Tendonosis healing

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Hey im looking for information on healing tendonosis in my forearms
and elbows from weightlifting. Its affecting my guitar practicing some
too. Im trying different things, deep friction massage, homemade
mononitrate gel with dmso, comfrey oil, eccntric training... One thing
ive noticed is my pain is getting worse sometimes after doing these
things. Can it be a sign of healing?
thanks

Ibuprofen.

Works for me...
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One thing ive noticed is my pain is getting worse sometimes after doing these things. Can it be a sign of healing?
thanks

If the fascia around the muscles has shortened around the muscles that
connect to the elbows, then the muscle can't move through it's range
of motion. Or the antagonistic muscle group is shortened and strong
and therefore causing the agonist muscle group to have to pull against
a semi relaxing antagonist muscle. The feel of fascia letting go
feels like an Indian burn. Doing cross friction on the muscle may be
of most help.

Also if you grab the forearm with hand facing upward with the hand
facing up of the other arm, and let the fingers push into for foream
so as to hold the forearm muscles in place. Slowly rotate the arm
while keep the forearm muscles from popping across where they were
being held by the fingers. If you do that and cross friction with the
fingers holding the muscle back you can work both fascia and muscle.
Or use the same holding and rotating of the arm while imagining
slipping and stretching the fingers into a tight leather glove.

Ozzie Gontang
rec.running FAQ
Mindful Running http://mindfulness.com

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

One thing ive noticed is my pain is getting worse sometimes after doing
these things. Can it be a sign of healing?
thanks

If the fascia around the muscles has shortened around the muscles that
connect to the elbows, then the muscle can't move through it's range
of motion. Or the antagonistic muscle group is shortened and strong
and therefore causing the agonist muscle group to have to pull against
a semi relaxing antagonist muscle. The feel of fascia letting go
feels like an Indian burn. Doing cross friction on the muscle may be
of most help.

I've read in a few places that Rolfing is good for that, if you can find
a practitioner (and handle the pain?)

Quoted message said:

Also if you grab the forearm with hand facing upward with the hand
facing up of the other arm, and let the fingers push into for foream
so as to hold the forearm muscles in place. Slowly rotate the arm
while keep the forearm muscles from popping across where they were
being held by the fingers. If you do that and cross friction with the
fingers holding the muscle back you can work both fascia and muscle.
Or use the same holding and rotating of the arm while imagining
slipping and stretching the fingers into a tight leather glove.

Ozzie Gontang
rec.running FAQ
Mindful Running http://mindfulness.com

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Peace, Om

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Quoted message said:

Hey im looking for information on healingtendonosisin my forearms
and elbows from weightlifting. Its affecting my guitar practicing some
too. Im trying different things, deep friction massage, homemade
mononitrate gel with dmso, comfrey oil, eccntric training... One thing
ive noticed is my pain is getting worse sometimes after doing these
things. Can it be a sign of healing?
thanks

OK, I'm in the same boat, I don't claim to be an expert, but I'll give
a data dump of what I've learned. My main trouble area is the inside
of the elbows, a condition they sometimes call golfer's elbow,
pitcher's elbow, climber's elbow. Most of the remedies fall into
several categories.

1. biomechanics. If you have bad posture (common in the modern world
where we sit/drive a lot), you potentially load your muscles, tendons,
joints in a different manner than was intended. In my opinion the
group that has thought this through the most is Egoscue. Do a search
on "Egoscue" on amazon.com or go to www.egoscue.com - they have
clinics in many cities. They claim for example that most elbow
problems come from the shoulders and upper back not being positioned
right.

2. stretch/strengthen. If the muscles/tendons have shortened, then
perhaps they rub on the bones causing irritation. Or if they aren't
strong enough, then need to be built up. A guy has a course at
www.golferselbowtips.com - it's some stretches followed by exercises.
I've been doing it for a couple weeks, and it seems to be helping.
This website has various courses for healing up various chronic
injuries http://www.webtennis.net/tennis-injuries.htm

3. deep tissue massage/break up adhesions. If you've got scar tissue,
then breaking it up can potentially restore proper motion and
stimulate collagen production. This guy has a self-treatment video
for both golfer's elbow and tennis elbow http://www.precisionmuscle.com/videos/ge.html
that involved deep tissue work.

4. nutritional contribution to inflammation. A trainer told me some
people are more prone to imflammatory injuries, and cutting certain
foods can reduce this. I have not really investigated this yet.

5. Proper exercise selection/exercise technique. The book "The
Insider's Tell-All Handbook on Weight Training Technique" claims that
many "standard" weight training exercises are problematic for a large
percentage of people eventually. Presses behind neck, upright rows,
lying tricep extension, hack squats, etc. I can certainly concur that
I am paying now for going heavy on a lot of these when I was young.
My own elbows improved when I cut tricep work back to just two
exercises - I do single arm pushdowns with my wrist in a neutral
position, meaning I grasp the rubber ball on the pulley system like
I'm holding a beer, and I do the dip machine. In terms of technique,
adopting the "time under tension" method where you do slow reps, like
4 seconds up, 4 second down, forces you to cut weight, which is easier
on the joints, but you can still get decent results if not ego-
gratification.

6. I've just read some articles on eccentric training. There is one
all over the web about how it was used for achilles tendonosis. I
think doing slow reps like described in 5 inherently focuses on the
eccentric portion to some degree.

This is what I know so far, hope it helps,

Tim