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  1. From:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

    <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
    including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
    manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
    the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>

    Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
    children, perhaps?

    <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
    the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
    in Friday editions.>

    "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
    this"?

    <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
    it.">

    "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux

    < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
    hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
    followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
    the past and confess what needs to be confessed."

    Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
    the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
    time to decide.">

    A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
    nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y

  2. Quoted post said:

    From:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

    <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
    including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
    manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
    the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>

    Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
    children, perhaps?

    <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
    the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
    in Friday editions.>

    "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
    this"?

    <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
    it.">

    "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux

    < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
    hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
    followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
    the past and confess what needs to be confessed."

    Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
    the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
    time to decide.">

    A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
    nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y

    Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
    rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
    slander that'll come from Pound on this.
    That would be the first step in creating a reasonable environment
    surrounding this whole mess. Now the riders need to form a real union,
    support each other, and force the UCI and Wada to treat them like
    human beings.
    Bill C

  3. Bill C said:
    Quoted post said:

    From:

    Quoted message said:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

    Quoted message said:

    <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
    including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
    manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
    the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>

    Quoted message said:

    Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
    children, perhaps?

    Quoted message said:

    <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
    the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
    in Friday editions.>

    Quoted message said:

    "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
    this"?

    Quoted message said:

    <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
    it.">

    Quoted message said:

    "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux

    Quoted message said:

    < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
    hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
    followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
    the past and confess what needs to be confessed."

    Quoted message said:

    Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
    the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
    time to decide.">

    Quoted message said:

    A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
    nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y

    Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
    rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
    slander that'll come from Pound on this.

    dumbass,

    you are obsessed with [censored] pound.

    maybe you should stop looking for a scapegoat for cycling's
    problems ?

    there is some (but not a lot of) merit to the idea that pound's
    attitude created the climate that led to the LNDD mess, but even that
    is a stretch.

    [censored] pound didn't make the telekom riders dope and then admit it this
    past week and he didn't bust festina or the madrid lab.

  4. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:

    From:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

    <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
    including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
    manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
    the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>

    Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
    children, perhaps?

    <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
    the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
    in Friday editions.>

    "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
    this"?

    <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
    it.">

    "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux

    < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
    hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
    followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
    the past and confess what needs to be confessed."

    Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
    the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
    time to decide.">

    A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
    nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y

    As long as amnesty extends to those who say nothing.

    --
    Michael Press

  5. Michael Press said:

    As long as amnesty extends to those who say nothing.

    A second breeze, sweet as morning after a stormy night.

    Next: Enforceable rules? IOW, "Don't outlaw what you can't test for"?

    Now there would be something even better than Omerta! (opinion) --D-y

  6. On Jun 1, 3:25 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bill C said:

    On Jun 1, 12:19 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
    including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
    manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
    the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
    children, perhaps?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
    the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
    in Friday editions.>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
    this"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
    it.">

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
    hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
    followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
    the past and confess what needs to be confessed."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
    the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
    time to decide.">

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
    nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y

    Quoted message said:

    Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
    rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
    slander that'll come from Pound on this.

    dumbass,

    you are obsessed with [censored] pound.

    maybe you should stop looking for a scapegoat for cycling's
    problems ?

    there is some (but not a lot of) merit to the idea that pound's
    attitude created the climate that led to the LNDD mess, but even that
    is a stretch.

    [censored] pound didn't make the telekom riders dope and then admit it this
    past week and he didn't bust festina or the madrid lab.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Not just Pound. I have problems in general with dictatorial,
    egomaniacal, [censored] who only choose to persecute the weakest. He's
    still looking for those FIFA names in Puerto, and any sign of
    wrongdoing in the IOC that he couldn't find, right?
    Bill C

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