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  1. Original post
    Tom Nakashima
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    #1

    I have been reading the recent threads here on racks and panniers.
    My personal experience with them is they do alter the handling of the
    bike somewhat, no mater how hard I tried to balance the load, and I
    don't carry a lot of weight, but it doesn't take much to offset the balance
    of a bike. Until I was told about the Carradice Nelson Rear Bag.
    The bag fits behind the seat, and although it has a 15 liter capacity, I was
    amazed how much I could stuff into one of these bags. I also don't feel any
    balance problems even testing the bike by riding with no hands (test done
    in parking lot) when fully loaded. I also used the bag support shown in the
    picture so my legs never touch the Nelson bag.
    http://www.carradice.co.uk/saddlebags/nelson-saddlebag.shtml

    I purchased the Carradice Nelson Bag from Peter White years ago
    and been happy ever since. The side pockets are nice for quick access.
    http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp
    -tom

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  2. Dane Buson
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    Tom Nakashima said:

    I have been reading the recent threads here on racks and panniers.
    My personal experience with them is they do alter the handling of the
    bike somewhat, no mater how hard I tried to balance the load, and I
    don't carry a lot of weight, but it doesn't take much to offset the balance
    of a bike. Until I was told about the Carradice Nelson Rear Bag.

    I use the Carradice SQR touring bag myself. It's handy to able to swap
    it from mount to mount quickly. I've corrupted three of my coworkers
    and one friend. They all bought the Slim because it's shaped better for
    laptops.

    --
    Dane Buson - [email hidden]
    "I was provided with additional input that was radically
    different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that
    version."
    -Colonel Oliver North, from his Iran-Contra testimony

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  3. Tom Nakashima
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    #3

    "Dane Buson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Nakashima said:

    I have been reading the recent threads here on racks and panniers.
    My personal experience with them is they do alter the handling of the
    bike somewhat, no mater how hard I tried to balance the load, and I
    don't carry a lot of weight, but it doesn't take much to offset the
    balance
    of a bike. Until I was told about the Carradice Nelson Rear Bag.

    I use the Carradice SQR touring bag myself. It's handy to able to swap
    it from mount to mount quickly. I've corrupted three of my coworkers
    and one friend. They all bought the Slim because it's shaped better for
    laptops.

    --
    Dane Buson - [email hidden]
    "I was provided with additional input that was radically
    different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that
    version."
    -Colonel Oliver North, from his Iran-Contra testimony

    It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've tried
    them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike, must
    have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    HUMONGOUS!!!
    -tom

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  4. Tim McNamara
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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:

    "Dane Buson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Nakashima said:

    I have been reading the recent threads here on racks and panniers.
    My personal experience with them is they do alter the handling of
    the bike somewhat, no mater how hard I tried to balance the load,
    and I don't carry a lot of weight, but it doesn't take much to
    offset the balance of a bike. Until I was told about the Carradice
    Nelson Rear Bag.

    I use the Carradice SQR touring bag myself. It's handy to able to
    swap it from mount to mount quickly. I've corrupted three of my
    coworkers and one friend. They all bought the Slim because it's
    shaped better for laptops.

    It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted. I think you might just about be able to get
    a Brompton in there.

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  5. Tom Nakashima
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    "Tim McNamara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:


    It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted.

    Pineapple Bob?
    -tom

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  6. Michael Press
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    #6

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:

    "Dane Buson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Nakashima <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > I have been reading the recent threads here on racks and panniers.
    > My personal experience with them is they do alter the handling of
    > the bike somewhat, no mater how hard I tried to balance the load,
    > and I don't carry a lot of weight, but it doesn't take much to
    > offset the balance of a bike. Until I was told about the Carradice
    > Nelson Rear Bag.

    I use the Carradice SQR touring bag myself. It's handy to able to
    swap it from mount to mount quickly. I've corrupted three of my
    coworkers and one friend. They all bought the Slim because it's
    shaped better for laptops.

    It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted. I think you might just about be able to get
    a Brompton in there.

    A cubic foot is 1728 in^3.

    --
    Michael Press

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  7. Tom Nakashima
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    #7

    "Michael Press" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:


    It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted. I think you might just about be able to get
    a Brompton in there.

    A cubic foot is 1728 in^3.
    Michael Press

    I have 26.4 liters = 1611.027 cubic inches.
    So I'd say he's off by a few nuts.
    -tom

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  8. Tom Nakashima
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    #8


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    > tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    > must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    > seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    > was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    > HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted. I think you might just about be able to get
    a Brompton in there.

    I found a photo of a bike with a Rivendell Hoss bag mounted:
    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3882/1390/1600/CIMG00021.JPG
    and another commuter with a Hoss:
    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/100/1050/1600/Joe_fishingtrip.jpg
    I'm curious to know how the bike balances when fully loaded...Tim?
    -tom

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  9. Michael Press
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    #9

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:

    "Michael Press" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once you've
    > tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a road bike,
    > must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a Rivendell Hoss rear
    > seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it
    > was named after Hoss Cartwright in the TV series Bonanza...
    > HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson, maybe
    almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk of my Volvo.
    It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches or 4,788 peanuts.
    Apparently someone counted. I think you might just about be able to get
    a Brompton in there.

    A cubic foot is 1728 in^3.

    I have 26.4 liters = 1611.027 cubic inches.
    So I'd say he's off by a few nuts.

    Shelled or unshelled?

    --
    Michael Press

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  10. Tim McNamara
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    #10

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:

    "Michael Press" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Tim

    McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once
    > you've tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a
    > road bike, must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a
    > Rivendell Hoss rear seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a
    > Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it was named after Hoss Cartwright in
    > the TV series Bonanza... HUMONGOUS!!!

    It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson,
    maybe almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk
    of my Volvo. It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic inches
    or 4,788 peanuts. Apparently someone counted. I think you might
    just about be able to get a Brompton in there.

    A cubic foot is 1728 in^3. Michael Press

    I have 26.4 liters = 1611.027 cubic inches. So I'd say he's off by a
    few nuts.

    That's actually pretty funny, given the opinion that many folks have of
    Rivendell.

    Passing over that, I hauled out my Hoss last evening and I'd swear it's
    bigger than that by quite a bit, but I'll have to stuff it with
    something to fill it out and then measure. It's easily double the size
    of my Carradice Nelson. The Hoss is so big, in fact, that it's a bit
    awkward to use. You could do an overnight camping trip with the thing.

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  11. Tim McNamara
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    #11

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Nakashima said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tim McNamara <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Tom Nakashima" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > > It's pretty easy to get corrupt to the Carradice Bags once
    > > you've tried them. A few years ago I saw this tiny gal riding a
    > > road bike, must have been about a 48cm frame, carrying a
    > > Rivendell Hoss rear seat bag. I'm not sure if you ever seen a
    > > Rivendell Hoss Bag, but it was named after Hoss Cartwright in
    > > the TV series Bonanza... HUMONGOUS!!!
    >
    > It is immense. About more than twice the capacity of a Nelson,
    > maybe almost two Campers. Mine seems nearly as big as the trunk
    > of my Volvo. It's friggin' huge. 26.4 liters or 1612 cubic
    > inches or 4,788 peanuts. Apparently someone counted. I think you
    > might just about be able to get a Brompton in there.

    I found a photo of a bike with a Rivendell Hoss bag mounted:
    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3882/1390/1600/CIMG00021.JPG

    I think that's my friend Kevin's bike before it was repainted.

    Quoted message said:

    and another commuter with a Hoss:
    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/100/1050/1600/Joe_fishingtrip.jpg
    I'm curious to know how the bike balances when fully loaded...Tim?

    As you can see from the photo, the weight sticks out fairly far back.
    Tends to make the front end feel light, bit you can minimize that by
    putting the heavy stuff forward and the light stuff towards the back.
    The flat, level bottom makes it easy to do that compared to a Carradice
    mounted in the standard way. Stuff is very unlikely to fall out of it.

    You can put a lot of stuff in one of these- I did a grocery run with one
    and had probably almost 20 pounds, which made the bike feel sluggish and
    top heavy, and the steering felt pretty light. It's cavernous and
    there's a tendency to fill it up because you can. But with reasonable
    loads it feels just like a Carradice back there.

    One caveat, though. With a Carradice you can use a standoff between the
    seat post the the bag to keep it off the back of your legs. There are a
    number of photos of this kind of thing on the 'net. Jobst made one from
    wood and used a toe strap to secure it; I tried that but it tended to
    fall out, so I rigged up a restraint but it was still less than ideal.
    I made one from a section of PVC tube with the toe strap running inside
    the PVC, around the seatpost and through the loop on the bag. I see in
    recent photos that Jobst has switched to a threadless stem clamped to
    the seatpost with a doohickey on the end for mounting the bag. It looks
    like it wouldn't swing at all. These sorts of things really aren't
    possible with the Hoss, you've just got to deal with the bag brushing
    your legs.

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