Hubs with old-skool axle

"Adam F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've been looking for a rear wheel with a bolt-on hub for my SS conversion
(cassette not freewheel), but darned if I can find one. I mean to say, my
friend's Huffy came with one - why are they so hard to find???

I'm in Canberra if anyone knows a good source.

Cheers,

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//Adam F

Get a track wheel / hub they will have bolt on rear axle rather than the
quick release that road wheels have but you can easy convert them.

Adam F said:

I've been looking for a rear wheel with a bolt-on hub for my SS
conversion (cassette not freewheel), but darned if I can find one. I
mean to say, my friend's Huffy came with one - why are they so hard to
find???

I'm in Canberra if anyone knows a good source.

Oh, I'm sitting on a goldmine then.

Adam F said:

I've been looking for a rear wheel with a bolt-on hub for my SS
conversion (cassette not freewheel), but darned if I can find one. I
mean to say, my friend's Huffy came with one - why are they so hard to
find???

I'm in Canberra if anyone knows a good source.

Is there any particular reason why you can't remove the hollow QR axle
and put in a solid one with nuts?

BTH

BT Humble said:

Adam F said:

I've been looking for a rear wheel with a bolt-on hub for my SS
conversion (cassette not freewheel), but darned if I can find one. I
mean to say, my friend's Huffy came with one - why are they so hard to
find???

I'm in Canberra if anyone knows a good source.

Is there any particular reason why you can't remove the hollow QR axle
and put in a solid one with nuts?

BTH

Hmm. When I asked my LBS that they said "oh no, would have to replace
the bearings and fiddle around etc."

I thought it strange too....

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//Adam F

Adam F said:

Hmm. When I asked my LBS that they said "oh no, would have to replace
the bearings and fiddle around etc."

Huh? That's not a big job, and not all that hard. You could do it yourself
in under an hour, and cone spanners are a useful thing to have.

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Dave said:

Adam F said:

Hmm. When I asked my LBS that they said "oh no, would have to replace
the bearings and fiddle around etc."

Huh? That's not a big job, and not all that hard. You could do it yourself
in under an hour, and cone spanners are a useful thing to have.

Hmm OK cheers. I think I need to look at an exploded diagram or
something, I'm clearly not up to speed on the internals of a hub - just
don't understand why changing the fastening mechanism (assuming the
axle's the same diameter) necessitates a change of bearings (would it be
impossible on a sealed bearing unit?)

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//Adam F

Adam F said:

Hmm OK cheers. I think I need to look at an exploded diagram or
something, I'm clearly not up to speed on the internals of a hub - just
don't understand why changing the fastening mechanism (assuming the
axle's the same diameter) necessitates a change of bearings (would it be
impossible on a sealed bearing unit?)

Basically you've got a threaded rod (the axle) that ties everything
together. On that are the cones, which are nuts with a ball bearing race,
and then the locknuts outside that. Between the cones sits the main body
of the hub, with the bearings between the hub and the cones. In the case
of a QR axle the axle itself is hollow and has the QR through the middle.

I'm sure there's a piccie on either parktools.com or sheldonbrown.com ,
along with more detailed instructions for adjusting cones.

Anyway, unless the bike's using cartridge bearings which just snap in,
those bearings are loose balls. Putting in a new axle means you need to
swap them all, so it's a bit fiddly, and you need to get the tension on the
cones just right. It's not that hard if you've done it before, but bank on
an hour or so for the first time while you tighten/loosen the cones until
you get them rolling nicely with no wobble.

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Dave Hughes | [email hidden]
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- Derek Potter, uk.misc

Dave said:

Adam F said:

Hmm OK cheers. I think I need to look at an exploded diagram or
something, I'm clearly not up to speed on the internals of a hub - just
don't understand why changing the fastening mechanism (assuming the
axle's the same diameter) necessitates a change of bearings (would it be
impossible on a sealed bearing unit?)

Basically you've got a threaded rod (the axle) that ties everything
together. On that are the cones, which are nuts with a ball bearing race,
and then the locknuts outside that. Between the cones sits the main body
of the hub, with the bearings between the hub and the cones. In the case
of a QR axle the axle itself is hollow and has the QR through the middle.

I'm sure there's a piccie on either parktools.com or sheldonbrown.com ,
along with more detailed instructions for adjusting cones.

Anyway, unless the bike's using cartridge bearings which just snap in,
those bearings are loose balls. Putting in a new axle means you need to
swap them all, so it's a bit fiddly, and you need to get the tension on the
cones just right. It's not that hard if you've done it before, but bank on
an hour or so for the first time while you tighten/loosen the cones until
you get them rolling nicely with no wobble.

OK thanks 🙂

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//Adam F

Adam F said:

Dave said:

Anyway, unless the bike's using cartridge bearings which just snap in,
those bearings are loose balls. Putting in a new axle means you need to
swap them all, so it's a bit fiddly, and you need to get the tension on the
cones just right. It's not that hard if you've done it before, but bank on
an hour or so for the first time while you tighten/loosen the cones until
you get them rolling nicely with no wobble.

OK thanks 🙂

If you want a hand or some spare parts, I've got a few dozen bikes
worth of dismantled everything and I live in Gordon.

BTH

BT Humble said:

Adam F said:

Dave said:

Anyway, unless the bike's using cartridge bearings which just snap in,
those bearings are loose balls. Putting in a new axle means you need to
swap them all, so it's a bit fiddly, and you need to get the tension on the
cones just right. It's not that hard if you've done it before, but bank on
an hour or so for the first time while you tighten/loosen the cones until
you get them rolling nicely with no wobble.

OK thanks 🙂

If you want a hand or some spare parts, I've got a few dozen bikes
worth of dismantled everything and I live in Gordon.

BTH

Thanks for the offer, I'll see how I go.

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//Adam F