Aquadry

Quoted message said:

Just curious as I'm not needing waterproofs at the moment. Just wondered if
anyone has any experience of Craghoppers Aquadry,waterproof, breathable
products compared to other waterproofs ?

Not directly, though ISTM the general case is that breathable/waterproof
coating alternatives[1] offered against the market leaders[2] aren't as
good as the leading membranes/coatings, typically being considerably
less breathable.

That's not to say they're not any good, and especially if you rarely use
waterproofs, or when you do it isn't for that long, they can be quite
good enough. If most of their life is spent in the bottom of you bag
then a low price and low bulk may be more attractive than outright
breathability.

Pete.

[1] i.e., HiVent, Conduit, Hydrodry, Ceplex, Triplepoint, Aquafoil etc.
[2] Goretex, eVent, Paramo (a bit different from the others, but
certainly one of the most breatahble waterproofs you'll get)
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Quoted message said:

Just curious as I'm not needing waterproofs at the moment. Just
wondered if anyone has any experience of Craghoppers
Aquadry,waterproof, breathable products compared to other waterproofs

Based on a jacket I've owned for a few years now:

OK assuming middle-low price (say 60 pounds). I have a jacket I use on the
bicycle if I get caught out, and carry up hills on days when showers are a
possibility but not a certainty.

Breathable - I suppose it is, but condensation is a big issue. Far worse
than leading breathable materials, but then its cheaper. Better than some
very cheap materials.

Waterproofing - fabric is OK, but the jacket I have now leaks at various
seam and logo attachments. This is fine given its age and number of times
screwed up into a stuff sack.

Would I get another ? No.

For a light hill jacket (and the bike if its going to rain), I'd get a
Berghaus Paclite smock for around £120-140.
My other half has one, its superb for the weight. Unless they've changed
things, whilst the smock is properly designed for hills with a good hood,
the similarly priced jacket has a vastly inferior hood design (assuming you
want it to keep the rain out on a windy hillside!).
And, I'd live with the chance that the fabric will fail in a few years for
the reduced pack weight lugging it around.
I might also consider a similar product from Montane which, I think, uses
EVent fabric.

For heavier or winter, not sure what I'd do. I know my old Slioch
made-to-measure hefty goretex is massively out of date. Probably I'd look at
Paramo.

- Nigel

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Just curious as I'm not needing waterproofs at the moment. Just wondered
if
anyone has any experience of Craghoppers Aquadry,waterproof, breathable
products compared to other waterproofs ?

Not directly, though ISTM the general case is that breathable/waterproof
coating alternatives[1] offered against the market leaders[2] aren't as
good as the leading membranes/coatings, typically being considerably less
breathable.

That's not to say they're not any good, and especially if you rarely use
waterproofs, or when you do it isn't for that long, they can be quite good
enough. If most of their life is spent in the bottom of you bag then a
low price and low bulk may be more attractive than outright breathability.

Pete.

[1] i.e., HiVent, Conduit, Hydrodry, Ceplex, Triplepoint, Aquafoil etc.
[2] Goretex, eVent, Paramo (a bit different from the others, but certainly
one of the most breatahble waterproofs you'll get)
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

I have the following jacket fabrics:

Hydrodry: Good when it was new, but after a medium amount of wear, started
to leak. I now only use it as a windproof as I don't trust it too much in
even mild conditions.

Triplepoint: This is my winter jacket, I love my Lowe Alpine Alpine (great
name). Very waterproof, but a bit stiff for mild conditions.

Goretex: I bought a Brasher Jacket many years ago, it was in a sale (a
salesman sample I was told) It's tough, waterproof and my number 1 jacket.
I'm a great fan of this material, but I'm not sure what Goretex it is.

Hope that helps.

Jhimmy

Jhimmy said:

Triplepoint: This is my winter jacket, I love my Lowe Alpine Alpine (great
name). Very waterproof, but a bit stiff for mild conditions.

Note that Triplepoint and Triplepoint Ceramic are very different
things. TP Ceramic is discontinued now (replaced briefly by eVent
and subsequently Goretex), and was considerably more robust and
breatahble (but heavier and more expensive) than Triplepoint (not
Ceramic). Not sure which your jacket is, just flagging up the
possibility you mean TPC rather than TP.

Pete.
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Quoted message said:

Goretex: I bought a Brasher Jacket many years ago, it was in a sale (a
salesman sample I was told) It's tough, waterproof and my number 1 jacket.
I'm a great fan of this material, but I'm not sure what Goretex it is.

As a slight aside, US space suits are made of (among other things)
Goretex. I find it's a good topic to drop into the conversation after
about 6 pints ......

"1981
NASA's first space shuttle mission, shuttle Columbia, carries astronauts
wearing spacesuits made with GORE-TEX fabric."

http://www.gore-tex.com.au/www/348/1001127/displayarticle/1001188.html

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

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Jhimmy said:

Triplepoint: This is my winter jacket, I love my Lowe Alpine Alpine
(great name). Very waterproof, but a bit stiff for mild conditions.

Note that Triplepoint and Triplepoint Ceramic are very different things.
TP Ceramic is discontinued now (replaced briefly by eVent and subsequently
Goretex), and was considerably more robust and breatahble (but heavier and
more expensive) than Triplepoint (not Ceramic). Not sure which your
jacket is, just flagging up the possibility you mean TPC rather than TP.

Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Arh, point taken. I always though all Triplepoint was the same (ish).

Yes, mine's Triplepoint Ceramic.

Jhimmy