In the most recent edition of the Norwegian magazine Motor which is published by the Norwegian automobile association NAF (basically a consumer and lobbying group for motorists in Norway), the editor's column came down hard on segregated bike paths. The editor points out that they are more dangerous that riding with traffic, and he encourages cyclists to use the road instead, unless they are travelling at a walking pace.
This is something that has been common knowledge for cyclists for some time, so it was quite a pleasant surprise to see support for this reasoning coming from such an unexpected source.
In the most recent edition of the Norwegian magazine Motor which is published by the Norwegian automobile association NAF (basically a consumer and lobbying group for motorists in Norway), the editor's column came down hard on segregated bike paths. The editor points out that they are more dangerous that riding with traffic, and he encourages cyclists to use the road instead, unless they are travelling at a walking pace.
This is something that has been common knowledge for cyclists for some time, so it was quite a pleasant surprise to see support for this reasoning coming from such an unexpected source.
Joseph
You don't think the real editor has been kidnapped by fanatical cyclists and replaced by a clone do you ?
Den 17.05.2007 kl. 22:04 skrev John Kane <[email hidden]>:
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You don't think the real editor has been kidnapped by fanatical cyclists and replaced by a clone do you ?
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
I have previously read about simular conlusions in danish newspapers - but I have not gone in to checking the statistiscs myself. I will try to do that now, beacause I also think it likely to be true, that bikelanes are more dangerous than no bikelanes.
On May 17, 5:44 pm, "Ivar Hesselager" <[email hidden]>
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Den 17.05.2007 kl. 22:04 skrev John Kane <[email hidden]>:
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Hi All,
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You don't think the real editor has been kidnapped by fanatical cyclists and replaced by a clone do you ?
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
I have previously read about simular conlusions in danish newspapers - but I have not gone in to checking the statistiscs myself. I will try to do that now, beacause I also think it likely to be true, that bikelanes are more dangerous than no bikelanes.
Ivar of Denmark
All the research that I have seen says that this is true. I have seen figures for Denmark and Finland that support this. Also I believe John Franklin in the UK has reported on bike paths in Milton Keynes and come to the same conclusions. Have a look at his annotated bibliography http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html
I was just surprised an editor of an auto magazine would say so.
On May 17, 5:44 pm, "Ivar Hesselager" <[email hidden]>
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Den 17.05.2007 kl. 22:04 skrev John Kane <[email hidden]>:
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Hi All,
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You don't think the real editor has been kidnapped by fanatical cyclists and replaced by a clone do you ?
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
I have previously read about simular conlusions in danish newspapers - but I have not gone in to checking the statistiscs myself. I will try to do that now, beacause I also think it likely to be true, that bikelanes are more dangerous than no bikelanes.
Ivar of Denmark
All the research that I have seen says that this is true. I have seen figures for Denmark and Finland that support this. Also I believe John Franklin in the UK has reported on bike paths in Milton Keynes and come to the same conclusions. Have a look at his annotated bibliography http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html
I was just surprised an editor of an auto magazine would say so.
In the most recent edition of the Norwegian magazine Motor which is published by the Norwegian automobile association NAF (basically a consumer and lobbying group for motorists in Norway), the editor's column came down hard on segregated bike paths. The editor points out that they are more dangerous that riding with traffic, and he encourages cyclists to use the road instead, unless they are travelling at a walking pace.
This is something that has been common knowledge for cyclists for some time, so it was quite a pleasant surprise to see support for this reasoning coming from such an unexpected source.
Was this the April Fool's edition? Adventure Cycling pulled one off by sending theirs out three weeks late...
In the most recent edition of the Norwegian magazine Motor which is published by the Norwegian automobile association NAF (basically a consumer and lobbying group for motorists in Norway), the editor's column came down hard on segregated bike paths. The editor points out that they are more dangerous that riding with traffic, and he encourages cyclists to use the road instead, unless they are travelling at a walking pace.
This is something that has been common knowledge for cyclists for some time, so it was quite a pleasant surprise to see support for this reasoning coming from such an unexpected source.
IF there were an ulterior motive, it might be that the added intersections of bike paths with roads is more of an annoyance in terms of delay to motorists than having bicyclists on the roads. Also, rather than being strictly altruistic with concern for the safety of bicyclists, the motoring organization may be more concerned about their insurance/liability issues.
On May 17, 5:44 pm, "Ivar Hesselager" <[email hidden]>
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Den 17.05.2007 kl. 22:04 skrev John Kane <[email hidden]>:
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On May 17, 4:02 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Hi All,
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You don't think the real editor has been kidnapped by fanatical cyclists and replaced by a clone do you ?
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John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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I have previously read about simular conlusions in danish newspapers - but I have not gone in to checking the statistiscs myself. I will try to do that now, beacause I also think it likely to be true, that bikelanes are more dangerous than no bikelanes.
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Ivar of Denmark
All the research that I have seen says that this is true. I have seen figures for Denmark and Finland that support this. Also I believe John Franklin in the UK has reported on bike paths in Milton Keynes and come to the same conclusions. Have a look at his annotated bibliographyhttp://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html
I was just surprised an editor of an auto magazine would say so.
Most reasonable people agree when I present my argument for why the paths are dangerous, and the editor of the magazine is apparently a reasonable person, so I wasn't really surprised that he would agree with these things were he aware, but more surprised that he would deem them imporatnt enough to warrant an editors column.
