I was doing a 9 mile loop with about 2,00 feet of up over 7.5 miles with an 1,100 drop the last 2.5. Nothing extraordinary, what I call an easy run. I had done 5 hours on Thursday so I was off schedule for a typical long run on the weekend. Anywho, The run was long enough and the temps were is the high 80's with humidity about 60% that I felt it best to carry a small bottle.
I usually throw on my single waist pack and off I go. I was grabbing a bottle and I saw a single bottle with hand grip that I got for placing in a race and decided to take it instead. As usual I filled it with ice and then and then added water. (Too short for a sports drink.) I really dislike warm drinks and why the ice.
Off I go with jug in hand. About 5 minutes later I damn near had frostbite and had to keep switching hands. About a half hour into the run the ice had melted and my hands were ok but it was [censored] warm. Moral, return to waist pack, whith by the way, has a mesh in belt to keep body heat away and the sleeves are insulated. Had I gone with a waist pack I would have had cold water for the entire trip and avoided the frostbite. Now remembering why hand helds are not for me. Always learning or it it re-learning. 😉
I was doing a 9 mile loop with about 2,00 feet of up over 7.5 miles with an 1,100 drop the last 2.5. Nothing extraordinary, what I call an easy run. I had done 5 hours on Thursday so I was off schedule for a typical long run on the weekend. Anywho, The run was long enough and the temps were is the high 80's with humidity about 60% that I felt it best to carry a small bottle.
I usually throw on my single waist pack and off I go. I was grabbing a bottle and I saw a single bottle with hand grip that I got for placing in a race and decided to take it instead. As usual I filled it with ice and then and then added water. (Too short for a sports drink.) I really dislike warm drinks and why the ice.
Off I go with jug in hand. About 5 minutes later I damn near had frostbite and had to keep switching hands. About a half hour into the run the ice had melted and my hands were ok but it was [censored] warm. Moral, return to waist pack, whith by the way, has a mesh in belt to keep body heat away and the sleeves are insulated. Had I gone with a waist pack I would have had cold water for the entire trip and avoided the frostbite. Now remembering why hand helds are not for me. Always learning or it it re-learning. 😉
-Doug
Maybe an insulator material around the bottle like the ones they make for beer bottles would do the trick, keep the hands warm and the liquid cold.
Had I gone with a waist pack I would have had cold water for the entire trip and avoided the frostbite. Now remembering why hand helds are not for me. Always learning or it it re-learning. 😉
-Doug
😉 I noticed in one article I read that Scott Jurek does upper body work - to carry the hand helds.😉 (different issue, but another issue against them, not to mention if you've got 2, you can't take pictures, and it's harder to hit lap button 😉 )
I tried a Nalgene bladder in my pack to see if the quick-disconnect hose might be an advantage when I have to add water. Wrong (amusing story). Back to cb bladders for me.
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😉 I noticed in one article I read that Scott Jurek does upper body work - to carry the hand helds.😉 (different issue, but another issue against them, not to mention if you've got 2, you can't take pictures, and it's harder to hit lap button 😉 )
Had I gone with a waist pack I would have had cold water for the entire trip and avoided the frostbite. Now remembering why hand helds are not for me. Always learning or it it re-learning. 😉
Hey, I do the same kind of thing, retesting what I know to be true every once in a while, (having forgotten why I do it *this* way) then usually end up kicking myself...
One acquaintance broke his arm falling while attached to his hand-held bottle. He swears that he'd have been ok if he had a pack.
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😉 I noticed in one article I read that Scott Jurek does upper body work - to carry the hand helds.😉 (different issue, but another issue against them, not to mention if you've got 2, you can't take pictures, and it's harder to hit lap button 😉 )
I'm shocked, have you started doing lap dances? 🙂
You betcha - dancing with the hills. Gotta hit the lap button as one dance blends to next. 😉
Dot sorry, reading about NZ runners "working" Waiaitura hills
-- "Dream big and dare to fail." --- Norman Vaughan world-famous adventurer who was with Byrd in Antarctica
One acquaintance broke his arm falling while attached to his hand-held bottle.
I like my hand-held routine lately: two miles into my run I hit the park vendor for a G'rade. Chug half of it immediately - which nicely lightens my load - and the other half ten or fifteen minutes later. Toss bottle. Supplement with water fountains if necessary... or if I were doing a even a moderately long run (which sadly I haven't found myself doing lately), maybe buy another bottle of G'rade.
"Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | I like my hand-held routine lately: two miles into my run I hit the | park vendor for a G'rade. Chug half of it immediately - which nicely | lightens my load - and the other half ten or fifteen minutes later. | Toss bottle. Supplement with water fountains if necessary... or if I | were doing a even a moderately long run (which sadly I haven't found | myself doing lately), maybe buy another bottle of G'rade.
Yeah CP, rub it in the stuff the country folks don't have access to.
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Hey, I do the same kind of thing, retesting what I know to be true every nce in a while, (having forgotten why I do it *this* way) then usually end up kicking myself...
With the wisdom of age comes slower synapses and fewer brain cells so we, are doomed to repeat. 😉
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One acquaintance broke his arm falling while attached to his hand-held bottle. He swears that he'd have been ok if he had a pack.
I believe it. The jug does make for a great cushion but ones first reaction is to avoid landing on the bottle and losing the contents leading to awkward landings.
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I like my hand-held routine lately: two miles into my run I hit the park vendor for a G'rade. Chug half of it immediately - which nicely lightens my load - and the other half ten or fifteen minutes later. Toss bottle. Supplement with water fountains if necessary... or if I were doing a even a moderately long run (which sadly I haven't found myself doing lately), maybe buy another bottle of G'rade.
I guess this is one of the advantages of running in a big city. If my long runs go past a store or fountain I have lost my way. Hell if I find cell service I'm off trail. 😉
I guess this is one of the advantages of running in a big city. If my long runs go past a store or fountain I have lost my way.
And if I get a whiff of clean air or a glimpse of wildlife larger than a rodent, I'd have to reckon I was a victim of alien abduction, redeposited who knows where.
But at least I don't have to be too worried about stumbling across a protective mama bear!
I guess this is one of the advantages of running in a big city. If my long runs go past a store or fountain I have lost my way.
And if I get a whiff of clean air or a glimpse of wildlife larger than a rodent, I'd have to reckon I was a victim of alien abduction, redeposited who knows where.
And I have the best--or worst--of both of those worlds.
But I don't have the wurst of PDQ Bach.
-- Crossing the starting line is 90%. Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.
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Doug said:
I guess this is one of the advantages of running in a big city. If my long runs go past a store or fountain I have lost my way.
And if I get a whiff of clean air or a glimpse of wildlife larger than a rodent, I'd have to reckon I was a victim of alien abduction, redeposited who knows where.
But at least I don't have to be too worried about stumbling across a protective mama bear!
Up here in 'ahem' suburbia, in recent years rogue black bears have been wandering down from Harriman state park surprisingly far in remaining strips of woods. Police track them and articles appear in the local paper. In central-northern New Jersey this is such a common occurrence that the fight over the 'black bear hunt' between animal lovers and owners fearful of their children in the back yard has raged. Of course small pets (and very small children) can't be let out anyway because of the coyotes -- yes coyotes less than 15 miles from NYC. I've actually seen coyotes at the edge of relatively narrow Hook Mountain state park, that skirts the eastern part of Rockland county NY, where I do many of my rocky hiking trail runs. Of course when I spent summers in the Catskills years ago I would see black bears eating at the side of the road from the dumpsters of some of the large orthodox Jewish retreat compounds (there are many up there), and have to ride my bike or run past them fairly often (I'd usually detour into the woods when running).
Of course when I spent summers in the Catskills years ago I would see black bears eating at the side of the road from the dumpsters of some of the large orthodox Jewish retreat compounds
Bears who keep kosher. Do they davin too?
-- Crossing the starting line is 90%. Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.
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Of course when I spent summers in the Catskills years ago I would see black bears eating at the side of the road from the dumpsters of some of the large orthodox Jewish retreat compounds
Off I go with jug in hand. About 5 minutes later I damn near had frostbite and had to keep switching hands. About a half hour into the run the ice had melted and my hands were ok but it was [censored] warm.
