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  1. okay

    I've got my new race bike (Trek 1200). Ive got a set of cycling clothes (shorts, trousers, jerseys etc).

    As soon as I've paid off my credit card for all the locks, licghts, etc etc I need to get a set of clipless pedals and some shoes (Santa Claus maybe?)

    So - not really knowing a great deal about them can anyone give me a beginers guide? From what I can tell there are many many manufacturers and several types of clip in - look, shimano etc.

    I guess it's similar to skiing / boarding in that respect.

    So what are the best for a beginer starting out?

    Any help / advice would be most appreciated.

    James

  2. When you're ready to take that step, there are lots of choices, which makes this both interesting and perhaps a bit difficult. The really tough part, in my opinion, is the shoe; your average cyclist could get comfortable in most of the major pedal systems with a little practice, but shoes are very personal. Cycling shoes can be difficult to get a good feel for unless you take them for a test ride -- not always an option.

    So give them as good a walk around as you can, at least. You'll want a shoe that's comfortable; it needs to hug your foot with soft but firm, even pressure from ankle to toe. Imagine yourself stomping hard, pulling your leg up aggressively, pushing it down; that baby needs to hold snug without pinching or chafing.

    Look for a rigid sole -- though getting a full-carbon, I-beam solid bottom is overkill. Sidi and Diadora both offer some good models with great rigidity and flex where appropriate. Get something stiffer later if you'd like.

    When you're selecting both your pedal and your shoe, keep compatability in mind. Browse the mfg's webpages, or talk to your local wrench heads. Most modern systems work with most modern shoes, but there are a few exceptions, so double check.

    Pedals? Well, Shimano's SPD format and its variants are extremely common, and you've got endless choices (from the new Dura Ace pedal to cheap generic clones from BikeNashbar). They're fairly easy to use, though keep in mind that most of the road units in the SPD format (as well as most Time, Look, and Campy pedals designed for road use) sport single-sided entry.

    That's not too hard to get over, but it makes the initial learning curve a touch steeper. If Shimano appeals to you, and this is your very first clipless pedal experience, you may want to consider one of their mountain units -- they're a bit bulkier in general, but you don't have to pay as much attention to the top or bottom of each platform, because they're dual-sided.

    How do the different formats feel? Well, I've only used Shimano SPDs and Speedplay. I'm a Speedplay guy for life, personally. Shimanos feel fairly secure, but it's a rigid sensation that becomes more tolerable depending on how much you pay. SPD systems are typically stingy with "float," or the degree to which your foot can pivot side-to-side on the cleat -- for most people, some float is critical for knee health and overall comfort.

    Speedplay, by my book, offers the simplest range of easy to use, high-performance, affordable pedals out there. They've got 5 excellent road models (and a cross/mountian model) that all share the company's excellent product features: they're superlight, they've got uncomplicated (just STOMP) dual-sided entry, and they give you float like nothing else. The dual-sided stomp entry makes them easy for beginners; the low weight and luscious float make them great for enthusiasts (like me) and pros alike.

    My roadie beginner girlfriend, despite being VERY nervous about clipless pedals, just took to a pair of X3s, and it took her about five stress-free minutes.

    Anyways, check out these mid/low priced products -- and good luck!

    Sidi Dynamic
    Diadora Cosmo
    Pearl Izumi Vortex
    Speedplay X3
    Speedplay X2
    Shimano Ultegra
    Shimano PD-540 (mtn)

    There are better prices elsewhere, FYI, but Performance is a good place to start when browsing online.

  3. Lokstah: Just took your advice and ordered Speedplay Zeros for the new frame. I've aways used Look, but based on good reports here as well as guy I ride with, plus the framebuilders recommendation, I'm trying the funny-looking pedals. As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the rotating weight savings (approx 180 grams vs A5.1 Look) isn't bad either.

    Besides, figured american pedals would be a fine for an american bike. I'll have Ritchey, Thomson, FSA, Velomax...so no need to go euro on the pedals either!

    Dan

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by dhk
    Lokstah: Just took your advice and ordered Speedplay Zeros for the new frame. I've aways used Look, but based on good reports here as well as guy I ride with, plus the framebuilders recommendation, I'm trying the funny-looking pedals. As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the rotating weight savings (approx 180 grams vs A5.1 Look) isn't bad either.

    Besides, figured american pedals would be a fine for an american bike. I'll have Ritchey, Thomson, FSA, Velomax...so no need to go euro on the pedals either!

    Dan


    Hey, I hope you like them, dhk.

    I actually got to go riding with a guy from Speedplay and rub elbows with a *very* popular former CSC team member and recent Tour hero (and Speedplay Zero user)... I think he looked at my bike at one point. It will be harder to sell this one now.

    I had a cool weekend.

    😉

  5. the shimano 536 ( mtb) pedal seems to have enough float .

  6. thanks alot guys - some great advice - will check them all out

    james

  7. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by el Inglés
    the shimano 536 ( mtb) pedal seems to have enough float .


    Well, that's definitely true for lots of people; I don't know how many folks I know that ride the PD-540, PD-M324, PD-M959 and other similar Shimano MTB pedals on all kinds of bikes and seem satisfied. Most pedals in that format offer about 8 degrees of float; a few offer 6 deg but not many offer more.

    Of course, it's all relative and personal. For me, in terms of the actual movement permitted, anything in the 10 degree or less range feels unpleasant and unnatural. Though I never experienced obvious float-related pain while using SPDs, the extreme sensation of rotational float provided by systems like Speedplay makes other pedals feel like shackles.

    Hey, dhk, don't forget to turn the stop-screws all the way out on your Zero cleats for maximum float. Dial them in later if you need to, but get a feel for that rotation!

  8. Lokstah,
    Was searching for shoe information and came across this thread. As a newbie to cycling, just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to explain about the pedals and shoes. It was really informative.

  9. I went clipless on my road bike first - after a couple of rides, I never looked back. Nothing to it. Went clipless on the MTB last spring, that was considerably more painful, literally. It took a long time and several spectacular crackups to get used to that.

    Had the opposite experience with pedals - tried Speedplay, but for me, they floated way too much. Ended up with Campy Ergo - not much float, but I like a stiff pedal that doesn't allow much side to side movement. To each, their own, I guess...

  10. For what it's worth, I bought a set of Shimano SPD's this weekend (540 I believe), with a pair of Shimano shoes. Didn't need anything real fancy, still working my way up training-wise. Plus, I had nothing to compare them too, so it worked out. My first intersection was a bit scary, but I managed not to fall on my first ride out. All I have to do now is figure out how to stay clipped in and balanced at an intersection :eek: 😕

  11. I am looking for entry level clipless pedals. What is better spd road single side pedals or look sytle pedals?

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