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  1. Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like to re
    address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    Again....WHY are some people considering his hiring as a bad move for Trek? Ive heard its because he
    likes to ride motocross as well as bicycles. But unless he's poaching the MTB trails on his Honda
    after he puts his MTB away, is that really a valid reason? I dunno...I know a few guys who do both
    and they follow the "rules" of riding and enjoying both disciplines better than anyone.

    Any other ideas? I admit that I havent read every word Zap's written, but from what I have, he seems
    for the most part to be on the right track and not just some hack.

  2. "RkFast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like to re
    address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

  3. "RkFast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like to re
    address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    Again....WHY are some people considering his hiring as a bad move for Trek? Ive heard its because
    he likes to ride motocross as well as bicycles. But unless he's poaching the MTB trails on his
    Honda after he puts his MTB away, is that really a valid reason? I dunno...I know a few guys who
    do both and they follow the "rules" of riding and enjoying both disciplines better than anyone.

    Any other ideas? I admit that I havent read every word Zap's written, but from what I have, he
    seems for the most part to be on the right track and not just some hack.

    I've read a number of his columns; he does make it clear of his love for the motorized world, but he
    also knows his MTB's just as fluently as any of the so called "know it all's" on this group.

    He stirred up alot of controversy with name calling type issues aimed towards the free riders, but
    other then that, I think he's just as much a mountain biker as anyone else.

  4. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "RkFast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like to
    re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

    Great Brit imitation, you just don't have the look to go along with it

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    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in


    their

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    cages, Id like to re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for


    in

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    the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

    Thank you for the contribution to the discussion, JD!

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I've read a number of his columns; he does make it clear of his love for the motorized world, but
    he also knows his MTB's just as fluently as any of the so called "know it all's" on this group.

    He stirred up alot of controversy with name calling type issues aimed towards the free riders, but
    other then that, I think he's just as much a mountain biker as anyone else.

    Gracias.

  7. RkFast said:


    Again....WHY are some people considering his hiring as a bad move for Trek?

    He's a moron?

    I put his rants of "bike computers make a bike ugly" and "wearing gloves is dressing to crash" as
    moron speak.

    Barry

  8. RkFast said:

    ...WHY are some people considering his hiring as a bad move for Trek?

    Back when Howard Cosell was a sports announcer (wa-a-ay back in time, for those of you born in the
    80's), through the entire duration of his career, he was simultaneously the most popular and the
    most complained- about personality on TV. He was, in short, a lightning rod. Where there was
    controversy, he stirred it. Where there was none, he created it.

    Zap is the same kind of character. I haven't read much of his stuff. I've never subscribed to any of
    the magazines he worked for. Hell, I wouldn't wipe my ass with Mountain Bike Action...

    Zap is a rabble rouser. He has opinions, but as the expression goes, like *other things* everybody
    has one of those. His real characteristic is that he doesn't just stop at stating his opinion, he
    slags on other people's opinions. If you tend to agree with him, you probably think he's pretty
    cool. If you don't, you probably think he's a jag-off.

    He's also one of those people who seem drawn to publicity the way flies are drawn to fresh
    horseshit. And he definitely has a nasty side. I say that because I read his interview in _Dirt Rag_
    in which he comes off like, well, a nasty SOB, IMHO.

    Working for Trek as Brand Manager, this guy will need to build consensus. Which means that he'll
    have to avoid becoming the enemy of most of the people he needs to work with. This could prove
    challenging, unless his nastiness is just a pose, a way to get his picture in the magazines.

    He's probably not going to be "famous" as a Brand Manager. He might ocassionally be quoted in the
    trades, but if he's making the trades in a story about who he has most recently [censored], he's
    probably not going to be successful. And if what he really wants out of life is to be some kind of
    celebrity, this job won't get him there. Which means that he might not do it very well. Which means
    that he might not last.

    We'll see.
    --
    Tom Purvis - arkansasvalley.nettpurvis Salida, CO

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    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like to
    re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

    Great Brit imitation, you just don't have the look to go along with it

    Give up your Rocket Scientist career now, doofski:

    X-Admin: [email hidden] From: [email hidden] (MTBScottie) Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date: 21
    Oct 2003 11:31:20 GMT Organization: AOL aol.comaol.com Subject: Shut the hell up and ride!
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Top 20 posters by number of articles
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    Now what is it that the Motorhead look-alike says about people who spend more time on their computer
    then riding?

    Last time I checked, Lemmy Kilmister was British. At first if you don't succeed, keep on suckin'
    until you do. In your case, you will always suck, howdie doodie.

    JD

  10. "RkFast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in


    their

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    cages, Id like to re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for


    in

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    the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

    Thank you for the contribution to the discussion, JD!

    Which was much more than your contribution to am-b, stalking troll that you are.

    JD

  11. (Tom Purvis) said:

    Zap is the same kind of character. I haven't read much of his stuff. I've never subscribed to any
    of the magazines he worked for. Hell, I wouldn't wipe my ass with Mountain Bike Action...

    Zap did Mountain Bike. Richard Cunningham is Mountain Bike Action.

  12. Ruger9 said:
    (Tom Purvis) said:

    Zap is the same kind of character. I haven't read much of his stuff. I've never subscribed to any
    of the magazines he worked for. Hell, I wouldn't wipe my ass with Mountain Bike Action...

    Zap did Mountain Bike. Richard Cunningham is Mountain Bike Action.


    New to mountain biking are you? Zap was chief mouth of the Reeking Crew at MBA in late 80s early 90s
    (dates are approx.).

  13. (Ruger9) said:
    (Tom Purvis) said:

    Zap is the same kind of character. I haven't read much of his stuff. I've never subscribed to any
    of the magazines he worked for. Hell, I wouldn't wipe my ass with Mountain Bike Action...

    Zap did Mountain Bike. Richard Cunningham is Mountain Bike Action.

    Ah, the internet. So full of children.

    Espinoza was the editor of MBA back about 10-11 years ago. Early 90's. Purple Anno years. Those of
    us who aren't 17 years old any more think of Zap as that annoying MBA goober out in L.A.
    --
    Tom "kids these days, don't know nothin' 'bout our history" Purvis Salida, CO

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    > Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id like
    > to re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed" thread.

    [censored], [censored].

    JD

    Great Brit imitation, you just don't have the look to go along with it

    Give up your Rocket Scientist career now, doofski:

    X-Admin: [email hidden] From: [email hidden] (MTBScottie) Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date: 21
    Oct 2003 11:31:20 GMT Organization: AOL aol.comaol.com Subject: Shut the hell up and ride!
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Top 20 posters by number of articles
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    1: [email hidden] (JD)........................................... : 60

    Now what is it that the Motorhead look-alike says about people who spend more time on their
    computer then riding?

    Last time I checked, Lemmy Kilmister was British. At first if you don't succeed, keep on suckin'
    until you do. In your case, you will always suck, howdie doodie.

    JD

    He sure is! Yelling and screaming nonsense just like you!

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    > "RkFast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > Now that the Mickey Mouse factor has calmed and the yahoos put back in their cages, Id
    > > like to re address the issue that I was ORIGINALLY going for in the "Espinoza has landed"
    > > thread.
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    > [censored], [censored].
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    > JD

    Great Brit imitation, you just don't have the look to go along with it

    Give up your Rocket Scientist career now, doofski:

    X-Admin: [email hidden] From: [email hidden] (MTBScottie) Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike Date:
    21 Oct 2003 11:31:20 GMT Organization: AOL aol.comaol.com Subject: Shut the hell up and
    ride! Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

    Top 20 posters by number of articles
    ============================================================================
    1: [email hidden] (JD)........................................... : 60

    Now what is it that the Motorhead look-alike says about people who spend more time on their
    computer then riding?

    Last time I checked, Lemmy Kilmister was British. At first if you don't succeed, keep on suckin'
    until you do. In your case, you will always suck, howdie doodie.

    JD

    He sure is! Yelling and screaming nonsense just like you!

    You are pathetic.

    JD

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