You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
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Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
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I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!...
How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
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Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
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I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
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you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!...
How do we do that w[h]e[n] you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
Correction above. I should know better than to post in the middle of the night when suffering from insomnia.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time,
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post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later
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in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
-------------- From years of reading Usenet posts, I would like to share some observations that I have made. Regardless of what group, but more specifically technical groups, when I suddenly observe links to photos of Albert Einstein, or quotes from Albert Einstein, then a firestorm of ugliness in the group will shortly follow. The original Star Trek series, had a lot of episodes of the dangers of people with superior intellect, have on the community.
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone.... Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough. I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!...
How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
pointless red herring.
and just so you know, trying to say that "tom sherman" is the identity of the person posting under that name, even if that poster were to cite an address with pics, ssn and d/l, and there is indeed a verifiable "tom sherman" at that location, means nothing. there's no way, on usenet, that it's possible to definitively connect the name with the poster. not unless you have access to federal security systems. and even then, you'd pretty much have to fingerprinted and keylogged at that physical machine since zombies and the like make remote control such a breeze. get real, "tom", or whatever your name is.
"Plonkmaster" wrote: > You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to > retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup > users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we > post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone.... > Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what > happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these > or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough. > I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts > with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're > all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be > in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to > treat him as we would like to be treated. you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!...
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How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
pointless red herring.
and just so you know, trying to say that "tom sherman" is the identity of the person posting under that name, even if that poster were to cite an address with pics, ssn and d/l, and there is indeed a verifiable "tom sherman" at that location, means nothing. there's no way, on usenet, that it's possible to definitively connect the name with the poster. not unless you have access to federal security systems. and even then, you'd pretty much have to fingerprinted and keylogged at that physical machine since zombies and the like make remote control such a breeze. get real, "tom", or whatever your name is
Right on point and very well said.
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
On Jun 27, 1:13 am, "jim beam" wrote: > "Plonkmaster" wrote: >> You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to >> retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup >> users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we >> post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone.... >> Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what >> happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these >> or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough. >> I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts >> with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're >> all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be >> in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to >> treat him as we would like to be treated. > you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your > delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a > spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply > kill any thread in which you see my name!...
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How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
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pointless red herring.
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and just so you know, trying to say that "tom sherman" is the identity of the person posting under that name, even if that poster were to cite an address with pics, ssn and d/l, and there is indeed a verifiable "tom sherman" at that location, means nothing. there's no way, on usenet, that it's possible to definitively connect the name with the poster. not unless you have access to federal security systems. and even then, you'd pretty much have to fingerprinted and keylogged at that physical machine since zombies and the like make remote control such a breeze. get real, "tom", or whatever your name is
Right on point and very well said.
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
I bet the bastewarde doesn't even regularly eat mackerels!
On Jun 27, 8:21 am, jim beam <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Johnny Sunset wrote: > On Jun 27, 1:13 am, "jim beam" wrote: >> "Plonkmaster" wrote: >>> You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to >>> retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup >>> users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we >>> post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone.... >>> Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what >>> happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these >>> or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough. >>> I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts >>> with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're >>> all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be >>> in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to >>> treat him as we would like to be treated. >> you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your >> delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a >> spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply >> kill any thread in which you see my name!...
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> How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
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pointless red herring.
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and just so you know, trying to say that "tom sherman" is the identity of the person posting under that name, even if that poster were to cite an address with pics, ssn and d/l, and there is indeed a verifiable "tom sherman" at that location, means nothing. there's no way, on usenet, that it's possible to definitively connect the name with the poster. not unless you have access to federal security systems. and even then, you'd pretty much have to fingerprinted and keylogged at that physical machine since zombies and the like make remote control such a breeze. get real, "tom", or whatever your name is
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Right on point and very well said.
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I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
I bet the bastewarde doesn't even regularly eat mackerels!
Dans le message de news:[email hidden], Callistus Valerius <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
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You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
-------------- From years of reading Usenet posts, I would like to share some observations that I have made. Regardless of what group, but more specifically technical groups, when I suddenly observe links to photos of Albert Einstein, or quotes from Albert Einstein, then a firestorm of ugliness in the group will shortly follow. The original Star Trek series, had a lot of episodes of the dangers of people with superior intellect, have on the community.
No kidding ?????!!!!!!!!
-- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine *******
La vie, c'est comme une bicyclette, il faut avancer pour ne pas perdre l'équilibre. -- Einstein, A.
Dans le message denews:[email hidden], Callistus Valerius <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
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From years of reading Usenet posts, I would like to share some observations that I have made. Regardless of what group, but more specifically technical groups, when I suddenly observe links to photos of Albert Einstein, or quotes from Albert Einstein, then a firestorm of ugliness in the group will shortly follow. The original Star Trek series, had a lot of episodes of the dangers of people with superior intellect, have on the community.
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast customer?
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast customer?
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast customer?
"Plonkmaster" wrote: > You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always > hope to > retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup > users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short > time, we > post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone.... > Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control > what > happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, > these > or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long > enough. > I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts > with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that > we're > all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or > later be > in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little > bit to > treat him as we would like to be treated.
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jim beam said:
you don't have to like what i say, much less read it. and if your delicate sensibilities are wounded by the temerity to call a spade a spade, save yourself and follow your own advice, plonkmaster - simply kill any thread in which you see my name!...
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Johnny Sunset said:
How do we do that we you ("jim beam"😉 go by a pseudonym???
jim beam said:
pointless red herring.
and just so you know, trying to say that "tom sherman" is the identity of the person posting under that name, even if that poster were to cite an address with pics, ssn and d/l, and there is indeed a verifiable "tom sherman" at that location, means nothing. there's no way, on usenet, that it's possible to definitively connect the name with the poster. not unless you have access to federal security systems. and even then, you'd pretty much have to fingerprinted and keylogged at that physical machine since zombies and the like make remote control such a breeze. get real, "tom", or whatever your name is.
Your point is logical. In this instance, I actually know Tom Sherman. -- Figment of Imagination www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
Because it's his email address maybe?
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
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Johnny Sunset said:
For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast customer?
Ozark Bicycle said:
Yer a friggin' genius. Putz.
I wrote essentially the same thing as Tom. I guess I still don't get it. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
You know, as ethereal and impersonal as usenet is, I still always hope to retain some measure of humanity when dealing with my fellow newsgroup users. Regardless of our differences, we are all here for a short time, we post our messages, then *[censored]* we're gone....
Along that journey try as we might, is there any real way to control what happens as we grow old? Tourettes syndrome, Alzheimers, Senility, these or other raveages of old age will encumber us all, if we live long enough.
I'd like to hope that before any of us again replies to Jim Beams posts with vehemence, disgust, or scorn, that we could keep in mind that we're all humans here just riding it all out. Each of us will sooner or later be in Jim's situation some day, and we should try at least a little bit to treat him as we would like to be treated.
Gotta wonder if the 'tone' would be the same if all the players were there in person..doubt it..or else some would end up on the floor..
BTW-anybody know how to block specific writers on Google groups? A couple of authors come to mind during this thread.....
On Jun 27, 8:30 am, "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: > I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through Brandt's > whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: Brandt wants to > get into a "credentials" pissing contest with anyone who dares > disagree with him. Why else would he use the pretentious, totally > irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting email?
Johnny Sunset said:
For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast customer?
Ozark Bicycle said:
Yer a friggin' genius. Putz.
I wrote essentially the same thing as Tom. I guess I still don't get it.
Which part? The email? If so, here's my take: I'm sure there are many here who belong to alumni societies, and many of those have an email from that organization. Most who do, use those email addys for communication *within* the alumni society and with other alumnus. Brandt seems to be alone in using it here. Email addys are a dime a dozen today, many with great features and boundless storage. IMO, Brandt uses the "stanford alumni.org" addy as a part of his Usenet MO of obnoxious, overbearing, dismissive technical "superiority". IOW, it's meant to impress and intimidate. YMMV.
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> On Jun 27, 8:30 am, "Ozark Bicycle" wrote: >> I'm surprised that anyone is so dense as not to see through >> Brandt's whole "identity" schtick. It's really quite simple: >> Brandt wants to get into a "credentials" pissing contest with >> anyone who dares disagree with him. Why else would he use the >> pretentious, totally irrelevent "stanfordalumni.org" posting >> email? Johnny Sunset <[email hidden]> wrote: > For the same reason Carl Fogel is so proud of being a Comcast > customer?
Ozark Bicycle said:
Yer a friggin' genius. Putz.
I wrote essentially the same thing as Tom. I guess I still don't get it.
Which part? The email? If so, here's my take: I'm sure there are many here who belong to alumni societies, and many of those have an email from that organization. Most who do, use those email addys for communication *within* the alumni society and with other alumnus. Brandt seems to be alone in using it here. Email addys are a dime a dozen today, many with great features and boundless storage. IMO, Brandt uses the "stanford alumni.org" addy as a part of his Usenet MO of obnoxious, overbearing, dismissive technical "superiority". IOW, it's meant to impress and intimidate. YMMV.
