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  1. The Emporer has no clothes?

    Little Boots, you are running out of time.

    Published on Monday, April 30, 2007 by The Atlanta
    Journal-Constitution Rumbles in Military Hint at Change by Jay Bookman

    Time and again, President Bush has tried to hide his incompetence
    behind our men and women in uniform. Repeatedly, criticism of his
    policies has been distorted into an attack on the troops; too often,
    questions about his strategy have been brushed aside with claims that
    his policy had been dictated by his generals.

    Even now, with the House and Senate trying to force a change of
    direction, the White House accuses Congress of trying to "micromanage
    our commanders and generals," redefining the debate as a disagreement
    between Congress and the military, not with the president.

    I think that game is about to end. I think President Bush is losing
    the American military, and that while he wrangles with Congress over
    deadlines, in the end it will be the military that forces dramatic
    changes in policy in Iraq.

    Signs of that change abound. When the White House recently asked five
    retired four-star generals to serve as a so-called "war czar"
    overseeing our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, all five declined, a
    remarkable sign of disgust among those with a culture of service.

    "The very fundamental issue is, they don't know where the hell they're
    going," retired Marine Gen. John Sheehan said in explaining his
    refusal to consider the post.

    That sense of a military establishment finally losing patience is also
    reflected in the behavior of Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Gates has
    refused to toe the party line, asserting an independence that the Bush
    White House must find maddening. While the president was in Washington
    condemning Democrats for undercutting the troops, Gates was in Iraq
    announcing that the debate in Congress "probably has had a positive
    impact; at least I hope it has in terms of communicating to the Iraqis
    that this is not an open-ended commitment."

    Adm. William Fallon, the head of Central Command, signaled a similar
    change by banning use of the term "long war" to describe our struggle
    in the Middle East. "The idea that we are going to be involved in a
    'Long War' at the current level of operations is not likely and
    unhelpful," a spokesman explained.

    Perhaps the most telling signal, however, came in a devastating
    critique published last week in Armed Forces Journal by an active-duty
    Army lieutenant colonel, Paul Yingling.

    The piece, headlined "A Failure of Generalship," is nominally an
    attack on today's military leadership, which itself is
    extraordinary. The main thrust of Yingling's argument is that too many
    generals have stood mute while civilian leaders misled the nation
    about what is really happening in Iraq, repeating a mistake that led
    to disaster in Vietnam.

    "While the physical courage of America's generals is not in doubt,
    there is less certainty regarding their moral courage," Yingling
    writes. "In almost surreal language, professional military men blame
    their recent lack of candor on the intimidating management style of
    their civilian masters," and even though that has begun to change,
    "they may have waited too long."

    Yingling has served two tours of duty in Iraq. As a graduate of the
    Army's School of Advanced Military Studies, he had already been
    identified as one of the service's best and brightest, and he has made
    clear his intent to stay in the Army. With this critique, he has
    placed that career and his chance at a general's stars in severe
    jeopardy, but his willingness to take that risk will echo through the
    ranks as an example of the moral courage he finds absent in many of
    his superiors.

    All these signs point to a storm gathering within the military,
    especially as the strains imposed on the Army by the surge become more
    apparent. In that regard, it is interesting to note that Army
    Gen. David Petraeus, commanding officer of U.S. forces in Iraq, has
    recently and repeatedly stressed his intention to provide the American
    public an honest assessment of progress or failure by September. By
    then, he suggests, the effects of the surge and the willingness of the
    Iraqi government to reform will be more apparent.

    Last week, Petraeus was asked whether that assessment could
    conceivably include telling the president that things aren't working
    and the troops should come home.

    "I have an obligation to some wonderful young men and women in uniform
    - who are serving in Iraq, and who deserve a forthright assessment
    from the folks at the top - and that's what I'm going to provide,"
    Petraeus said.

    Gates and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, have joined
    Petraeus in setting September as an crucial time of reassessment. In
    other words, while Congress and the president wrangle about deadlines,
    a deadline of sorts may already have been set.

    Jay Bookman is the deputy editorial page editor. His column appears
    Mondays and Thursdays.

    © 2007 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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    Jobst Brandt

  2. Quoted message said:

    The Emporer has no clothes?

    Little Boots, you are running out of time.

    WHY THE HELL ARE YOU POSTING THIS ON RBT?!? I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO PRODUCE
    EVEN ONE EXAMPLE OF MARK HICKEY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS (especially
    starting a new thread).

    To use one of your favorite phrases, CUT IT OUT.

    TYVM.

  3. Staying on topic:

    America's Defeatist Politicians

    By: Rachel Marsden

    NEW YORK -- President George W. Bush asked Congress to approve funding for
    the U.S. troops in Iraq to be able to do their job. But before he could get
    through the cafeteria checkout, the Democrats insisted their heaping side
    order of surrender hitch a ride on his tray.

    Democrats insisting that troop funding be accompanied by a U.S. surrender
    date for the Iraqi front in the war on Islamofascism is the political
    equivalent of, "Do you want fries with that? No? Well, screw you, you're
    getting some anyway."

    Thankfully, Bush is still the president and can use his veto powers to send
    back the full meal deal. The problem is it's the troops who will end up
    starved.

    General David Petraeus, for whom the Democrats actually voted to oversee the
    war in Iraq, said this week that Iraq will need "an enormous commitment over
    time," echoing what George Bush said in his 2002 State of the Union address:
    "Our war on terror is well begun, but it is only begun. This campaign may
    not be finished on our watch -- yet it must be and it will be waged on our
    watch."

    Since it may be too much to expect people nowadays to recall what the
    President said five years ago when they strain to remember the name of last
    season's American Idol winner, here's a more recent version.

    At last year's address, Bush reiterated: "Our own generation is in a long
    war against a determined enemy -- a war that will be fought by presidents of
    both parties, who will need steady bipartisan support from the Congress."

    Why doesn't he just come out and say, "Hey, weren't you morons listening?"

    Even back in 1899, in his book The River War, former British prime minister
    Winston Churchill wrote of Islam: "No stronger retrograde force exists in
    the world." In a 1996 lecture, the other great British PM, Margaret
    Thatcher, warned that "radical Islamist movements now constitute a major
    revolutionary threat," and cited the "intellectual climate" as the reason
    why the West probably won't deal with threats.

    That "intellectual climate" is perfectly exemplified by leading Democratic
    presidential hopeful Barack Obama, who has never voted for military action
    to counter the murder of Americans and westerners. Yet he referred to
    outsourcing of American jobs as "the violence of men and women who have
    worked all their lives and suddenly have the rug pulled out from under
    them," and called radio host Don Imus' "nappy headed ho" comment "verbal
    violence."

    I'd be hard pressed to trust the perspective of someone who appears prone to
    confusing a paper cut with a bloodbath. Perhaps if we could get the
    terrorists to engage in some aggressive carpet removal or hip-hop karaoke,
    Obama's interest in fighting might be aroused.

    Obama says: "We know we can win this war based on shared purpose." Bill
    Clinton already tried dazzling extremists with his charm and charisma. It
    didn't work. Neither has 50-odd years of "negotiating" with Mideast
    radicals.

    A "shared purpose" can only mean that we would all have to unite in wanting
    to kill the people who want us dead. And Obama has yet to prove that there
    exists a circumstance in which he'd be prepared to do that.

    No one who initially voted against the war should get to vote in favour of
    doing nothing again. How about taking your dulcet tones to the local
    Toastmasters club, where you can refine your defeatist rhetoric while doing
    less harm to the world.

    PUBLISHED: TORONTO SUN (April 29/07)

    COPYRIGHT 2007 RACHEL MARSDEN

  4. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20347

  5. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20429

  6. Bill Sornson said:

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20429

    Wrong article, actually...but you get the idea.

  7. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    A "shared purpose" can only mean that we would all have to unite in
    wanting to kill the people who want us dead. And Obama has yet to prove
    that there exists a circumstance in which he'd be prepared to do that.

    That's rich, very rich. How many hundreds of thousands more Iraqis want us
    dead now?

    Greg

  8. G.T. said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    A "shared purpose" can only mean that we would all have to unite in
    wanting to kill the people who want us dead. And Obama has yet to
    prove that there exists a circumstance in which he'd be prepared to
    do that.

    That's rich, very rich. How many hundreds of thousands more Iraqis
    want us dead now?

    WHOOSH.

    The, ahem, POINT is that it's B.S. to post political stuff here -- left OR
    right. Or do you not care?

    It's one thing if a thread degenerates into an ideological flamefest (all
    participants somewhat to blame); it's quite another to post stuff like JB
    has done numerous times -- including this, 9-11 conspiracy diatribes,
    whatever.

    Hell, he didn't even put "OT" in the Subject line.

    ENOUGH.

  9. On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:04:44 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The, ahem, POINT is that it's B.S. to post political stuff here -- left OR
    right.

    Then why do you do it?

    And why did you bring up scooter Libby in the Landis thread? That is,
    why did you inject national/global politics into a thread about
    cycling?

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    JT
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  10. Bill Sornson said:
    Bill Sornson said:

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20429

    Wrong article, actually...but you get the idea.

    What's hypocritical here is a poster who

    a) changes a cycling thread (Landis) into a political one;

    b) complains when someone else starts another political thread;

    c) immediately after calling for the end of thread (b) above, makes
    multiple posts with potentially inflamatory political content to that
    thread.

  11. I believe Bush is doin a great job patching up his unbelievable
    screwup: chaos breeding chaos. Not deliberate off course but
    inevitable. The chaos has drawn fire while the hillbillies learned to
    read if not lead.
    We now seek a balance!! where arab and persian will castrate arab and
    persian indefinitley while the the planet spins into oblivion.
    There is a smell! Each peak of obstinace and foot stamping from the
    now demo congress brings an outburst of military activity killing both
    civilians and us servicemen: this is Nam battle propaganda at its
    worst, impeachable acts. The Admis will cry! we're fighting fire with
    fire here. yeah Ok! but we no longer believe you. That is deliberat
    and the action causes death for political gain.

  12. Bill Sornson said:
    G.T. said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A "shared purpose" can only mean that we would all have to unite in
    wanting to kill the people who want us dead. And Obama has yet to
    prove that there exists a circumstance in which he'd be prepared to
    do that.

    Quoted message said:

    That's rich, very rich. How many hundreds of thousands more Iraqis
    want us dead now?

    WHOOSH.

    The, ahem, POINT is that it's B.S. to post political stuff here -- left OR
    right. Or do you not care?

    It's one thing if a thread degenerates into an ideological flamefest (all
    participants somewhat to blame); it's quite another to post stuff like JB
    has done numerous times -- including this, 9-11 conspiracy diatribes,
    whatever.

    Hell, he didn't even put "OT" in the Subject line.

    Yeah!!! Whooda thunk it was a political thread from the subject line
    ("Washington Update"😉???

    Quoted message said:


    ENOUGH.

    Watch another hour of Faux News and post in the morning. ;-)

  13. On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:46:50 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Staying on topic:

    (Feeding the troll)

    Quoted message said:

    America's Defeatist Politicians

    By: Rachel Marsden


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    PUBLISHED: TORONTO SUN (April 29/07)

    COPYRIGHT 2007 RACHEL MARSDEN

    Were there no American columnists in favor of W's "position", so you
    had to go to Canada to find one?
    Email address works as is.

  14. Patrick Lamb said:

    On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:46:50 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Staying on topic:

    (Feeding the troll)

    Did you comment on the troll? It's OK with you?

    Quoted message said:

    Were there no American columnists in favor of W's "position", so you
    had to go to Canada to find one?

    Is that what you want, Pat? Shall I just post (paste) random, numerous
    essays and articles on this newsgroup? Are they only objectionable if
    they're right-sighted rather than left?

    Should I not even reduce them to links that people can click or not, but cut
    & paste entire texts as JB (@SA.O) did?

    Like everyone, I've got access to a LOT of material. Is it now "open
    season" on posting off-topic, political [censored] (left and right)?

    Here's an idea: TELL PEOPLE WHO POST THIS JUNK TO (JB's favorite phrase)
    CUT IT OUT.

    Or not. I can cut & paste with the best of 'em...

  15. Bill Sornson said:
    Patrick Lamb said:

    On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:46:50 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Staying on topic:

    Quoted message said:

    (Feeding the troll)

    Did you comment on the troll? It's OK with you?

    Quoted message said:

    Were there no American columnists in favor of W's "position", so you
    had to go to Canada to find one?

    Is that what you want, Pat? Shall I just post (paste) random, numerous
    essays and articles on this newsgroup? Are they only objectionable if
    they're right-sighted rather than left?

    Should I not even reduce them to links that people can click or not, but cut
    & paste entire texts as JB (@SA.O) did?

    Like everyone, I've got access to a LOT of material. Is it now "open
    season" on posting off-topic, political [censored] (left and right)?

    Here's an idea: TELL PEOPLE WHO POST THIS JUNK TO (JB's favorite phrase)
    CUT IT OUT.

    Or not. I can cut & paste with the best of 'em...

    Just remember not to run with the scissors, Billy. And use washable
    paste, you don't want to make mommy cross.

  16. Quoted message said:

    The Emporer has no clothes?

    <snip>

    Yow! I just posted an article taking Carl Fogel to task for posting
    about a police car/bicycle collision in r.b.t, and now this?

    Don't we partcipate in this group because we want technical
    information about bikes?

    --
    jeverett3<AT>sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)

  17. John Everett said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Emporer has no clothes?

    <snip>

    Yow! I just posted an article taking Carl Fogel to task for posting
    about a police car/bicycle collision in r.b.t, and now this?

    Don't we partcipate in this group because we want technical
    information about bikes?

    How dare you criticize the Mighty JB (yeah, yeah, @ SA.O)?!?

  18. Although I agree with the article, I still find it out of place here.

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    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:46:50 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Staying on topic:

    (Feeding the troll)

    Quoted message said:

    America's Defeatist Politicians

    By: Rachel Marsden


    ...

    Quoted message said:

    PUBLISHED: TORONTO SUN (April 29/07)

    COPYRIGHT 2007 RACHEL MARSDEN

    Were there no American columnists in favor of W's "position", so you
    had to go to Canada to find one?

    Rachel Marsden is the worst example of a journalist you're likely to
    find anywhere. She is a mentally unbalanced lightweight. The link
    summarizes her history, which we in her home town know only too well.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/29/marsden/

    Java

  20. Espressopithecus (Java Man) said:


    Rachel Marsden is the worst example of a journalist you're likely to
    find anywhere. She is a mentally unbalanced lightweight. The link
    summarizes her history, which we in her home town know only too well.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/29/marsden/

    She's not a journalist. She's a pundit.

    --
    JT
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