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Quoted message said:Dave said:
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>> A few years ago a teenager and his mate on a trials bike were killed near here.
>>
>> They were riding it along a railway line in the dark with no lights and were hit from behind
>> by a train.
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>> Perhaps its a trials bike thing?
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> Darwinism!
Always the nicest thing to say when young people have met untimely deaths
in
Quoted message said:a violent fashion, I think. No matter how poorly it reflects on the social fitness of the
speaker.
You think maybe " poor dears" might be more appropriate, Ambrose?
No.
Quoted message said:...despite the fact that their stupid irresponsible thoughtless actions could have led to far
more deaths with the derailment of the train.
That's true.
Quoted message said:I believe that it was very probably a suitable timely and violent death....
That's what I object to. I find the phrase or implication "deserve to die" abhorrent, and I loathe
the glib, complacent and smug attitude of those who use the word Darwinism in association with
death by misadventure. I find it hard to believe that the speakers haven't ever done anything
stupid enough that they trusted their life to luck
I'm sure that when they do and the luck runs out, they won't be worrying about the next smug git
around the corner murmuring 'Darwinism'...more likely to be (should there be any awareness of what
continues in this reality), nodding in agreement.
and I find the lack of
Quoted message said:empathy and thankfulness for their good fortune in that situation to be complacent. To me it's
obnoxious that someone's first reaction to hearing of two people being smashed into little bits of
blood and guts is what boils down to 'Ha! Serves you right'.
To me it's obnoxious that individuals don't follow the do as you would be done by guide to living a
socially acceptable life, but hey, that's life!!
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Natural selection amongst humans also has (in my not hugely informed interpretation) a strong but
subtler element to it, which is survival of the socially fittest,
Aaah, this explains why it currently appears that crime does pay and total lack of respect for your
fellow human is not penalised as a trait....
whereby empathy is among the desirable traits, and
Quoted message said:I'd suggest it's not lacking just in those who let themselves stupidly get run over by a train,
but also in those who would rather delight in it being someone else than feel sympathy for the
suffering involved. Of course, this effect would be very difficult to measure, but I find the
irony of it interesting.
Nope, sorry, lost me there. /HUA (head up [censored]) mode on / I am willing to dole out empathy and
sympathy by the bucketful but only if I feel the recipient is worthy of my effort. /HUA mode off /
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Quoted message said:Dave. father of 3 who loves kids to bits but despises the morass that society is sinking into
due to the lack of respect for their fellow man that is being bred into certain 'members' of
society......
True, society isn't without its problems. I'm never sure if it's the fact that kids hang around
outside intimidating people (often inadvertantly), breaking things and making a mess, or the fact
that there's no adults out there as well.
I believe (ahem!) that in the future, either our descendants or who knows, perhaps some alien
species, will study our era and consider our state of civ ilisation. I believe we will be found
wanting, because I also believe that the state of civilisation will be measured by how we interact
with our children and how we prepare them for their contribution to society. If you need to check
this view out, pop into any supermarket or town centre on a busy afternoon. Observe parents ignoring
crying children, fobbing them off when they ask questions in search of knowledge and some even
threatening violent actions if the child does not embrace their world view (i.e. - kid should stop
distracting parent with incessant talking / crying / tugging). I would love to be around when a
child finally responds in like to its parents, having been bought up using threats and possibly
physical violence as the way to teach their child what is and isn't acceptable. The child finally
responds in like and hits the parent and then the parent wonders why their offspring is such a
little [censored]...just to see that look of surprise on the parents face and hear the self-righteous
whining, believing no-one could've done a better job in raising their
child....etcetc.....err....oooops /Rant mode off /
