That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation of another ride.
The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
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of another ride.
The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
There is an outfit called GeoBike that does just that. The guy's name who does it is Rich Ketcham. Don't know how widespread they are but I know they always produce topographical maps for RAGBRAI that shows exactly what you are looking for plus climb gradient, total climb, etc. You can see their RAGBRAI maps at geobike.comgbmain.shtmlOpen ↗ (just click on < RAGBRAI > on the left panel to see a sample of their work). If that URL doesn't work you can find a link to them on www.ragbrai.com . You could contact them and see what's available for your area.
Cool, but I guess what those graphs demonstrated to me was that this format might be deceiving without a good deal of extra information. For example, a graph of a 50 mile ride might look the same as a graph of a 5 mile ride. Let's say the graph looked basicaly like / . That kind of climb over 5 miles would be nearly impossible. But over 50 miles...
Users would still have to have an understanding of what different levels of climbs feel like over various distances. Hmmmm. I guess it's not so simple.
That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation of another ride.
The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
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Cool, but I guess what those graphs demonstrated to me was that this
format
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might be deceiving without a good deal of extra information. For example,
a
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graph of a 50 mile ride might look the same as a graph of a 5 mile ride. Let's say the graph looked basicaly like / . That kind of climb over 5 miles would be nearly impossible. But over 50 miles...
Users would still have to have an understanding of what different levels
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climbs feel like over various distances. Hmmmm. I guess it's not so simple.
As you suggest, it's all Rise over Run - just as with any line graph. GeoBike charts show the elevations on the vertical axis and the distance on the horizontal axis. Similar scales of elevation and distance will yield comparable data lines.
By riding with the GeoBike charts for a few days it all makes sense. When I use GeoBike on a multi-day ride it's very easy to predict one upcoming day's topography and predicted effort levels to previous days efforts by just comparing the charts of the different days.
My thing is that I have a website that many people depend on to find easy "family-type" rides. I try to provide an idea of how hilly or flat a ride may be, but, at best, it's just my personal opinion. And as a pretty good rider and climber myself, what may seem fairly flat to me might send someone else to the emergency room.
My goal is find or develop a universal system for describing the difficulty or ease of a ride.
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Cool, but I guess what those graphs demonstrated to me was that this
format
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might be deceiving without a good deal of extra information. For
example,
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a
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graph of a 50 mile ride might look the same as a graph of a 5 mile ride. Let's say the graph looked basicaly like / . That kind of climb over 5 miles would be nearly impossible. But over 50 miles...
Users would still have to have an understanding of what different levels
of
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climbs feel like over various distances. Hmmmm. I guess it's not so simple.
As you suggest, it's all Rise over Run - just as with any line graph. GeoBike charts show the elevations on the vertical axis and the distance
on
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the horizontal axis. Similar scales of elevation and distance will yield comparable data lines.
By riding with the GeoBike charts for a few days it all makes sense. When
I
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use GeoBike on a multi-day ride it's very easy to predict one upcoming
day's
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topography and predicted effort levels to previous days efforts by just comparing the charts of the different days.
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If you want to plot your own rides as I do you can buy this software delorme.comdefault.aspOpen ↗ (I bought mine on ebay) It builds those graphs you see at RAGBRAI for any route you want. It also allows you to see the maps in 3d. You can see the total climbing verses descending . It will show you percent of grade and everything. It will even work with gps units in both directions . If you have a gps that you can upload a route to , this software will do it. If you want to see where your local trail runs and plot maps of them you can download trails from the gps to the software. Its pretty cool Ray
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Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation of another ride.
The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
Hi, I've written an open-source software for generate maps, profiles and route tables of cycling routes, simply by clicking on a custom road map (that user must create using a map editor)
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If you want to plot your own rides as I do you can buy this software delorme.comdefault.aspOpen ↗ (I bought mine on ebay) It builds those graphs you see at RAGBRAI for any route you want. It also allows you to see the maps in 3d. You can see the total climbing verses descending . It will show you percent of grade and everything. It will even work with gps units in both directions . If you have a gps that you can upload a route to , this software will do it. If you want to see where your local trail runs and plot maps of them you can download trails from the gps to the software. Its pretty cool Ray
NY Rides said:
Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation of another ride.
The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
