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  1. Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a
    moderately hilly route. Occasionally, I could get the enthusiasm to do
    a 10-20 mile tour around the local coastline. I am reasonably fit and
    healthy.

    Unfortunately the only thing I know about cycles is what I've seen at
    Evans Cycles website, where the choice appears bewildering.
    http://www.evanscycles.com/foyer.jsp?tab=1

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

  2. Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Think more towards the £250 end. Go up to £300 and there's a good jump in
    quality for a modest increase in price. Suggested brands are Ridgeback,
    Marin or Giant. Avoid suspension. Budget £20-25 for mudguards. I
    strongly recommend going to a local bike shop to make sure you get the
    correct size.

  3. Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Think more towards the £250 end. Go up to £300 and there's a good jump in
    quality for a modest increase in price. Suggested brands are Ridgeback,
    Marin or Giant. Avoid suspension. Budget £20-25 for mudguards. I
    strongly recommend going to a local bike shop to make sure you get the
    correct size.

    Thanks Mark. I did see an earlier thread about recommendations for
    mountain bikes and picked up some useful pointers there, including your
    comments.

    Can you just tell me what's normally included in the box, and what you
    would regard as 'essential extras'?

    Is it also true that there is no longer a 'retail' market in second user
    cycles, and that the only way you'll get one is through a private ad in
    the classifieds?

  4. in message 4623e227.0@entanet said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a
    moderately hilly route. Occasionally, I could get the enthusiasm to do
    a 10-20 mile tour around the local coastline. I am reasonably fit and
    healthy.

    Unfortunately the only thing I know about cycles is what I've seen at
    Evans Cycles website, where the choice appears bewildering.
    http://www.evanscycles.com/foyer.jsp?tab=1

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Claud Butler Classic, £200 including rack and mudguards; or similar models
    from Dawes or Edinburgh Bicycle Co-op. The Classic and the EBC bikes, with
    which I'm familiar, are amazing value for money as simple, basic,
    practical bikes.

    http://www.falconcycles.co.uk/CORP/HYBRID/classicM.html
    http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f%5FProductID=7839

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; First they came for the asylum seekers,
    ;; and I did not speak out because I was not an asylum seeker.
    ;; Then they came for the gypsies,
    ;; and I did not speak out because I was not a gypsy...
    ;; Pastor Martin Niemöller, translated by Michael Howard.

  5. in message 4623ebbb.0@entanet said:
    Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Think more towards the £250 end. Go up to £300 and there's a good jump
    in
    quality for a modest increase in price. Suggested brands are Ridgeback,
    Marin or Giant. Avoid suspension. Budget £20-25 for mudguards. I
    strongly recommend going to a local bike shop to make sure you get the
    correct size.

    Thanks Mark. I did see an earlier thread about recommendations for
    mountain bikes and picked up some useful pointers there, including your
    comments.

    Can you just tell me what's normally included in the box, and what you
    would regard as 'essential extras'?

    A bike as supplied these days is normally fairly basic.

    Mudguards are often not supplied. For a road race bike that's normally used
    in dry weather they may be unnecessary, and on a serious mountain bike
    they're no use because they'd clog with mud; but for many cyclists
    mudguards are a good idea.

    Any means of carrying luggage is normally not supplied. A rear rack, or,
    alternatively, a handlebar bag, may be a good addition.

    Lighting is normally not supplied. For occasional use after dark battery
    lights make sense and are reasonably cheap, but if you're regularly riding
    after dark (or rising for long periods after dark) a hub dynamo makes a
    lot of sense.

    A lock is normally not supplied. In some parts of the country bicycle theft
    is a major problem, and so a lock becomes more or less necessary.

    Quoted message said:

    Is it also true that there is no longer a 'retail' market in second user
    cycles, and that the only way you'll get one is through a private ad in
    the classifieds?

    Yes. There are exceptions but most places it simply isn't economical to
    deal in second hand bikes - the cost of checking them over prior to sale
    would wipe out any margin. The exceptions are primarily high quality
    tourers, and specialist things like tandems.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    "The result is a language that... not even its mother could
    love. Like the camel, Common Lisp is a horse designed by
    committee. Camels do have their uses."
    ;; Scott Fahlman, 7 March 1995

  6. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Mudguards are often not supplied. For a road race bike that's normally
    used
    in dry weather they may be unnecessary, and on a serious mountain bike
    they're no use because they'd clog with mud; but for many cyclists
    mudguards are a good idea.

    You can tell, looking at Simon's recent pr0n shots :-)

    cheers,
    clive

  7. in message <[email hidden]>, Clive

    George (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mudguards are often not supplied. For a road race bike that's normally
    used
    in dry weather they may be unnecessary, and on a serious mountain bike
    they're no use because they'd clog with mud; but for many cyclists
    mudguards are a good idea.

    You can tell, looking at Simon's recent pr0n shots :-)

    The Raleigh has mudguards on when in winter plumage.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    IMHO, there aren't enough committed Christians, but that's care
    in the community for you. -- Ben Evans

  8. Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club.

    I presume that your glof clubs live at the golf club so to speak. It
    you're thinking of transporting them by bike you need to think about
    trailer options.

    --
    Dave...

  9. Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a

    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    ps I've never played golf.

  10. Richard Bates said:
    Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a

    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    ps I've never played golf.

    Neither have I but you can tell just by looking, can't you?

  11. Richard Bates said:
    Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to
    start cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and
    on a

    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of
    £150-250, can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    ps I've never played golf.

    Is RB another person who agrees with Mark Twain ?

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  12. Quoted message said:

    Can you just tell me what's normally included in the box, and what you
    would regard as 'essential extras'?

    ESSENTIAL:

    Mudguards. In the shop I'd suggest SKS ones for £23.

    Lights. LED ones (longer battery life). Get a cheapo rear one, and get
    a front one with a fairly wide beam. Use rechargable batteries and
    change 'em WELL before they run out (they get dimmer in a fairly
    'straight line', so'll be rubbish well before the batteries die). £10 -
    £45.

    Lock. A D-lock and something else to do the front wheel is a good idea
    (I recommend this to customers: <http://preview.tinyurl.com/yvsl2p> £25 -
    £30.

    Pump and puncture repair kit. I recommend a good track pump to stay at
    home (tyres done in seconds) and a mini pump for emergencies on the road.
    £20 for track pump with gauge and £13 for mini pump (EBC's Revolution own
    brand ones are excellent). £3 - £3.50 for puncture repair kit. £3 for
    inner tubes (or £4 from other shops :-P ). When it's raining it's nice
    to just bung in a new inner tube (remove glass or thorn from tyre first!)

    NICE TO HAVE:

    If you're taking heavy or bulky luggage then a pannier rack and panniers
    a lot better than a rucksack, especially in summer. £13 for the pannier,
    £50 to £75 for the panniers (go for quality). Ortlieb do the best ones,
    in terms of waterproofness, durability (a lifetime) and the attachment
    system).

    For a cyclist wanting to get all hot and sweaty, clipless pedals give 30%
    more power. £20-50 for a pedal with normal and SPD sides, £40-50 for
    shoes.

    As for clothing, cycling specific stuff is more confortable and has a
    better fit. I wear thin, windproof gloves for all 3/4 of the year. A
    baseball hat keeps rain out of the eyes (a pet hate), and a windproof
    water*resistant* top keeps the rain out without being too sweaty
    (waterproof stuff isn't really breathable enough for a sweaty cyclist).
    I do cycle year-round, so place a higher value on the right clothes for
    the job. I recommend you get stuff after you've been riding the bike
    some time - you'll have a better idea of what you'd like and what you can
    do without.

    Quoted message said:

    Is it also true that there is no longer a 'retail' market in second
    user cycles, and that the only way you'll get one is through a private
    ad in the classifieds?

    Kinda. Most shops will not buy second hand bikes 'cos (nearly) all they
    get offered are stolen ones. Some sell second hand ones - locally Harry
    Hall's sell expensive stuff, Bicycle Doctor sell good, medium
    range+expensive stuff and Withington cycles sell all kinds of weird,
    cheap old and battered stuff (but they've serviced them and replaced worn
    parts. It's how I got my first semi-decent bike). Ring about the local
    shops and see what they've got in. I'd recommend buying new thobut -
    £300'll get something good, with good availability of spare parts.
    Buying from the paper is a good way to get stuff that'll cost as much to
    repair as you paid for it. Great for a £20 hack bike, not good for much
    else unless you know your stuff.

  13. (Ziggy) said:

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:32:57 +0100, Richard Bates

    Quoted message said:
    Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Quoted message said:

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    Quoted message said:

    ps I've never played golf.

    Neither have I but you can tell just by looking, can't you?

    Golf's a great game. I like the see-saw thing and the windmill best

    (sorry, couldn't resist)
    Hywel

  14. (Ziggy) said:

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:32:57 +0100, Richard Bates

    Quoted message said:
    Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Quoted message said:

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    Quoted message said:

    ps I've never played golf.

    Neither have I but you can tell just by looking, can't you?

    I have. Nothing is quite as adrenaline provoking as climbing that
    fence with the possible bull to get the last ball.

    ?jkk

  15. "hyweldavies" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    (Ziggy) said:

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:32:57 +0100, Richard Bates

    Quoted message said:
    Bypass said:

    Now that I've just about reached fifty, I've decided it's time to start
    cycling to the golf club. It's around 4 miles from home and on a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Given that I think I would like a hybrid and have a budget of £150-250,
    can anyone please give me a recommendation?

    Quoted message said:

    Sell the golf clubs and buy a more expensive bike. Cycling is sooooo
    much more fun than golf.

    Quoted message said:

    ps I've never played golf.

    Neither have I but you can tell just by looking, can't you?

    Golf's a great game. I like the see-saw thing and the windmill best

    (sorry, couldn't resist)
    Hywel

    You're just being crazy now ;-)

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