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  1. Does anybody know how to identify the year a Hardrock bike was made? I went on their website, but
    their big advice was to take it to a dealer and maybe, just maybe, one of the guys there will
    remember it from looking at the color.

    thanks,

    Pat in TX

  2. i will mock anyone making *THE JOKE* well into the next decade. when it's this obvious and this easy
    it's just not funny.
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  3. Quoted message said:

    i will mock anyone making *THE JOKE* well into the next decade. when it's this obvious and this
    easy it's just not funny.

    Mock away, I think anyone who wants to date their bicycle is out for the wrong sort of ride or
    desparate :-Þ

    Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove
    dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$

  4. Pat at [email hidden] wrote on 11/5/03 6:57 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    Does anybody know how to identify the year a Hardrock bike was made? I went on their website, but
    their big advice was to take it to a dealer and maybe, just maybe, one of the guys there will
    remember it from looking at the color.

    ...and what was the color?

  5. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anybody know how to identify the year a Hardrock bike was made? I


    went

    Quoted message said:

    on their website, but their big advice was to take it to a dealer and


    maybe,

    Quoted message said:

    just maybe, one of the guys there will remember it from looking at the color.

    thanks,

    Pat in TX


    The only surefire way would be a serial number method..but I doubt anyone has that info. Got a
    picture? That's a start. If there is a Specialized dealer near you with good records you might be
    able to narrow down the date based on their existing records of bikes around that era.

    Cheers,

    Scott..

  6. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Mock away, I think anyone who wants to date their bicycle is out for the wrong sort of ride or
    : desparate :-)

    helen s. check.
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:



    The only surefire way would be a serial number method..but I doubt anyone has that info. Got a
    picture? That's a start. If there is a Specialized dealer near you with good records you might be
    able to narrow down the


    date

    Quoted message said:

    based on their existing records of bikes around that era.

    Cheers,

    Scott..

    I do have the serial number, but it is confusing. This bike is a weird color green with pink
    Hardrock on the down tube. Well, I shouldn't call it a bike. It is a frame with a rear derailleur. I
    am considering whether it is worth the trouble to buy parts and build up a bike using this frame,
    that's all. I have used google and I have written Specialized with no luck.

    Here is what is written on the bottom bracket:

    B1 0196SP WBK K M8GN23205

    It has Shimano Altus rear derailleur. I am wondering if it was made in 1996, but that's
    just a guess.

    Pat in TX

  8. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I do have the serial number, but it is confusing. This bike is a weird


    color

    Quoted message said:

    green with pink Hardrock on the down tube. Well, I shouldn't call it a


    bike.

    Quoted message said:

    It is a frame with a rear derailleur. I am considering whether it is


    worth

    Quoted message said:

    the trouble to buy parts and build up a bike using this frame, that's all. I have used google and
    I have written Specialized with no luck.

    Here is what is written on the bottom bracket:

    B1 0196SP WBK K M8GN23205

    It has Shimano Altus rear derailleur. I am wondering if it was made in


    1996,

    Quoted message said:

    but that's just a guess.

    Pat in TX

    It's been a while, but if you've got green and pink, I'm guessing it was before 1996..more like 1990
    or so. The Hardrock wasn't a great bike..middle of the road. It's certainly better than a Huffy and
    I've always liked Specialized bikes (they have nice handling, IMHO, for my type of riding..). But
    it's not a gem or anything.

    Cheers,

    Scott..

  9. Pat at [email hidden] wrote on 11/6/03 7:54 AM:

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:



    The only surefire way would be a serial number method..but I doubt anyone has that info. Got a
    picture? That's a start. If there is a Specialized dealer near you with good records you might be
    able to narrow down the


    date

    Quoted message said:

    based on their existing records of bikes around that era.

    Cheers,

    Scott..

    I do have the serial number, but it is confusing. This bike is a weird color green with pink
    Hardrock on the down tube. Well, I shouldn't call it a bike. It is a frame with a rear derailleur.
    I am considering whether it is worth the trouble to buy parts and build up a bike using this
    frame, that's all. I have used google and I have written Specialized with no luck.

    Here is what is written on the bottom bracket:

    B1 0196SP WBK K M8GN23205

    It has Shimano Altus rear derailleur. I am wondering if it was made in 1996, but that's just
    a guess.

    Not a '96 - I'd bet with the color scheme (ugly green and pink), you're looking very early ninties.
    IIRC, the late 80's stuff was Suntour derailleured.

    Is the name in script or block print? I think they dropped the script in '93.

    Is the rear brake by any chance mounted underneath the rear chain stays? That'd put it back in
    the late 80's

    Do the tubes join diretly together with a visble weld seam, or do they go into a lug?

    Hardrock was the intro level bike (ignoring the "Streetjumper" or "Streetsweeper" or whatever that
    damned thing was). I _might_ put it together out of parts bin stuff or cast-off freebies, but I
    don't know if I'd put any money into it unless I had to.

    Hit up all your riding buddies for extra bits and cobble it together...

    -- Jim

  10. Jim Edgar <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : "Streetsweeper" or whatever that damned thing was).

    yea, ummm, a "streetsweeper" is a semiautomatic shotgun.
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Jim Edgar <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : "Streetsweeper" or whatever that damned thing was).

    yea, ummm, a "streetsweeper" is a semiautomatic shotgun.

    It's also a vehicle operated by the city to get the sand out of the bike lanes on a road <GGG>.

    --
    Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying!

    REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

  12. David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
    : It's also a vehicle operated by the city to get the sand out of the bike lanes on a road <GGG>.

    never seen one of those. ;-)
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  13. Quoted message said:

    Is the name in script or block print? I think they dropped the script in '93.

    block print that is pink and has shadings in it like fine lines

    Quoted message said:


    Is the rear brake by any chance mounted underneath the rear chain stays? That'd put it back in the
    late 80's

    No, it's a cantilever brake.

    Quoted message said:


    Do the tubes join diretly together with a visble weld seam, or do they go into a lug?

    No lugs

    and on the chain stay it has the words "direct drive"

    Pat

  14. David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:
    Quoted message said:

    yea, ummm, a "streetsweeper" is a semiautomatic shotgun.


    It's also a vehicle operated by the city to get the sand out of the bike lanes on a road <GGG>.

    That's just a legend. Like the sasquatch...no sightings have been proven. 😉
    --
    Rick Onanian

  15. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    No lugs

    and on the chain stay it has the words "direct drive"

    Pat

    Yeah, that sounds early 90's to me. The direct drive thing was a square (rectangle?) chainstay
    deal, total marketing!! But I liked the geometry. Not a bad bike..but not great. A beater or
    commuter I'd say.

    Cheers,

    Scott..

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:
    Quoted message said:

    yea, ummm, a "streetsweeper" is a semiautomatic shotgun.


    It's also a vehicle operated by the city to get the sand out of the bike lanes on a road <GGG>.

    That's just a legend. Like the sasquatch...no sightings have been proven. 😉

    I have _personally_ seen one, once. Didn't catch it on video, though, so I can't prove it <Grin>.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Rick Onanian

    --
    Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying!

    REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

  17. Pat at [email hidden] wrote on 11/7/03 2:36 PM:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is the name in script or block print? I think they dropped the script in '93.

    block print that is pink and has shadings in it like fine lines

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is the rear brake by any chance mounted underneath the rear chain stays? That'd put it back in
    the late 80's

    No, it's a cantilever brake.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do the tubes join diretly together with a visble weld seam, or do they go into a lug?

    No lugs and on the chain stay it has the words "direct drive"

    So, block print, no V-brakes (but not a U-brake), TIG welded.... I'm guessing '93 or maybe '92...not
    a year that I have a catalog from.

    -- Jim

  18. S. Anderson at [email hidden] wrote on 11/7/03 2:39 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    No lugs

    and on the chain stay it has the words "direct drive"

    Pat

    Yeah, that sounds early 90's to me. The direct drive thing was a square (rectangle?) chainstay
    deal, total marketing!! But I liked the geometry. Not a bad bike..but not great. A beater or
    commuter I'd say.

    Direct Drive was the designation that the frame used butted (as opposed to straight-guage) tubing
    for the rear triangle.

    -- jim

  19. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Pat
    > >

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The only surefire way would be a serial number method..but I doubt anyone has that info. Got a
    picture? That's a start. If there is a Specialized dealer near you with good records you might be
    able to narrow down the


    date
    Quoted message said:

    based on their existing records of bikes around that era.

    Cheers,

    Scott..



    I do have the serial number, but it is confusing. This bike is a weird color green with pink
    Hardrock on the down tube. Well, I shouldn't call it a bike. It is a frame with a rear derailleur. I
    am considering whether it is worth the trouble to buy parts and build up a bike using this frame,
    that's all. I have used google and I have written Specialized with no luck.

    Here is what is written on the bottom bracket:

    B1 0196SP WBK K M8GN23205

    It has Shimano Altus rear derailleur. I am wondering if it was made in 1996, but that's
    just a guess.

    Pat in TX

    It's amazing to me that the folks at Specialized can't or won't be more of a help. Its hard to believe that they wouldn't be able to nail the model year with a serial # and perhaps a photo.

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