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  1. I have had issues with mid- and lower-back pain recently that have
    probably occurred while running, but I've only noticed them when I'm
    done with my workout and I feel a lot of stiffness, soreness, and
    tightness. I also have ITB issues and wonder if that could be
    contributing to my back problems? And yesterday when running (and I've
    noticed this before as well), I had a weird pain in the back of my
    knees like a little "x", really tigt and somewhat disconcerting. So,
    fellow rec running group users, any and all advice is greatly
    appreciated!

    ~Dondi

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    I have had issues with mid- and lower-back pain recently that have
    probably occurred while running, but I've only noticed them when I'm
    done with my workout and I feel a lot of stiffness, soreness, and
    tightness. I also have ITB issues and wonder if that could be
    contributing to my back problems? And yesterday when running (and I've
    noticed this before as well), I had a weird pain in the back of my
    knees like a little "x", really tigt and somewhat disconcerting. So,
    fellow rec running group users, any and all advice is greatly
    appreciated!

    ~Dondi

    The only time I get back pain if when my running gait is off. Sometimes
    during the run I just don't feel "natural" in how I'm moving, like the
    running motion is forced or off somehow - that's typically when I'll get
    weird muscle injuries.

    You might try warming up differently or warming up a little longer.

  3. dandelion said:

    I have had issues with mid- and lower-back pain recently that have
    probably occurred while running, but I've only noticed them when I'm
    done with my workout and I feel a lot of stiffness, soreness, and
    tightness. I also have ITB issues and wonder if that could be
    contributing to my back problems? And yesterday when running (and I've
    noticed this before as well), I had a weird pain in the back of my
    knees like a little "x", really tigt and somewhat disconcerting. So,
    fellow rec running group users, any and all advice is greatly
    appreciated!

    ~Dondi

    oh yeah, i have very similar things going on. a few ideas:

    the mid and low back pain is often due to weak core muscles. if you
    can do some abdominal exercises, different ones that hit the upper and
    lower abs, as well as the obliques, should help. i find that if i
    neglect to do core exercises, my running form becomes poor, i slouch
    or lean weird, the back hurts... you see the process here.

    then there is the ITB thing... i have suffered from that for years,
    and only in the past year or so have i really gotten it under control.
    the key is to find the ITB stretch that really works for you. i tried
    some and they didn't quite do it, but one particular one got results.
    aggressive treatment of the problem is necessary: rest, ice, and so
    on, but i also got into ROLLING the tissues of the hurting areas. some
    people use a product called The Stick (search it on the web), but i
    improvise with a rolling pin. start out slow and easy to warm up the
    area, then apply more and more pressure (it'll hurt), but once you
    find the "target", you can focus on that until the pain subsides.

    i also cut back on mileage for a couple of years, focusing on 5 and
    10k's and triathlons (with 10k run max), staying within my limits and
    the injury calmed right down. i also stopped running on ice and snow
    in winter training... instead, i used a treadmill. i think that really
    helped.

    also, i learned that ITBS is often happening in conjunction with the
    condition called piriformis - which is a pain in the butt... really.
    it's a band of tissue that travels up the top of the leg and into the
    gluteus; it, like the ITB, can be massaged/rolled and treated to
    relieve and eliminate pain. my ITBS is virtually gone, with only tiny
    reminders now and then. the piriformis seems to hang around, and
    affects my one hip and often the low and mid back. but there are a few
    good stretches that i do regularly, both before and after runs and
    sometimes on days off for the pirif.

    not sure about the back of the knees thing you mention. anyone else?

    best of luck,

    Cam

  4. dandelion said:

    I have had issues with mid- and lower-back pain recently that have
    probably occurred while running, but I've only noticed them when I'm
    done with my workout and I feel a lot of stiffness, soreness, and
    tightness. I also have ITB issues and wonder if that could be
    contributing to my back problems? And yesterday when running (and I've
    noticed this before as well), I had a weird pain in the back of my
    knees like a little "x", really tigt and somewhat disconcerting. So,
    fellow rec running group users, any and all advice is greatly
    appreciated!

    My first guess would be that tight, shortened hamstrings are the
    issue. Tight hamstrings can really screw up your lower back. They can
    be caused by bad habits like sitting too much and wearing high heels.

    Try lying on your back, leg outstretched, put a towel around your
    foot, keep leg straight (without locking the knee), point leg toward
    ceiling if you can (don't force it), and stretch out the hamstring.
    Repeat on the other leg. You should feel the tension release in your
    lower back. If you're more ambitious and know yoga, try doing repeated
    sets of the downward dog position.

    Also try this test: stand with your back against the wall. Can you get
    your hand between your lower back and the wall? There should be a
    gentle curve. If there isn't - if your back is flat and has no curve,
    then try a modified cobra: lie on your stomach and gently, gently
    raise yourself up on your elbows - don't go any farther than your
    elbows; it's okay if you only raise up a few inches initially.
    Concentrate on relaxing your buttocks muscles while you do this - do
    not tense them. This should be a mostly comfortable move; back pain
    may move around and concentrate itself in the middle of your back as
    you do it. That is a good sign. This move restores the natural curve.
    Do both of these moves on a daily basis.

    Finally, my PT once explained to me that often it's not the running
    that causes the back problems - it's what we do AFTER the run. For
    example, if after your run - when your muscles are most fatigued and
    susceptible to injury- you tend to flop on the couch or sit at a desk
    and slouch your back, this could be the problem.

    jen

  5. A jogger babbling about soreness is like a drunk whining about having to
    pee all the time.

  6. dandelion said:

    I have had issues with mid- and lower-back pain recently that have
    probably occurred while running, but I've only noticed them when I'm
    done with my workout and I feel a lot of stiffness, soreness, and
    tightness. I also have ITB issues and wonder if that could be
    contributing to my back problems? And yesterday when running (and I've
    noticed this before as well), I had a weird pain in the back of my
    knees like a little "x", really tigt and somewhat disconcerting. So,
    fellow rec running group users, any and all advice is greatly
    appreciated!

    ~Dondi

    Trash the nikes, and get Adidas.

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