whoa

Per John Forrest Tomlinson:

Quoted message said:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?
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Quoted message said:

Per John Forrest Tomlinson:

Quoted message said:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Chimping! Very professional.

Greg
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Pete Cresswell writes:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Pretty darned sure that's a clincher. Do people roll clinchers?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Quoted message said:

Pete Cresswell writes:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Jobst Brandt

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at the
bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder if
that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Some folks actually do run clinchers in major races.

Oh, and is it not about time the UCI did something useful,
such as mandating black cycling shorts?

--
Michael Press

cafin8 said:

damyth said:

Quoted message said:

Pete Cresswell writes:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Jobst Brandt

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at the
bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder if
that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

I had almost same problem recently, but more catastrophically and
with rear tire, its the spokes where tightened too much. Here is a
picture of my bike after wheel failure:

http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/files/2007/05/dustinkentbike2.jpg

Ride it home, didja? LOL

damyth said:

Quoted message said:

Pete Cresswell writes:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Jobst Brandt

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at the
bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder if
that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

I had almost same problem recently, but more catastrophically and with rear
tire, its the spokes where tightened too much. Here is a picture of my bike
after wheel failure:

http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/files/2007/05/dustinkentbike2.jpg

In article <[email hidden]>,

G.T. said:

"(PeteCresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Per John Forrest Tomlinson:

Quoted message said:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Chimping! Very professional.

Greg

Now, now, he could be selecting Custom Function 2, so that his
auto-bracketing program works just right.

Nah, he's chimping. And eating his photog bib too, for some reason...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimping

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no shorts would be a crowd pleaser

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Quoted message said:

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder
if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Quoted message said:

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder
if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

Dear Jobst,

I see a curved spoke at 5:30, presumably from a rim bent sideways, and
some green rim tape pulled up onto the far side of the rim, presumably
from when the clincher tire came off:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

What do you see that shows a split in the rim?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.j
pg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Quoted message said:

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture.
Wonder if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made
of glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this
looks like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had
them here when Mavic introduced the trend..

Looks like the rim is broken in two at the 5:30 position (right in the
middle of the "A" on the sign behind the rider, the ends of the rim
overlap by a few cm) and you can see the tire and inner tube hagning off
the fork crown; I think the rim strip is still partially on the rim. My
guess is that either he hit something that caused the rim to break or it
broke in the crash (e.g., got run over by someone or jammed into a
barricade- is the "Hyperion" a carbon fiber rim?).

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

Quoted message said:

>> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Quoted message said:

> Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
> rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Quoted message said:

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder
if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

Dear Jobst,

I see a curved spoke at 5:30, presumably from a rim bent sideways, and
some green rim tape pulled up onto the far side of the rim, presumably
from when the clincher tire came off:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

What do you see that shows a split in the rim?

Look at the rim at 5:30 to the left of the curved spoke- the rim appears
broken in two with the ends overlapping by 2-3 cm.

Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
Tim McNamara <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.j
pg

Quoted message said:

>> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

Quoted message said:

> Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
> rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

Quoted message said:

No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture.
Wonder if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made
of glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this
looks like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had
them here when Mavic introduced the trend..

Looks like the rim is broken in two at the 5:30 position (right in the
middle of the "A" on the sign behind the rider, the ends of the rim
overlap by a few cm) and you can see the tire and inner tube hagning
off the fork crown; I think the rim strip is still partially on the
rim. My guess is that either he hit something that caused the rim to
break or it broke in the crash (e.g., got run over by someone or
jammed into a barricade- is the "Hyperion" a carbon fiber rim?).

Yes to all your assumptions - they all happened. And yes, the dark anodized
rim is carbon. I'm not technical, but Brandt said it's anodized carbon.
New stuff entirely, to me. It's hard to keep up with technology. Certainly
the crash had nothing to do with the failure mode.
--
Sandy

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Quoted message said:

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

The rim in Campagnolo's Hyperon wheel model is carbon fiber.

-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Comprehensive catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996
http://www.businesscycles.com
-------------------------------

Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
John Dacey <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

"Quid lucrum istic mihi est". - John Dortumunder

Quoted message said:

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made
of glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this
looks like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had
them here when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

The rim in Campagnolo's Hyperon wheel model is carbon fiber.

-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Comprehensive catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996
http://www.businesscycles.com
-------------------------------

yeah, but is it hard anodized?

Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

someone writes

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

>>> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?

>> Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
>> rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.

> No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
> the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder
> if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.

Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
when Mavic introduced the trend..

Jobst Brandt

Dear Jobst,

I see a curved spoke at 5:30, presumably from a rim bent sideways, and
some green rim tape pulled up onto the far side of the rim, presumably
from when the clincher tire came off:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

What do you see that shows a split in the rim?

Look at the rim at 5:30 to the left of the curved spoke- the rim appears
broken in two with the ends overlapping by 2-3 cm.

Dear Tim,

Aha!

Thanks--now I think that I see the break, whatever may have caused it.

Here's a blown-up image with red arrows for Mr. Magoo posters like me:

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mjrous.jpg

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Tim McNamara said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On 23 May 2007 15:35:24 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

>someone writes
>
> http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg
>
>>>> But the *real* issue is... what's the guy with the camera doing?
>
>>> Who cares, the guy had a leak that gave him a soft tire that he
>>> rolled. That occurs easily even when sprinting straight ahead.
>
>> No, I think it's way more explosive than that. Look carefully at
>> the bottom of his front rim, near about 5:30 in the picture. Wonder
>> if that happened _before_ or after his tire rolled.
>
>Well if it isn't old splitting-anodized-rim showing its ugly head!
>That could not occur as a result of a flat unless the rim were made of
>glass. Aluminum rims bend unless its a fatigue crack, and this looks
>like the classic cracking of an anodized rim the way we had them here
>when Mavic introduced the trend..
>
>Jobst Brandt

Dear Jobst,

I see a curved spoke at 5:30, presumably from a rim bent sideways, and
some green rim tape pulled up onto the far side of the rim, presumably
from when the clincher tire came off:

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/giro07/giro07st09-time.jpg

What do you see that shows a split in the rim?

Look at the rim at 5:30 to the left of the curved spoke- the rim appears
broken in two with the ends overlapping by 2-3 cm.

Dear Tim,

Aha!

Thanks--now I think that I see the break, whatever may have caused it.

Here's a blown-up image with red arrows for Mr. Magoo posters like me:

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mjrous.jpg

Photo of Mr. Fogel at work?

http://tinyurl.com/ytqsht

The complete pile of photos may be of interest to fans of the referenced
movie:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040405061319/www.hqheadquarters.com/blowup/b
lowup.htm

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