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  1. I'm thinking of drilling my rim.

    I've got a 48 hole 24" BX-38 rim on my QU-AX. I want to drill it
    because it can save some weight and drilled rims look pretty cool, in
    my opinion.

    Now, how much weight would I really save? And how much strength would I
    lose? I do a lot of trials riding on this uni, including sets and
    drops(Up to a meter, but I'll probably go bigger later on). Do you
    think it's worth the trouble?

    Are there any good tutorials?

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  2. Ok, there are several problems with just drilling your rim.

    1. Because you have a 48h rim, the holes you drill will have to be
    really small, making weight savings minimal.

    2. Unless you have access to a skilled machinist who has done work on
    bike and uni rims before you will lose considerable strength. I'm no
    expert on the subject, but I can tell you that by just taking a drill
    to your rim you will lose lots of strength (the double walls will be
    messed up by your drill, making the rim weak).

    3. You will have to take apart your wheel (unlace it) and then re-lace
    it afterwards.

    4. Because weight savings will be so small, and strength will be
    compromised, I do not suggest doing this.

    Someone with a little more metal knowledge will pitch in with some more
    technical reasons not to drill the rim, but there you go.

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    usually always


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  3. Lots of little holes have been known to take off more weight than a
    handful of big holes. There are more places on a rim to make small
    holes.

    That said, and having drilled many rims myself, I have yet to explore
    the reaming out of the outer wall of any rim. I usually limit my metal
    removal to internal surfaces. Example:

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  4. wow, that's pretty cool to look at.

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  5. That's a really cool rim, unisk8r!

    How strong is it?

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  6. just over 1000g. If you think a 700c tube in your coker makes a diff,
    you can feel this lighter rim even more. Drilling a smaller rim will
    not result in as much weight reduction tho.

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  7. unisk8r said:

    just over 1000g. If you think a 700c tube in your coker makes a diff,
    you can feel this lighter rim even more. Drilling a smaller rim will
    not result in as much weight reduction tho.

    Wo is that an airfoil? I presumed that it was some sort of bike rim but
    your comments amde me look again, how much weight did you save?

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  8. I tried to work out how much weight was saved from my my drilled rim on
    my 07 kh 20 I think I worked out it saved 30g although I may have been
    wrong, il work it out agin later.

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  9. I am sure that the 07 KH rims are not just drilled. Rather, they were
    pre made heavy, with the intent to be drilled. There was a lot of
    thought put into this.
    Uniskaters rim appears elegantly done, and makes sense as a racers
    mod. It is still not what it could be, strengthwise , had this drilling
    been preplanned by the rim designer.
    If you like the look, get a 07 KH rim, rather than drilling one
    yourself. For general use, drilling a rim will be a lot of work, and it
    will weaken the rim a lot.🙁

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  10. Okay, I'll just leave it the way it is.

    Then, one day, I'll buy myself a nifty KH trials.

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  11. For best results on weight saving, get a single wall rim, drill large
    holes equidistant between the spokes, and then parallel lines of
    smaller holes each side. If you have no brakes on the uni, more weight
    can be saved by drilling the sidewalls too. Then use a tubeless tyre.
    I also like to file down my nipples, but that's not really relevant in
    a unicycling forum.

    If you know a dentist, (s)he may also be able to drill the spokes,
    although that can be fiddly. For maximum weight saving, a single
    longitudinal hole, effectively making the spoke hollow, is best.
    However, several transverse holes may be easier unless your dentist has
    a steady hand.

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  12. Mikefule said:

    For best results on weight saving, get a single wall rim, drill large
    holes equidistant between the spokes, and then parallel lines of
    smaller holes each side. If you have no brakes on the uni, more weight
    can be saved by drilling the sidewalls too. Then use a tubeless tyre.
    I also like to file down my nipples, but that's not really relevant in
    a unicycling forum.

    If you know a dentist, (s)he may also be able to drill the spokes,
    although that can be fiddly. For maximum weight saving, a single
    longitudinal hole, effectively making the spoke hollow, is best.
    However, several transverse holes may be easier unless your dentist has
    a steady hand.

    You could just not ride the unicycle, but instead, run... 😉

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  13. Borgschulze said:

    You could just not ride the unicycle, but instead, run... 😉

    I will do, once I've drilled my laces.

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  14. Bike trials riders drill thier rims by themselfs all the time. Though
    yes thought into design might help strength, its not going to matter
    that much. Just keep in mind the more metal you take away the weaker it
    will get. I suggest marking the holes first so they dont come out off
    center. It doesnt have to be unlaced either to drill it.

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  15. From what I hear you'll save about 50g. thats a much as a chocolate bar,
    would strapping one of them onto your uni realy efect anything?
    correct me if i'm wrong

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  16. Yeah I thought of getting a drilled rim for the uni I am building, but
    then decided for that minimal amount of weight I will save vs. strength
    I'll just [censored] before I ride to get the same affect probably better.

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  17. Drill bits and labor aren't free. Pete's drilled rim makes sense because
    he has taken the best quality rim available and then made it a bit
    lighter, because he was willing to put lot's of work into trading
    strength he didn't need for lightness he wanted.
    In general use, it would be much better IMHO to buy a very high
    quality stock wheel, and only drill as a last resort.
    Let's say you are a lighter then most super rider trying to set a
    new level of greatness with a super more spins crank flip. Buying a KH
    and drilling it extensively would be the ticket. 🙂 Ti spokes, drilled
    cranks and rim. Or maybe custom light cranks (carbon ?), certainly the
    lightest pedals, then drill them to.
    It would seem that unicycling crankflips and funny car dragsters have
    little in common. In both cases light isn't just right, it is the only
    way. To strong is to heavy. Just right is light. 🙂

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  18. 🙄 will people be drilling holes in clothes anytime soon?

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    dunawan said:

    why are koxx one unicycles so costly???

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    They are expensive because they use only the finest soft drink cans.

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  19. thejdw said:

    🙄 will people be drilling holes in clothes anytime soon?

    Haven't you heard? Everyone's going nude these days, and all the good
    riders shave their heads.

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  20. Yeah, they even get small bits of their bodies cut out. Like pancreas
    and spleen.

    And their teeth and bones hollowed out in a special procedure. It's
    quite expensive, but the weight savings are incredible!

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