indeed it should
    |!> encourage you to get out there and get surveying :-) The benefits of
    |!> copyright free mapping data (as has been discussed on this group in
    |!> the past) are quite significant and it would be good to get some
    |!> interest from walkers.
    |!>
    |!> Nick
    |!>
    |!
    |!There is a lot more to mapping than GPS tracks. There are already
    |!established systems of sharing paths and routes.
    |!It's the background mapping (features) which are important

    Like contour lines, *Danger Areas*, Open Access Areas etc, etc.

    |!and I don't
    |!see anything on the examples you gave which is likely to tempt me away
    |!from 0S 1:25000

    Amen to that. We even use OS Explorers when driving in country areas.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <sf hyphenologist.co.uk> 165 *Free* SF ebooks.
    165 Sci Fi books on CDROM, from Project Gutenberg
    http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page Completely Free to any
    address in the UK. Contact me on the *above* email address.

  8. "Dave Fawthrop" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    |!Well, if you own a GPS you know what to do :-)

    As one who exploits, see sig, the letter of Copyright Laws by making etext
    from Out Of Copyright books, I am amazed that the main roads which occur
    on
    Out Of Copyright OS maps are not included.
    --


    ....which shows the limitations of the ambitions of this project. Downloading
    GPS tracks is one thing but turning old maps into digital data and using
    that to provide background info is a big task.

    Graham

  9. Dave Fawthrop said:

    On Sat, 05 May 2007 10:53:01 +0100, Roy <x@y> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    |!There is a lot more to mapping than GPS tracks. There are already
    |!established systems of sharing paths and routes.
    |!It's the background mapping (features) which are important

    Like contour lines, *Danger Areas*,

    aka "bloody big drops"

    Honestly, this sums up my argument against blindly following GPS tracks
    (which I know no-one on this ng does) without proper reference to a
    detailed map (and the ability to know where you are on it helps).

    Quoted message said:


    |!and I don't
    |!see anything on the examples you gave which is likely to tempt me away
    |!from 0S 1:25000

    Amen to that. We even use OS Explorers when driving in country areas.

    Oh I make do with 50k when driving - that's my road rallying background.

    Roy.

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