Jaja does Ironman

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dwayne said:

21st place in Swiss Ironman:

http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

It's so sad when a once-great athlete succumbs to triathlism.

Oh well, at least it's not RAAM,

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"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dwayne said:

21st place in Swiss Ironman:

Quoted message said:

http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

It's so sad when a once-great athlete succumbs to triathlism.

Oh well, at least it's not RAAM,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older. Running is a young persons sport, or at
least for those with young joints. RAAM should be THE event for ex-
hippies gone clean. All the hallucinations you can handle, no drugs
involved, and legal too.
Bill C

Quoted message said:

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older. Running is a young persons sport, or at
least for those with young joints. RAAM should be THE event for ex-
hippies gone clean. All the hallucinations you can handle, no drugs
involved, and legal too.
Bill C

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I find myself leaving the bike inside, and taking a 2 hour run more and
more. Two reasons, shoe technology has made it possible, and you get a
bigger buzz out of it. I tried running years ago, and always ended up
getting hurt, but no more, because of the shoes. The shoes make all of the
difference in the world, sometimes I run just for how they feel. I use to
think marathons were hard, now they're easy. I'm not going faster, or
breaking any records, but I can have a normal day after the event, and not
wonder like if I screwed myself up permanently, like years ago on bad shoes.
It also helps if you have a nice place to run. There's a multi-use path
near where I live, and if you don't have to smell auto exhaust it really
enhances the experience. But it's the "shoes", if you aren't willing to
invest in some good ones, forget it, because it'll just be the torture most
people think it is. And unlike bike shoes, they have shoes for every type
of foot, and it's quite technical, so you have to get the right kind. I
have high arches, and I was amazed they had a model for that one. So do
some research before you buy, it makes all the difference.

My question on Jaja is, was he clean?

Bill C said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Dwayne said:

21st place in Swiss Ironman:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

Quoted message said:

It's so sad when a once-great athlete succumbs to triathlism.

Quoted message said:

Oh well, at least it's not RAAM,

Quoted message said:

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older.

Dumbass -

If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Ever hear of osteoporosis?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Dwayne said:

21st place in Swiss Ironman:

http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

Was there any Testing?

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

Bill C said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Dwayne <[email hidden]> wrote:
> 21st place in Swiss Ironman:

Quoted message said:

>http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

Quoted message said:

It's so sad when a once-great athlete succumbs to triathlism.

Quoted message said:

Oh well, at least it's not RAAM,

Quoted message said:

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older.

Dumbass -

If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Ever hear of osteoporosis?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Right you are

You have to stress the bones or they melt away when you get my age, and
swallow lots of alendronic acid

So stay active

Ride lots - piccy taken 3 weeks ago
http://azurservers.com/rbr/jun02.jpg

and turning the clock back 50++ years, here's Davey as a Member of the
UK Schools International Cross Country squad - middle, back row -
quality is poor because it was scanned from an old newspaper more than
half a century old
http://azurservers.com/rbr/1951UKCC.jpg

and the payoff:

[cite]
From: "Doctor Pamela Mark" <pamela.mark@_____.com>
Subject: Bone density

I'm sure that you had given up on me getting your reports to you. I had
to wait for my "technical services" to finish school and bring the
scanner back home again.

As you will see, the clinic changed the machine since your last BMD.
Hence, the reports cannot be compared. It would appear that you are no
longer osteoporotic. There are a few ways of looking at this. One is
that the measurements are variable (even with using the same machine)
and that you may still have osteoporosis. Another is that you have
responded very well to the alendronate/Fosamax and your bone density has
improved. I believe that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I
suggest that you stay on the alendronate for now and that we repeat your
BMD in a year's time or when you next visit Toronto.

I hope that this is satisfactory to you.

Yours truly,

Pam
[/cite]

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

Bill C said:

On Jun 26, 8:56 pm, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

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Dwayne <[email hidden]> wrote:
> 21st place in Swiss Ironman:

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>http://tinyurl.com/2fyq7n

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's so sad when a once-great athlete succumbs to triathlism.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oh well, at least it's not RAAM,

Quoted message said:

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--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Quoted message said:

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older.

Dumbass -

If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Ever hear of osteoporosis?

thanks,

K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text -

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Hey dumbass
Ever hear of non, or low impact weight bearing activities?
Bill C

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Ever hear of osteoporosis?

Hey dumbass
Ever hear of non, or low impact weight bearing activities?
Bill C

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I don't get your point. low impact means eventually your bones will lose
their density, not a good thing. Like old people, they fall down and break
a hip or whatever. The problem with space travel, is too much bone loss,
due to the lack of gravity. He is correct, running is good for the bones,
cycling is bad for the bones. You only have to run once a week to get your
body to take of those bones.

On Jun 27, 6:40 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ever hear of osteoporosis?

Hey dumbass
Ever hear of non, or low impact weight bearing activities?
Bill C

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I don't get your point. low impact means eventually your bones will lose
their density, not a good thing. Like old people, they fall down and break
a hip or whatever. The problem with space travel, is too much bone loss,
due to the lack of gravity. He is correct, running is good for the bones,
cycling is bad for the bones. You only have to run once a week to get your
body to take of those bones.

I think i agree with most of what Calli says. Plus running (that is,
during a good run) gets you into this ethereal state of mind that you
can never ever get with cycling (well maybe with pot belge and high
altitude you can get close).

bar said:

On Jun 27, 6:40 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> If you manage it properly, it's good for you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Ever hear of osteoporosis?
Hey dumbass
Ever hear of non, or low impact weight bearing activities?
Bill C

Quoted message said:

----------
I don't get your point. low impact means eventually your bones will lose
their density, not a good thing. Like old people, they fall down and break
a hip or whatever. The problem with space travel, is too much bone loss,
due to the lack of gravity. He is correct, running is good for the bones,
cycling is bad for the bones. You only have to run once a week to get your
body to take of those bones.

I think i agree with most of what Calli says. Plus running (that is,
during a good run) gets you into this ethereal state of mind that you
can never ever get with cycling (well maybe with pot belge and high
altitude you can get close).

It's the weight bearing stress that's important:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/osteoporosis/HQ00643

Movements to avoid
Mild bone deterioration without osteoporosis shouldn't interfere with
recreation. In fact, activities such as golf and bowling may be
beneficial. But if you have osteoporosis, don't do the following types
of exercises:

High-impact exercises, such as jumping, running or jogging. These
activities increase compression in your spine and lower extremities
and can lead to fractures in weakened bones. Avoid jerky, rapid
movements in general. Try to move in a slow and controlled manner.

http://www.csp.org.uk/director/physiotherapyexplained/features/osteoporosis.cfm

Managing osteoporosis
If you suffer from osteoporosis, it is important to exercise in order
to reduce the risks of falls and fractures. Exercise can also assist
in improving postural deformity.
Continue with low impact activities, for example brisk walking and low
impact aerobics
Carry out high intensity strength training
Carry out specific balance training exercises. Tai Chi is a good
balance exercise, which could be incorporated into a falls prevention
programme
Look out for falls classes in your local area
Avoid exercises that involve rotation and flexion such as bending down
to touch your toes and twisting activities
Contact your local chartered physiotherapist to discuss suitable
exercises. They may be able to provide you with a demonstration to
ensure you carry out the exercises correctly.

Bill C

Callistus Valerius said:

My question on Jaja is, was he clean?

They don't administer Drug Tests to Triathletes. Only IQ Tests.

Bill

Quoted message said:

It's the weight bearing stress that's important:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/osteoporosis/HQ00643

Movements to avoid
Mild bone deterioration without osteoporosis shouldn't interfere with
recreation. In fact, activities such as golf and bowling may be
beneficial. But if you have osteoporosis, don't do the following types
of exercises:

High-impact exercises, such as jumping, running or jogging. These
activities increase compression in your spine and lower extremities
and can lead to fractures in weakened bones. Avoid jerky, rapid
movements in general. Try to move in a slow and controlled manner.

http://www.csp.org.uk/director/physiotherapyexplained/features/osteoporosis.
cfm

Quoted message said:

Managing osteoporosis
If you suffer from osteoporosis, it is important to exercise in order
to reduce the risks of falls and fractures. Exercise can also assist
in improving postural deformity.
Continue with low impact activities, for example brisk walking and low
impact aerobics
Carry out high intensity strength training
Carry out specific balance training exercises. Tai Chi is a good
balance exercise, which could be incorporated into a falls prevention
programme
Look out for falls classes in your local area
Avoid exercises that involve rotation and flexion such as bending down
to touch your toes and twisting activities
Contact your local chartered physiotherapist to discuss suitable
exercises. They may be able to provide you with a demonstration to
ensure you carry out the exercises correctly.

Bill C

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I can only speak for myself, but running more than twice a week is bad, but
running at least once a week is good. This assumes you have good shoes. A
lot people use tennis shoes or the like, which is bad. But you'd be amazed
at how the new shoes reduce impact, that is what I noticed. Like most
things in life, balance is usually best, for the over all feeling of well
being. If I do just pure cycling, with a mix of intervals, and endurance,
eventually I develop strange aches and pains in my body, and it seems a good
run will straighten those out. And besides, I gotta get that high, at least
once a weak.

On Jun 27, 9:37 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's the weight bearing stress that's important:

Quoted message said:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/osteoporosis/HQ00643

Quoted message said:

Movements to avoid
Mild bone deterioration without osteoporosis shouldn't interfere with
recreation. In fact, activities such as golf and bowling may be
beneficial. But if you have osteoporosis, don't do the following types
of exercises:

Quoted message said:

High-impact exercises, such as jumping, running or jogging. These
activities increase compression in your spine and lower extremities
and can lead to fractures in weakened bones. Avoid jerky, rapid
movements in general. Try to move in a slow and controlled manner.

http://www.csp.org.uk/director/physiotherapyexplained/features/osteop....
cfm

Quoted message said:

Managing osteoporosis
If you suffer from osteoporosis, it is important to exercise in order
to reduce the risks of falls and fractures. Exercise can also assist
in improving postural deformity.
Continue with low impact activities, for example brisk walking and low
impact aerobics
Carry out high intensity strength training
Carry out specific balance training exercises. Tai Chi is a good
balance exercise, which could be incorporated into a falls prevention
programme
Look out for falls classes in your local area
Avoid exercises that involve rotation and flexion such as bending down
to touch your toes and twisting activities
Contact your local chartered physiotherapist to discuss suitable
exercises. They may be able to provide you with a demonstration to
ensure you carry out the exercises correctly.

Quoted message said:

Bill C

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I can only speak for myself, but running more than twice a week is bad, but
running at least once a week is good. This assumes you have good shoes. A
lot people use tennis shoes or the like, which is bad. But you'd be amazed
at how the new shoes reduce impact, that is what I noticed. Like most
things in life, balance is usually best, for the over all feeling of well
being. If I do just pure cycling, with a mix of intervals, and endurance,
eventually I develop strange aches and pains in my body, and it seems a good
run will straighten those out. And besides, I gotta get that high, at least
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That's cool. I'd still love to run occasionally and plan to when I can
do Cross. I'll still suck and with my knees it's a bad idea, but it
does give you something that other activities don't.
It took a while to dig this out of faulty wteware, but it's what I
was thinking of with the older athletes doing Ironman stuff:

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report.cfm?Thread_ID=389&topcategory=

The training volume it seems to take to do a marathon, and especially
an Ironman, is a huge amount of pounding and I'd doubt that any of us
here don't at least have tendonitis issues at least.
Bill C

Bill C

Quoted message said:

I don't get the concept of wanting to increase your running to obscene
distances as you get older. Running is a young persons sport, or at
least for those with young joints. RAAM should be THE event for ex-
hippies gone clean. All the hallucinations you can handle, no drugs
involved, and legal too.
Bill C

Check out the Ultra Marathon Running Association too. They are quite
active with a sizeable monthly newsletter. Anyhow, it's very rare to
see any one under 30 at ultra running events. The median age is 50 to
55.

My take on the Ultra sports is they are for those who have killed off
their nerve endings and aren't aware of the pain. Young people are
too sensitive and can't handle it. The other factor is having the
patience to go sloooooooow.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:28:00 +0200, Davey Crockett
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Ride lots - piccy taken 3 weeks ago
http://azurservers.com/rbr/jun02.jpg

Where was that taken - Toulon?

Bill C said:

bar said:

On Jun 27, 6:40 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

>> If you manage it properly, it's good for you.
>> Ever hear of osteoporosis?
> Hey dumbass
> Ever hear of non, or low impact weight bearing activities?
> Bill C
----------
I don't get your point. low impact means eventually your bones will lose
their density, not a good thing. Like old people, they fall down and break
a hip or whatever. The problem with space travel, is too much bone loss,
due to the lack of gravity. He is correct, running is good for the bones,
cycling is bad for the bones. You only have to run once a week to get your
body to take of those bones.

I think i agree with most of what Calli says. Plus running (that is,
during a good run) gets you into this ethereal state of mind that you
can never ever get with cycling (well maybe with pot belge and high
altitude you can get close).

It's the weight bearing stress that's important:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/osteoporosis/HQ00643

Movements to avoid
Mild bone deterioration without osteoporosis shouldn't interfere with
recreation. In fact, activities such as golf and bowling may be
beneficial. But if you have osteoporosis, don't do the following types
of exercises:

Or just choose the Tour de France breakfast:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132

That's pure calcium in the syringe on the right. Or maybe not.

Greg
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http://ticketmastersucks.org

Andrew Price said:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:28:00 +0200, Davey Crockett
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Ride lots - piccy taken 3 weeks ago
http://azurservers.com/rbr/jun02.jpg

Where was that taken - Toulon?

Place General de Gaulle, Antibes, 06

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Andrew Price said:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:28:00 +0200, Davey Crockett
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Ride lots - piccy taken 3 weeks ago
http://azurservers.com/rbr/jun02.jpg

Where was that taken - Toulon?

Ah, now I see why you asked

The van has an 83 (Var) plaque, but must have just been another firkin
tourist 😉 😉

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Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Where was that taken - Toulon?

Ah, now I see why you asked

The van has an 83 (Var) plaque, but must have just been another firkin
tourist 😉 😉

Exactly !
(nice shot, btw)