I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
Tim McTeague
I use the P2R 700x25's sometimes. I weigh 230lbs, so I have a much greater need for more the larger casing. But I'd be surprised the difference were ONLY 60g. The 25's seem way bigger and beefier than the 23's IMO.
I think 90-95psi is too high for the 25's if you only weigh 160. Maybe you run overly high pressures on 23's making them unnecessarily harsh? I'd suggest 23's at 100-105 for a 160# rider.
My current tire I am phasing out my P2R's with is the Vittoria Evo Pave 24. It's got a herringbone tread which I don't care for, but has a nice intermediate size casing and good puncture resistance and a nice feel.
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
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Tim McTeague said:
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I
was
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really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can
anyone
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verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real
issue
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and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem
MUCH
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bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have
to
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open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may
go
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back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
Tim McTeague
I use the P2R 700x25's sometimes. I weigh 230lbs, so I have a much greater need for more the larger casing. But I'd be surprised the difference were ONLY 60g. The 25's seem way bigger and beefier than the 23's IMO.
I think 90-95psi is too high for the 25's if you only weigh 160. Maybe you run overly high pressures on 23's making them unnecessarily harsh? I'd suggest 23's at 100-105 for a 160# rider.
My current tire I am phasing out my P2R's with is the Vittoria Evo Pave 24. It's got a herringbone tread which I don't care for, but has a nice intermediate size casing and good puncture resistance and a nice feel.
Joseph
I'm 195lb and use them for my commuter bike, a stiff 89 Cannondale Criterium. Usually run them 90-100lb depending on what kind of mood I'm in. Good tires and I weighed one when new before installing: 280g for the Pro2Race 700x25c
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
257g on our scale. (with the plastic wrapper it was 312g.)
If you weigh tires from different batches they'll vary a bit but not 35g
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight?
I can't help you with your question, except to observe that wasting your attention on 2 oz. that brings offsetting performance benefits seems sort of neurotic. Did you lose by .05 seconds in last year's Tour de France or something?
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Tim McTeague said:
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I
was
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really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can
anyone
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verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real
issue
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and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem
MUCH
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bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have
to
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open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may
go
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back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
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Tim McTeague
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I use the P2R 700x25's sometimes. I weigh 230lbs, so I have a much greater need for more the larger casing. But I'd be surprised the difference were ONLY 60g. The 25's seem way bigger and beefier than the 23's IMO.
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I think 90-95psi is too high for the 25's if you only weigh 160. Maybe you run overly high pressures on 23's making them unnecessarily harsh? I'd suggest 23's at 100-105 for a 160# rider.
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My current tire I am phasing out my P2R's with is the Vittoria Evo Pave 24. It's got a herringbone tread which I don't care for, but has a nice intermediate size casing and good puncture resistance and a nice feel.
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Joseph
I'm 195lb and use them for my commuter bike, a stiff 89 Cannondale Criterium. Usually run them 90-100lb depending on what kind of mood I'm in. Good tires and I weighed one when new before installing: 280g for the Pro2Race 700x25c
I run mine in the 95 psi range. I really like them too, and I don't care about the weight, it is just the clearance issues that bother me. If they were a tad smaller I'd be happy as a clam.
I can't help you with your question, except to observe that wasting your attention on 2 oz. that brings offsetting performance benefits seems sort of neurotic. Did you lose by .05 seconds in last year's Tour de France or something?
Chalo
Wow only one person, so far, who seems upset that I asked a question about component weights. Things are improving. I guess I should have devoted the time I took obsessing on this to solving the situation in Darfur.
If you read my post it was not only a query about weight, and I was just curious at what seemed like a surprising difference, I was more concerned about how fat the 25s were. It makes removing the wheel a PITA. Anyway, are you telling me you never check out the weights of parts you put on your bike? Yeah, right.
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
257g on our scale. (with the plastic wrapper it was 312g.)
Are you sure? That is a very heavy wrapper. My wrapper weigh 28 gr.
I was looking at the new probikekit.com catalog, thinking of buying some Pro2Race 700x25 tires, and noticed they list the weight as 300 grams. I was really surprised that they are 60 grams more than the 700x23s. Can anyone verify this weight? Michelin's website lists them as 265 and 220. I like the greater comfort of the 25s but perhaps only because I can safely run them at 90-95 psi. I'm not racing so perhaps the weight is not a real issue and I weigh 160lbs so even the 23s are big enough. Michelin's 25s seem MUCH bigger than the 23s and I have a tough time removing the wheel. I have to open the brake and loosen the cable to get them out. At this point I may go back to 23s and just drop the pressure a bit.
Tim McTeague
Dan Donnelly calls this a 700x26mm tire contrary to Michelin. Mine measure out to 26mm. Unknown on tire weight but agree w/ many posters, very good comfortable tire. Andy
I can't help you with your question, except to observe that wasting your attention on 2 oz. that brings offsetting performance benefits seems sort of neurotic. Did you lose by .05 seconds in last year's Tour de France or something?
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Chalo
Wow only one person, so far, who seems upset that I asked a question about component weights. Things are improving. I guess I should have devoted the time I took obsessing on this to solving the situation in Darfur.
If you read my post it was not only a query about weight, and I was just curious at what seemed like a surprising difference, I was more concerned about how fat the 25s were. It makes removing the wheel a PITA. Anyway, are you telling me you never check out the weights of parts you put on your bike? Yeah, right.
If you read my post it was not only a query about weight, and I was just curious at what seemed like a surprising difference, I was more concerned about how fat the 25s were. It makes removing the wheel a PITA.
Do your brakes not have release levers on them? Or is this a too- short chainstay issue?
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Anyway, are you telling me you never check out the weights of parts you put on your bike? Yeah, right.
No, sometimes I compare weights so I can be confident that a given component will be heavy enough to suit me. But I am a special case in that regard. For me to ride a bike that weighed in at the UCI limit, for instance, would be like a pro racer riding a bike that weighed between five and seven pounds, proportionally speaking. I use things like BMX cranks and tandem wheels in part *because* they are heavy.
I happily use 700x60 road tires on 38mm wide rims. My "skinny" tires are 700x35s and are mounted on nice sturdy 23mm wide 48 hole rims. And I really _don't_ know how much they weigh.
If you have a cricket-like build, I can see why you'd gravitate towards lightweight equipment. But come on-- are there not other things about a tire that are more important to you than a couple of ounces more or less?
