Putting on weight

In article said:

I have started running after a couple of years being very sedentary using Sam Murphy's "Run for
life" book, which I am getting on very well with and am six weeks into her programme.

I weighed the other day and have put on a few pounds - is the running responsible?

Many thanks

That's called a two pound difference in weight measurements, not a two pound weight gain. There are
a lot of factors that could account for this, and running would not be among the more likely
candidates.

BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
repectively more/less calories than you burn. So if your level of activity increases and your food
intake stays the same, your weight will actually drop. If your food intake increases moderately to
match your level of activity, your weight will stay the same, but your body composition will
probably change (that is, you become leaner)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
repectively more/less calories than you burn.
________

Are you sure Donovan? I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while
taking in less calories than you burn. In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as
you reduce fat mass. The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the
muscle mass...which is something that actually weighs more than fat mass...and results in a net
weight gain.

It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive the
weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased muscle
mass and weight gain. No?

In article said:

BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking in
repectively more/less calories than you burn.
________

Are you sure Donovan?

Absolutely.

Quoted message said:

I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while taking in less calories
than you burn.

No, you can't. The above is similar to a bodybuilders pre-contest diet -- what will happen is that
you'll lose weight, but hopefully hang on to some lean tissue.

Quoted message said:

In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as you reduce fat mass.

This is actually only true for those in the "rapid beginner gains" phase. For someone who's been
lifting for a while, it's very difficult to lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time. Usually,
beginners to weight lifting actually stay at about the same weight, unless they are fairly
overweight or very thin (and eat a lot).

Quoted message said:

The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the muscle mass...which is
something that actually weighs more than

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Quoted message said:

fat mass...and results in a net weight gain.

^^^^^^^^^^

What do you mean by this ? fat is less dense, so what happens to those who have improved body
composition is they get smaller but weight the same ("firm up"😉

Quoted message said:

It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive
the weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased
muscle mass and weight gain. No?

In the bodybuilding world, they never try to gain mass and lose fat at the same time. They take in
plenty of calories, and then "cut up" close to contest time.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

I told you he was a know-nothing idiot.. Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll, a convincing one with his
phony studies and websites (which he no doubt builds himself) but a troll nonetheless. Even a
non-runner would suspect he's full of it. TBR

Donovan Rebbechi said:

In article said:

BTW, it's impossible to gain or lose weight (besides water, which is short term) without taking
in repectively more/less calories than you burn.
________

Are you sure Donovan?

Absolutely.

Quoted message said:

I believe you can go on a low cal, high protein diet and gain weight while taking in less
calories than you burn.

No, you can't. The above is similar to a bodybuilders pre-contest diet -- what will happen is that
you'll lose weight, but hopefully hang on to some lean tissue.

Quoted message said:

In a weight training regime you simply build muscle mass as you reduce fat mass.

This is actually only true for those in the "rapid beginner gains" phase. For someone who's been
lifting for a while, it's very difficult to lose fat and gain muscle mass at the same time.
Usually, beginners to weight lifting actually stay at about the same weight, unless they are fairly
overweight or very thin (and eat a lot).

Quoted message said:

The negative calorie intake reduces the fat, the protien intake builds the muscle mass...which is
something that actually weighs more than

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Quoted message said:

fat mass...and results in a net weight gain.

^^^^^^^^^^

What do you mean by this ? fat is less dense, so what happens to those who have improved body
composition is they get smaller but weight the same ("firm up"😉

Quoted message said:

It's also very common within the body building world. The error/flaw in assuming calories drive
the weight gain when in fact if you're weight training...the protien will drive the increased
muscle mass and weight gain. No?

In the bodybuilding world, they never try to gain mass and lose fat at the same time. They take in
plenty of calories, and then "cut up" close to contest time.

Cheers,

In article said:

I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

a convincing one with his phony studies

You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.

Quoted message said:

and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)

And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue with a trolll ...

Quoted message said:

Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.

Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners viewpoint.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

Roger, this man is another edu poster ... are you going to give him the Ashby treatment maybe?
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Quoted message said:

In article said:

I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

a convincing one with his phony studies

You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.

Quoted message said:

and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)

And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue

with

Quoted message said:

a trolll ...

Quoted message said:

Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.

Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners

viewpoint.

Quoted message said:

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

See, like I said, a BS artist.

Donovan Rebbechi said:

In article said:

I told you he was a know-nothing idiot..

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

Ignore realbitchy, he's a troll,

Oh, the irony

Quoted message said:

a convincing one with his phony studies

You're still upset about that time I could support my arguments and you couldn't.

Quoted message said:

and websites (which he no doubt builds himself)

And you still think I built the pubmed website on nih.gov just to argue with a trolll ...

Quoted message said:

Even a non-runner would suspect he's full of it.

Well I concede that you are the resident expert on the non-runners viewpoint.

Cheers,

Jonathan Sydenham said:

Roger, this man is another edu poster ... are you going to give him the Ashby treatment maybe?

In america we call it an atomic-wedgie.