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  1. Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k (new classic brownies)
    and
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o (supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri

  2. maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k (new classic brownies)
    and
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o (supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri

    I think the writer is just adding unnecessary steps for the sake of
    making it complicated. (Complicated == Sophisticated).

    Bob

  3. maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(new classic brownies)
    andhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri


    That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. There is no
    advantage to cooling in a water bath. I guess it would speed it up,
    but why bother!! That's what racks were invented for.

  4. merryb said:


    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(new classic brownies)
    andhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri


    That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. There is no
    advantage to cooling in a water bath. I guess it would speed it up,
    but why bother!! That's what racks were invented for.

    Theoretically it might prevent the core from continuing to bake and
    therefore make for a more chewy-gooey brownie, something that could
    probably also be accomplished more easily with a shorter bake at a
    higher temp. In general though - silly.

    Pete C.

  5. merryb said:
    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(new classic brownies)
    andhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri


    That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. There is no
    advantage to cooling in a water bath. I guess it would speed it up,
    but why bother!! That's what racks were invented for.

    It looks like silly [censored] to me, too. God bless 'em, this is the same
    type of nonsense that make us believe "professional" domestic kitchens
    are indispensable!

  6. maxine in ri said:


    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    There are lots of variations of brownies and the results vary a lot. My
    personal favourite is the one in Joy of Cooking for Cockaigne Brownies,
    rich, chocolatey and a little chewy (if made in a large pan than the recipe
    calls for.

    Quoted message said:

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Some cooks are funny about things. Buttering parchment paper sounds like
    overkill. There should not be any reason to butter parchment paper. It is
    silicone treated to make it non stick.

    Quoted message said:


    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k (new classic brownies)
    and
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o (supernatural brownies)

    maxine in ri

  7. Pete C. said:
    merryb said:
    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(newclassic brownies)
    andhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernaturalbrownies)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    maxine in ri


    That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. There is no
    advantage to cooling in a water bath. I guess it would speed it up,
    but why bother!! That's what racks were invented for.

    Theoretically it might prevent the core from continuing to bake and
    therefore make for a more chewy-gooey brownie, something that could
    probably also be accomplished more easily with a shorter bake at a
    higher temp. In general though - silly.

    Pete C.

    That's sort of what I was thinking, that it had to do with the way the
    sugar cooled to make a textural difference, but then don't we have
    something that's not really a brownie?<g>

    maxine in ri

  8. Dave Smith said:
    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    There are lots of variations of brownies and the results vary a lot. My
    personal favourite is the one in Joy of Cooking for Cockaigne Brownies,
    rich, chocolatey and a little chewy (if made in a large pan than the recipe
    calls for.

    Quoted message said:

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Some cooks are funny about things. Buttering parchment paper sounds like
    overkill. There should not be any reason to butter parchment paper. It is
    silicone treated to make it non stick.

    I might think that the butter inside the parchment would make a
    difference in the outer shell of the brownie, but the stuff between
    the parchnment and the pan makes no sense whatsoever!
    Unless it's a leftover instruction from when they made them with foil
    only, or waxed paper or something.

    maxine in ri

  9. Dave Smith said:
    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    There are lots of variations of brownies and the results vary a lot. My
    personal favourite is the one in Joy of Cooking for Cockaigne Brownies,
    rich, chocolatey and a little chewy (if made in a large pan than the recipe
    calls for.

    Quoted message said:

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Some cooks are funny about things. Buttering parchment paper sounds like
    overkill. There should not be any reason to butter parchment paper. It is
    silicone treated to make it non stick.

    Quoted message said:

    No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(new classic brownies)
    and
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernatural brownies)

    Quoted message said:

    maxine in ri- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    That's my favorite recipe, also. I like to add a cup or so of
    chocolate chips to the batter. I have also been known to pipe a few
    lines of raspberry jam on the top & then draw a knife thru to disperse
    a little.

  10. maxine in ri said:


    Dave Smith said:
    maxine in ri said:

    Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    There are lots of variations of brownies and the results vary a lot. My
    personal favourite is the one in Joy of Cooking for Cockaigne Brownies,
    rich, chocolatey and a little chewy (if made in a large pan than the recipe
    calls for.

    Quoted message said:

    Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Some cooks are funny about things. Buttering parchment paper sounds like
    overkill. There should not be any reason to butter parchment paper. It is
    silicone treated to make it non stick.

    I might think that the butter inside the parchment would make a
    difference in the outer shell of the brownie, but the stuff between
    the parchnment and the pan makes no sense whatsoever!
    Unless it's a leftover instruction from when they made them with foil
    only, or waxed paper or something.

    maxine in ri

    Butter between the parchment and pan makes more sense than butter
    between the brownie and the parchment. The parchment is already
    non-stick so on the brownie side it should be just fine. The butter on
    the pan side serves to adhere the parchment to the pan so that the
    parchment doesn't move around or have the brownie batter leak under it.

    Pete C.

  11. maxine in ri said:


    Pete C. said:
    merryb said:

    On Apr 11, 9:09 am, "maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    > ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    > chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    > white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    > baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Quoted message said:

    > Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    > pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Quoted message said:

    > No, I'm not going to post them. Go look for yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    >http://preview.tinyurl.com/3asf8k(newclassic brownies)
    > andhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/2wqo8o(supernaturalbrownies)

    Quoted message said:

    > maxine in ri
    That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. There is no
    advantage to cooling in a water bath. I guess it would speed it up,
    but why bother!! That's what racks were invented for.

    Theoretically it might prevent the core from continuing to bake and
    therefore make for a more chewy-gooey brownie, something that could
    probably also be accomplished more easily with a shorter bake at a
    higher temp. In general though - silly.

    Pete C.

    That's sort of what I was thinking, that it had to do with the way the
    sugar cooled to make a textural difference, but then don't we have
    something that's not really a brownie?<g>

    maxine in ri

    Don't know about a hard definition for a brownie, after all they have
    those "flourless cakes" which are more like aerated scrambled eggs than
    cakes in reality.

    Pete C.

  12. Pete C. said:
    maxine in ri said:
    Dave Smith said:

    maxine in ri wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Glancing at the NYT brownie recipes printed today,I noticed that the
    > ratios of flour, and eggs are the same, but one uses bittersweet
    > chocolate and 40% of the sugar than the other (also, it's brown, not
    > white), and the latter uses a water bath to cool the brownies after
    > baking, along with unsweetened chocolate and twice the butter..

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are lots of variations of brownies and the results vary a lot. My
    personal favourite is the one in Joy of Cooking for Cockaigne Brownies,
    rich, chocolatey and a little chewy (if made in a large pan than the recipe
    calls for.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Why the rapid chill? Why does the other recipe call for buttering the
    > pan, laying in parchment, and buttering the parchment also?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some cooks are funny about things. Buttering parchment paper sounds like
    overkill. There should not be any reason to butter parchment paper. It is
    silicone treated to make it non stick.

    Quoted message said:

    I might think that the butter inside the parchment would make a
    difference in the outer shell of the brownie, but the stuff between
    the parchnment and the pan makes no sense whatsoever!
    Unless it's a leftover instruction from when they made them with foil
    only, or waxed paper or something.

    Quoted message said:

    maxine in ri

    Butter between the parchment and pan makes more sense than butter
    between the brownie and the parchment. The parchment is already
    non-stick so on the brownie side it should be just fine. The butter on
    the pan side serves to adhere the parchment to the pan so that the
    parchment doesn't move around or have the brownie batter leak under it.

    Pete C.

    Ok, that solves that mystery. Thanks!
    maxine

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