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  1. I am no in my second Coker Muni season. I drive only Coker on bumpy
    roads on gravel. Here in Norway it is a lot of climbs. What I have
    realised is that my bearings last shorter and shorter. I have now two
    Cokers. One Hunter/Liwevire and one Nimbus. On both my wheels I use SKF
    bearings. Before I used NBK. I was a bit disappointed as it now seems
    that I must replace the bearings at 980km. I think its because of all
    the climbing as you get a pressure on the side of the bearings compared
    to only tarmac and flat land Cokering. The gravel is also not flat, as
    the wheel will bend from one side to another. I do not over tighten the
    bolts on the frame. I have also tried to repack the bearings with
    grease, but it last only a short while. Anyone else had problem with
    bearings with Coker Muni? How often must you replace bearings?

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  2. In what way are the bearings failing?
    Is the outer race getting sloppy (you can wiggle the outer and inner
    races back and forth)?
    Is it getting packed with dirt and crud?
    Is the grease getting washed out?

    Open up one of the failed bearings and see what it looks like inside.
    You can pop off a seal from the bearing using small pointy tools. Then
    you can see if the bearing is full of dirt or maybe something is broken
    inside (like one of the ball bearings or the cage that the ball
    bearings fit in).

    Are you using metal shield or plastic/rubber shield bearings?

    For muni use I have found that expensive bearings aren't worth it.
    Dirt and crud destroy the bearing too quickly. The only time that
    expensive bearings might be useful would be for an expert level indoor
    freestyle unicycle or a road Coker going for a world record. Otherwise
    the generic bearing (with plastic/rubber shield) will do the job just
    fine.

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  3. I use the SKF bearings with plastic/rubber shield. When I cycle I can
    feel the wheel is being hold back when the bearing is damaged. Like the
    brake is a little on, then after some while it is rolling fine again.
    Then after a while again the bearing not roll god and the wheel starts
    to brake. I only Unicycle in god weather. Of course it is some dust,
    but I don't think that is the problem. When I take of the wheel the
    outer race is a little sloppy.

    A friend (not Unicyclist) told me these bearings was not god on sideway
    pressure and give me a tips to use Spherical roller bearings. But after
    some reading I cant find that the Spherical bearings are made to fit
    the 17-mm ID, 40-mm OD Coker bearings.

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  4. I get many thousands of km on a set of Coker bearings. The exception was
    on my original Coker in 1999 - they shipped with unsealed (open on one
    side) bearings and I only got 1500km on them but I remember people
    riding in wetter climates only got 200-300km on them.

    I do a mix of road and offroad riding, but lots of climbing either way.
    In fact my original Dave Stockton wheel from 2003 has now been on NUT,
    AUT, LUT and leaving today for MUT. Plus at least 3000-4000km of other
    riding. All on the original bearings. I am not positive which type they
    are though. It's all packed so I can't look. I think SKF.

    ---Nathan

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  5. unijuul said:

    I use the SKF bearings with plastic/rubber shield. When I cycle I can
    feel the wheel is being hold back when the bearing is damaged. Like the
    brake is a little on, then after some while it is rolling fine again.
    Then after a while again the bearing not roll god and the wheel starts
    to brake. I only Unicycle in god weather. Of course it is some dust,
    but I don't think that is the problem. When I take of the wheel the
    outer race is a little sloppy.

    Hey man, feel free to pry off the covers and squeeze some grease into
    the bearings, pushing out the dirt etc. Then pop the covers back on.

    unijuul said:

    A friend (not Unicyclist) told me these bearings was not god on sideway
    pressure and give me a tips to use Spherical roller bearings. But after
    some reading I cant find that the Spherical bearings are made to fit
    the 17-mm ID, 40-mm OD Coker bearings.

    I've spent many, many, many hours scouring the bearing info for a better
    bearing solution for different uni situations and, at this point, there
    isn't one. In fact, your bearings are spherical single row deep groove
    bearings, which are a kindof mid-compromise bearings that handle both
    axial and radial loads in an ok way. Bear also in mind that more
    exotic solutions get _very_ expensive _very_ fast (read: cost more than
    your complete unicycle).

    However, there should be minimal sideways pressure on your bearings. I
    adjusted your frame carefully to match the bearing width to eliminate
    that kind of pressure. However, perhaps there have been some
    not-gentle crashes!

    nathan said:

    I do a mix of road and offroad riding, but lots of climbing either way.
    In fact my original Dave Stockton wheel from 2003 has now been on NUT,
    AUT, LUT and leaving today for MUT. Plus at least 3000-4000km of other
    riding. All on the original bearings. I am not positive which type they
    are though. It's all packed so I can't look. I think SKF.

    Should be. Good luck Nathan and crew! And AJ too, from Austin!

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  6. I have no Crashes on my new Unicycle. A couple of UPD, but have managed
    to take the Unicycle in the handle before it got the ground. I think
    maybe I could fasten the frame a bit looser, but on my first ride it
    was to lose and I had to tighten it a bit more.

    What kind of SKF bearings do you recommend to use? I find 10 types of
    17*40 bearings on SKF's web site.

    98203
    6203*
    6203 ETN9
    6203-2RSH*
    6203-2RSL*
    6203-2Z*
    6203-RSH*
    6203-RSL*
    6203-Z*
    62203-2RS1

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  7. These same type, quality of bearings (just different size) I have used
    in motorcycles. Failures are rare, even at 50, 000 + miles. Actually, I
    have never had a failure, just a notchy feeling, so I replace the
    bearing while I change the motorcycle tire, only if it feels like it
    has a stick spot while moving it with my finger.🙂
    Follow John's advice on installing the bearing. I am almost certain
    that you are damaging it while putting it on.😎

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