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  1. For those not familiar with Mount Marathon, it's a 5k (more or less)
    with about 3000ft of up between mile 0.5 and 1.5, then back down again,
    finishing with 0.5 mi on flat road. It's one of the oldest races in US -
    after Boston and just a tad younger than Dipsea, although Dipsea may
    have had fewer years when it wasn't run.

    There's probably a dozen articles (media blitz started Sunday) and a
    video at this link:
    http://www.adn.com/sports/Mount_Marathon/07mountmarathon/

    This was the 80th running, and it seems like both the newspaper and tv
    had more coverage this year. I know at least one of the anchors runs
    (and one of the former anchors runs also). The NBC affiliate usually has
    coverage of all the mtn running grand prix races, but Mount Marathon is
    special anyway.

    Apparently the race organizers connected with the tv folks (or vice
    versa) to create a safety film that was shown at the pre-race safety
    meeting.

    TV had some good shots from the junior race with commentary from the RD
    of the "cliff" section that is shown in the video. Note the hard hats on
    the volunteers at the base. Tony should be in his element there.😉 One
    woman that was on tv footage got a rock in the face.

    Dot

    --
    "The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury."
    - John Hardy
    http://www.mountainrunning.coolrunning.com.au/misc/training.shtml

  2. I've mounted several marathon fans. Females I mount for pleasure,
    males get their racks displayed on my cellar walls after I stuff them.
    Pretty easy with runners, they are so damn skinny.

  3. There's 2 videos under "Featured Video" in middle of this page.
    http://www.ktuu.com/

    --
    "The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury."
    - John Hardy
    http://www.mountainrunning.coolrunning.com.au/misc/training.shtml

  4. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There's 2 videos under "Featured Video" in middle of this page.
    http://www.ktuu.com/

    Great flicks! After watching the first video I was surprised that there
    no bodies falling especially rookies on tired legs. After watching the
    second I got to see the real race. It was really good to see the course
    marshals out there watching and helping.

    As much as I dislike 5K's, this would be one I would do, although
    slowly.

    -Doug

  5. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There's 2 videos under "Featured Video" in middle of this page.
    http://www.ktuu.com/

    Now this looks like Tony's wet dream!
    I wouldn't mind trying this assuming I was healthy. I went to a rare team
    workout last night. My wife and I were following the slow group as we had
    done the workout in the morning. The group insisted on taking turns leading
    and talked me in to leading a (1 minute) pickup. It happened to end on a
    down hill with steps to avoid, roots, turns and mud at the bottom. I left
    everyone in the dust, err, I mean mud.

    Parker

  6. Doug Freese said:

    As much as I dislike 5K's, this would be one I would do, although
    slowly.

    -Doug

    You couldn't "do" anything except slowly at your age. Except sex, we
    know there's no getting it up at your age.

  7. Quoted message said:

    I've mounted several marathon fans.

    Me too, but just females.

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  8. Doug Freese said:

    "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There's 2 videos under "Featured Video" in middle of this page.
    http://www.ktuu.com/

    Great flicks! After watching the first video I was surprised that there
    no bodies falling especially rookies on tired legs. After watching the
    second I got to see the real race. It was really good to see the course
    marshals out there watching and helping.

    There's been some great shots in the past where a leader tripped on the
    downhill and literally flew through the air into first place, which he
    quickly lost by the time he got back on his feet. I think they have one
    or two of the classic downhill fall shots in the lead-up articles.

    The lead story on July 4 evening news was the "Managing Mount Marathon"
    video which looks like it has slid down into a video box farther down
    the page while "More Mount Marathon" is still in the top box. The
    reporter for that article is a runner himself. The Managing story is
    actually during the junior race. July 5 they mentioned - with a smile -
    that there was more video on their web site for those that "just
    couldn't get enough of Mt. Marathon." And that's more of the men's and
    women's races. The reason I watched it so many times is I thought I knew
    the lady that got clocked as well as the one helping, but the two of
    them should not have been in the same place in the race. Finally decided
    it wasn't them.

    And, yea, before seeing that, I didn't realize they actually had
    spotters there to help the kids when needed. The junior front runners
    are usually experienced and don't need the help. The adults are
    encouraged to get on the mountain before race day or you don't belong in
    the race. You probably noticed where they had the boards to carry
    someone out, if needed.😉

    Not sure if you picked up on this, but this was one of the closest men's
    races in history. Last year there was 12 sec between #1 and #2. (and
    both are nice guys and RDs) This year only 11 sec, but #3 and #4 weren't
    much farther back, like within a min, iirc. Unlike many of the mtn
    races, in this one you have to run the 1/2 mi flat pavement for position
    at base of mtn, hang with the front runners to the top (3000ft in 1 mi,
    30 min from start, I think), then rocket down (11 or so min downhill),
    then go like heck that flat 1/2 mile again to the finish line. The
    racers have to be multi-skilled.

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    As much as I dislike 5K's, this would be one I would do, although
    slowly.

    Join the lottery! Probably close to as hard as WS100 to get in since
    priority goes to past runners. After a certain date, they have a lottery
    for most of the remaining slots (maybe about 50-100 for each sex, now
    that they expanded the race to 350 from 300 per sex when they had more
    returners than slots - allowed a year off with permission for injuries
    or whatever). The day before there's also a raffle ($5/ticket, iirc) for
    some slots, and an auction for the really desparate - sometimes over
    $1000 to get a slot. One of the articles has more specific numbers.

    Next year they'll have the men run first and the women 2nd and planning
    on alternating years, if that works out. In the past the men have been
    considered the "showcase" event, but no more. They feel the women's race
    can hold its own. A couple more women than men finished in 2006. That
    will also give the men a chance to run on the trail before it gets
    trampled by 350 women. The juniors only go part way up.

    Dot

    --
    "The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury."
    - John Hardy
    http://www.mountainrunning.coolrunning.com.au/misc/training.shtml

  9. Dot wrote:
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    Quoted message said:

    Join the lottery! Probably close to as hard as WS100 to get in since
    priority goes to past runners. After a certain date, they have a lottery
    for most of the remaining slots (maybe about 50-100 for each sex, now
    that they expanded the race to 350 from 300 per sex when they had more
    returners than slots - allowed a year off with permission for injuries
    or whatever). The day before there's also a raffle ($5/ticket, iirc) for
    some slots, and an auction for the really desparate - sometimes over
    $1000 to get a slot. One of the articles has more specific numbers.

    I tried that last year but no luck 🙁 But I still ran, rather walked,
    part of it on my own a couple of days before the race. It is an
    experience. Especially the view of the town and the bay below once you
    get to the top.

    Last year, the success ratio in the lottery was 9% according to this page:

    http://www.seward.com/news-events/marathon/race_details.htm

    I wonder what it was this year. For women, it was 32%.

    Then they have the auction for 10 slots. According to this page,

    http://www.adn.com/sports/Mount_Marathon/07mountmarathon/story/9105232p-9021426c.html

    "The 10 men's bibs Tuesday night went for a combined $9,930 -- an
    average of $993 per bib. That's compared to $871 per men's bib in 2006.

    The 10 women's bibs went for $3,930, an average of $393 per bib. That
    was a monumental increase; last year, women's bibs averaged $110.50."

    jobs

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  10. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    For those not familiar with Mount Marathon, it's a 5k (more or less) with
    about 3000ft of up between mile 0.5 and 1.5, then back down again,
    finishing with 0.5 mi on flat road. It's one of the oldest races in US -
    after Boston and just a tad younger than Dipsea, although Dipsea may have
    had fewer years when it wasn't run.

    There's probably a dozen articles (media blitz started Sunday) and a video
    at this link:
    http://www.adn.com/sports/Mount_Marathon/07mountmarathon/

    Dot - thanks for the video links. Amazing looking race.
    I've read your reports over the years, but as they say
    "a picture is worth...." I never realised how steep parts
    of the course were - scaling the cliff... I've certainly
    never tried anything that extreme...

    Anthony.

  11. Anthony said:

    "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    For those not familiar with Mount Marathon, it's a 5k (more or less) with
    about 3000ft of up between mile 0.5 and 1.5, then back down again,
    finishing with 0.5 mi on flat road. It's one of the oldest races in US -
    after Boston and just a tad younger than Dipsea, although Dipsea may have
    had fewer years when it wasn't run.

    There's probably a dozen articles (media blitz started Sunday) and a video
    at this link:
    http://www.adn.com/sports/Mount_Marathon/07mountmarathon/

    Dot - thanks for the video links. Amazing looking race.
    I've read your reports over the years, but as they say
    "a picture is worth...." I never realised how steep parts
    of the course were - scaling the cliff... I've certainly
    never tried anything that extreme...

    Now you know why I consider myself a wimp and why I consider the hard
    core mountain runners like gods.😉

    Dot

    --
    "Dream big and dare to fail." --- Norman Vaughan
    world-famous adventurer who was with Byrd in Antarctica

  12. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Anthony said:

    Dot - thanks for the video links. Amazing looking race.
    I've read your reports over the years, but as they say
    "a picture is worth...." I never realised how steep parts
    of the course were - scaling the cliff... I've certainly
    never tried anything that extreme...

    Now you know why I consider myself a wimp and why I consider the hard core
    mountain runners like gods.😉

    Dot - it looks like there will be a trail ultra sometime next year over
    here.
    With some serious climbs etc - I'm seriously considering
    taking the plunge....Doubt it will be Mt Marathonesque, but it
    sounds like fun.

    Anthony.

  13. "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dot - it looks like there will be a trail ultra sometime next year
    over here.
    With some serious climbs etc - I'm seriously considering
    taking the plunge....Doubt it will be Mt Marathonesque, but it
    sounds like fun.

    Careful Anthony, ultras on trails will surround you with experiences
    never felt before. The notion that roads are for vehicles will once
    again become reality. 🙂

    -Doug

  14. "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dot - it looks like there will be a trail ultra sometime next year over
    here.
    With some serious climbs etc - I'm seriously considering
    taking the plunge....Doubt it will be Mt Marathonesque, but it
    sounds like fun.

    Careful Anthony, ultras on trails will surround you with experiences never
    felt before. The notion that roads are for vehicles will once again become
    reality. 🙂

    -Doug

    Doug - looking forward to those experiences. And no doubt
    I'll be asking for some input from you as the event approaches.

    Anthony.

  15. Anthony said:

    "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Anthony said:

    Dot - thanks for the video links. Amazing looking race.
    I've read your reports over the years, but as they say
    "a picture is worth...." I never realised how steep parts
    of the course were - scaling the cliff... I've certainly
    never tried anything that extreme...

    Now you know why I consider myself a wimp and why I consider the hard core
    mountain runners like gods.😉

    Dot - it looks like there will be a trail ultra sometime next year over
    here.
    With some serious climbs etc - I'm seriously considering
    taking the plunge....Doubt it will be Mt Marathonesque, but it
    sounds like fun.

    Go for it!! You'll have a lot of fun and new challenges.

    Dot

    --
    "Dream big and dare to fail." --- Norman Vaughan
    world-famous adventurer who was with Byrd in Antarctica

  16. "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Doug - looking forward to those experiences. And no doubt
    I'll be asking for some input from you as the event approaches.

    Between Dan, Tony, Steve, Dot and others I'm sure I left out, you will
    get a nice cross-section of ideas in reasonable dialog.

    -Doug

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