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  1. I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neil
    http://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

  2. The Historian wrote:
    :: I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    :: is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    :: It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    :: group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    :: attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    :: or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    :: or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    What's a comfort bike? What does "fat" have to do with it?

    How much riding have you done? Do you have any balance issues that you know
    of? It seems to be just a matter of skill, otherwise. Or confidence.
    Perhaps your bike wobbles because you are afraid of falling? Could that be
    it? Can you sit in a more upright position before removing your left hand?
    It really should not take much to keep the bike going fairly straight. And a
    little bit of wobble is not really anything to worry about as long as you
    don't go careering out of control and hit something or worst.

    ::
    :: I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    :: learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    :: enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    So, you've just recently started riding? I've seen your handle somewhere
    before, I assumed it was in here. Maybe not.

    Anyway, practice makes perfect. Keep riding, you'll figure it out.

    ::
    :: Thanks,
    :: Neil
    :: http://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

  3. The Historian said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neil
    http://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

    On a comfort bike and depending on your normal posture, your weight may
    be naturally more on the back wheel which could make it a little more
    squirrely feeling, but you ought to be able to do this. I would not
    rush it if you are uncomfortable, though. Also, if you brake with the
    front brake and don't have both hands on the handlebars, sometimes it
    can cause some unexpected handling reactions. I don't have a flat bar
    bike anymore, but the only time I wrecked out seriously, I accidentally
    braked with the front wheel on my mountain bike when I had one hand on
    the bar. The road was slick and I went down when the front wheel
    jacknifed on me. Handling is all different (more stable) for me on my
    road bike and I can pretty much do whatever I want.

    You'll probably get more comfortable with it over time. You have only
    been riding for several months. Right? Is this the first time you have
    tried riding without "both hands on the wheel?"

  4. "The Historian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    Only guessing, but I'm thinking that you're so stiff and tense
    when you try and signal that it starts you wobbling.
    My wife has a similar problem with her downtube shifters
    because she gets so tense. Happens to older folks who are afraid of falling,
    i.e. sensible individuals.

    The more miles you ride, the more relaxed you will get.
    And sometimes "comfort" bikes are not so comfrotable.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, The

    Historian said:


    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neil

    That day will come -- and your wobbly signalling will disappear -- that
    much sooner with more riding. Don't unduly concern yourself; go and out
    and ride and you'll soon discover these difficulties will solve
    themselves.

    Luke

  6. On Mar 28, 6:39 am, "The Historian" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neilhttp://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

    Are you white-knuckling the bars with the hand that stays on them? I
    recently rode with someone who was having a similar problem on a road
    bike, and it was a comfort thing. Once she relaxed, she was able to
    relax her grip and sit up a bit more, making it a lot more stable.
    You'll find even with both hands, a more relaxed grip on the
    handlebars results in a smoother and more stable ride. This is
    accented when riding with one hand.

    Good luck, keep pedaling, you'll get it.

  7. Roger Zoul said:

    The Historian wrote:

    :: I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    :: is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    :: It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    :: group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    :: attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    :: or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    :: or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    What's a comfort bike? What does "fat" have to do with it?

    Trek Navigator 3.0. I'm an overweight novice rider in a class filled
    with lean, experienced cyclists. I don't mind being the last to finish
    the ride. but I want to be able to finish it without causing an
    accident.

    Quoted message said:

    How much riding have you done?

    39 miles this week on bike paths. My first ride was December 24, 2006.
    I've probably got in about 150 or so miles total.

    Do you have any balance issues that you know

    Quoted message said:

    of?

    Underdeveloped core muscles from being 385 pounds. Mild scoliosis. A
    left leg that doesn't extend fully.

    It seems to be just a matter of skill, otherwise. Or confidence.

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps your bike wobbles because you are afraid of falling? Could that be
    it? Can you sit in a more upright position before removing your left hand?
    It really should not take much to keep the bike going fairly straight. And a
    little bit of wobble is not really anything to worry about as long as you
    don't go careering out of control and hit something or worst.

    ::
    :: I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    :: learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    :: enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    So, you've just recently started riding? I've seen your handle somewhere
    before, I assumed it was in here. Maybe not.

    It was here.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, practice makes perfect. Keep riding, you'll figure it out.

    ::
    :: Thanks,
    :: Neil
    ::http://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

  8. On Mar 28, 5:39 am, "The Historian" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    You're probably clutching the handlebar much too tightly. Practice
    riding in a straight line while consciously releasing your grip until
    your hands are resting but lightly on the grips. After a while you
    should find that the bike really will continue forward without you
    having to wrestle it into submission.

    Once you've trained yourself to believe that you can control the bike
    with a light touch, it will become easier for that touch to come from
    only one hand at a time.

    R

  9. Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Could be that you're going very slowly at the intersection out of fear, but
    so slowly that you're losing stability. A little bit faster might do the
    trick, despite internal logic that is telling you otherwise.

    Also, do you have a water bottle on your bike? If not, I'd suggest getting
    one. Why? Because the practice (away from traffic and other riders
    initially) of getting at your water bottle while riding, and putting it
    back, is going to improve your confidence for riding one-handed (while
    signaling).

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  10. On Mar 28, 12:39 pm, "The Historian" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neilhttp://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

    Hi Neil,

    Glad to see you are still at it.

    I think this is mostly a fear barrier. Perhaps you can practice by
    lifting one hand a few inches above the bar ready to grab it again
    without compounding the exercise with hand signals, getting ready for
    turns, etc. After a while you'll get it. Just relax. And remember a
    bike stays up due to semi-controlled wobbling, and sometimes this
    wobble is more pronounced that others. Just go with the flow and don't
    try to fight it. If you have very wide bars, this seems to encorage
    one-handed wobblieness. I think this is because the relatively large
    hand movements needed to control the bike are difficult to do
    precisely. With narrower bars (or your hands holding wide ones closer
    to the middle) less hand movement is required, and this allows for
    more precision. I know that I can ride a straigter line one handed
    with one hand holding right in the center next to the stem, rather
    than out at the end of the bars. I don't have to do this, as I am
    comfortable with the wobble from holding out at the end, but the
    wobble is more pronounced.

    As you are overweight, perhaps you have while riding with both hands
    lots of weight resting on the bars? If you do, this could set things
    out of wack when you lift one arm. If this is the case, do something
    to your riding position (seat position, bar position) to eliminate
    having so much weight resting on your hands.

    Joseph

  11. Quoted message said:

    On Mar 28, 12:39 pm, "The Historian" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Neilhttp://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

    Hi Neil,

    Glad to see you are still at it.

    I think this is mostly a fear barrier. Perhaps you can practice by
    lifting one hand a few inches above the bar ready to grab it again
    without compounding the exercise with hand signals, getting ready for
    turns, etc. After a while you'll get it. Just relax. And remember a
    bike stays up due to semi-controlled wobbling, and sometimes this
    wobble is more pronounced that others. Just go with the flow and don't
    try to fight it. If you have very wide bars, this seems to encorage
    one-handed wobblieness. I think this is because the relatively large
    hand movements needed to control the bike are difficult to do
    precisely. With narrower bars (or your hands holding wide ones closer
    to the middle) less hand movement is required, and this allows for
    more precision. I know that I can ride a straigter line one handed
    with one hand holding right in the center next to the stem, rather
    than out at the end of the bars. I don't have to do this, as I am
    comfortable with the wobble from holding out at the end, but the
    wobble is more pronounced.

    As you are overweight, perhaps you have while riding with both hands
    lots of weight resting on the bars? If you do, this could set things
    out of wack when you lift one arm. If this is the case, do something
    to your riding position (seat position, bar position) to eliminate
    having so much weight resting on your hands.

    Joseph


    You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it is
    unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how about doing
    your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as practical? If you
    are worried about staying with the pack then you are using the 'already
    lost weight' approach and it won't work for a newbie. Most (not all)
    bikes are pretty stable on their own, as my grandkids have demonstrated
    during their 'kill the bike' phase. They would get up to about 12 MPH
    and just stand up running and let the bike go. 9 times out of 10 the
    bike would stay upright on it's own until it got slow enough to just
    fall over. Sitting full upright means you won't get racer type speeds
    but you still get the exercise, which is the whole point.
    Case study....me. A Century at 12 MPH is still a Century even if it is
    not a 25 MPH blast. Miles count either way and if you aren't trying to
    become a racer the miles do add up to lost weight and better conditioning.
    Just keep at it.
    Bill Baka

  12. The Historian said:

    Underdeveloped core muscles from being 385 pounds. Mild scoliosis. A
    left leg that doesn't extend fully.

    385? But you've lost a lot of that already.

    Keep practicing. For some riders, comfort riding with one, or both,
    hands off the bar comes only after much practice, if at all. I have
    been surprised at strong riders being unable to shake hands with me when
    I meet them on a ride, since they are afraid to remove one hand from the
    bar for that long.

    But it is not merely a trick to be able to ride no-hands. Yes, not just
    one-handed, but no hands. It allows you to take care of things while
    you are riding, such as dealing with clothing and equipment.

    Experiment with just taking one hand off the bar. You may want to
    temporarily shift more of your weight to the saddle when you do this
    (just shift back and more upright), but with a little practice you will
    be able to manage that. Then worry about doing so as you signal, and as
    you are looking around to make sure it is safe to proceed.

    As you progress, try to briefly remove both hands from the bars. Again,
    you should shift your weight back some and sit upright, to help you do
    that. With practice, you can control the bike, even turn, by just
    shifting your weight from side to side.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
    You soon find out the pig likes it!

  13. catzz66 said:

    On a comfort bike and depending on your normal posture, your weight may
    be naturally more on the back wheel which could make it a little more
    squirrely feeling, but you ought to be able to do this. I would not
    rush it if you are uncomfortable, though.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, if you brake with the
    front brake and don't have both hands on the handlebars, sometimes it
    can cause some unexpected handling reactions. I don't have a flat bar
    bike anymore, but the only time I wrecked out seriously, I accidentally
    braked with the front wheel on my mountain bike when I had one hand on
    the bar.

    I never thought of this, but certainly it is true. When you brake, you
    naturally put more pressure on the bars. If you have only one hand on
    the bar, you have to resist that push-forward or you will abruptly turn
    and fall.

    Use both hands to brake. PA law (or at least their cycling booklet)
    says that you don't have to signal if you need your hands to brake.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
    You soon find out the pig likes it!

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Historian said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Are you trying to look at where your turning into, while
    stiffly holding your head steady for looking straight
    ahead, and just turning your eyes?

    If so -- don't.

    Feel free to turn your head to look around and get
    a good, informative look instead of taking furtive
    glances, but know the bike will tend to go where
    you're looking. That effect can be overridden by
    practicing, and that's the trick.

    Find a nice, safe, no-traffic, wide area like an
    empty parking lot, and practice shoulder-checking
    without swerving. Once you've mastered that, the
    rest just falls into place. Mike's advice about
    the water bottle is good, too. Y'know what else
    helps? Being able to ride no-hands. The best way
    to practice that is to find a gentle upgrade that
    requires you to keep pedalling, but not forcibly.
    Take your hands off the handlebar and just hover
    them over the grips. You might lose confidence
    after a pedal stroke or two and start to veer, and
    have to get back onto the handlebar. That's okay,
    the handlebar is right there. Eventually you'll
    develop a body-knowledge of steering the bike by
    leaning it. Except, some bikes just aren't
    predilected to being ridden no-hands.

    I figure shoulder-checking is a more important
    skill than signalling anyway. In fact it should
    always precurse any signalling.

    Just between you, me, and the lamppost, the
    right arm right-turn signal is not only easier
    to perform than the left arm signal, but I think
    it's more informative to other road users than
    pointing up at the sky with your left hand.
    The left arm right-turn signal is for car drivers,
    who can't stick their right arms out the passenger
    side window. Unfortunately for cyclists, the right
    arm right-turn signal isn't universally recognized,
    so it's a good idea to check to see if it is or not
    in your jurisdiction.

    And if there's nobody else around, I don't even
    bother to signal, because ... what's the point?

    There may be a proviso in your local regulations
    that says you don't have to take a hand off the
    handlebar if you deem it unsafe to do so. Like
    if you're going down a steep hill, and really
    need access to that brake lever as you approach
    the intersection.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  15. Bill said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Mar 28, 12:39 pm, "The Historian" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm taking a "Street Skills for Cyclists" course. The final day of it
    is this weekend, and calls for me to complete a 15 mile group ride.
    It's bad enough that I'm the only fat rider on a comfort bike in this
    group, but an even worse problem is that my bike wobbles when I
    attempt to signal. I can't remove my left hand for more than a second
    or two without beginning to lose control. Is there an easy solution,
    or is it something obvious I am not doing? HELP!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm enjoying riding despite all the problems associated with the bike
    learning curve. But I am looking forward to the day I don't have to
    enjoy it despite beginner's difficulties.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks,
    Neilhttp://historian2wheels.blogspot.com/

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Neil,

    Quoted message said:

    Glad to see you are still at it.

    Quoted message said:

    I think this is mostly a fear barrier. Perhaps you can practice by
    lifting one hand a few inches above the bar ready to grab it again
    without compounding the exercise with hand signals, getting ready for
    turns, etc. After a while you'll get it. Just relax. And remember a
    bike stays up due to semi-controlled wobbling, and sometimes this
    wobble is more pronounced that others. Just go with the flow and don't
    try to fight it. If you have very wide bars, this seems to encorage
    one-handed wobblieness. I think this is because the relatively large
    hand movements needed to control the bike are difficult to do
    precisely. With narrower bars (or your hands holding wide ones closer
    to the middle) less hand movement is required, and this allows for
    more precision. I know that I can ride a straigter line one handed
    with one hand holding right in the center next to the stem, rather
    than out at the end of the bars. I don't have to do this, as I am
    comfortable with the wobble from holding out at the end, but the
    wobble is more pronounced.

    Quoted message said:

    As you are overweight, perhaps you have while riding with both hands
    lots of weight resting on the bars? If you do, this could set things
    out of wack when you lift one arm. If this is the case, do something
    to your riding position (seat position, bar position) to eliminate
    having so much weight resting on your hands.

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it is
    unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how about doing
    your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as practical?

    I don't think I explained that well. Fat people, even recovering fat
    people, often have underdeveloped core muscles. Ever see a really fat
    person try to stand up? I'm currently about 250, and aiming for 200.

    If you

    Quoted message said:

    are worried about staying with the pack then you are using the 'already
    lost weight' approach and it won't work for a newbie. Most (not all)
    bikes are pretty stable on their own, as my grandkids have demonstrated
    during their 'kill the bike' phase. They would get up to about 12 MPH
    and just stand up running and let the bike go. 9 times out of 10 the
    bike would stay upright on it's own until it got slow enough to just
    fall over. Sitting full upright means you won't get racer type speeds
    but you still get the exercise, which is the whole point.
    Case study....me. A Century at 12 MPH is still a Century even if it is
    not a 25 MPH blast. Miles count either way and if you aren't trying to
    become a racer the miles do add up to lost weight and better conditioning.
    Just keep at it.
    Bill Baka

  16. The Historian said:
    Bill said:

    You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it is
    unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how about doing
    your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as practical?

    I don't think I explained that well. Fat people, even recovering fat
    people, often have underdeveloped core muscles. Ever see a really fat
    person try to stand up? I'm currently about 250, and aiming for 200.


    I have one, um, fat friend, about 5'10" tall and 300 pounds. He manages
    OK but does admit to having some weight related problems. I am trying to
    get him on his Cannondale to get into better shape. He is not a couch
    potato but rather a computer addict. He is good on motorcycles but not a
    motivated exerciser. He is my project.
    May you both do well.
    Bill Baka

  17. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it is
    unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how about doing
    your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as practical?

    I don't think I explained that well. Fat people, even recovering fat
    people, often have underdeveloped core muscles. Ever see a really fat
    person try to stand up? I'm currently about 250, and aiming for 200.

    You used to weigh 385, you're down to 250 and targeting 200?

    You ROCK!

    Whatever you're doing, stay with the program. And don't get to thinking that
    a 250 pound cyclists can't do well. Lots of 250 pound cyclists out pounding
    the pavement, even doing the nastier climbs.

    Looking forward to hearing more of your adventures-

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  18. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it is
    unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how about doing
    your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as practical?

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think I explained that well. Fat people, even recovering fat
    people, often have underdeveloped core muscles. Ever see a really fat
    person try to stand up? I'm currently about 250, and aiming for 200.

    You used to weigh 385, you're down to 250 and targeting 200?

    You ROCK!

    Thank you. Here's the timeline from my blog:

    * January 3, 2006 - 385
    * February 1, 2006- 360
    * March 1, 2006 - 350
    * April 1, 2006 - 340
    * May 1, 2006 - 330
    * June 1, 2006 - 320
    * July 1, 2006- 310
    * August 1, 2006 - 300
    * September 1, 2006 - 297
    * October 1, 2006- 290
    * November 1, 2006 - 285
    * December 1, 2006 - 280
    * January 5, 2007 - 275
    * January 31 - 262
    * March 1, 2007 - 252
    * March 8 - 254
    * March 16 - 253

    Quoted message said:

    Whatever you're doing, stay with the program.

    Eating less and better, and exercising. Now that I'm riding, bicycling
    will be my main form of exercise. Although I'm not taking up riding
    because it burns calories, but because it's fun.

    And don't get to thinking that

    Quoted message said:

    a 250 pound cyclists can't do well. Lots of 250 pound cyclists out pounding
    the pavement, even doing the nastier climbs.

    Looking forward to hearing more of your adventures-

    Thank you, Mike, and thank you to the other posters as well.

  19. Bill wrote:
    :: Case study....me. A Century at 12 MPH is still a Century even if it
    :: is not a 25 MPH blast. Miles count either way and if you aren't
    :: trying to become a racer the miles do add up to lost weight and
    :: better conditioning. Just keep at it.
    :: Bill Baka

    Good advice, Bill!

  20. The Historian wrote:
    :: On Mar 28, 10:51 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::::: You mentioned something about being, what?....380 pounds(?) so it
    ::::: is unlikely you are trying to ride the drops and do aero so how
    ::::: about doing your first 80 pounds or so just sitting up as much as
    ::::: practical?
    :::
    :::: I don't think I explained that well. Fat people, even recovering
    :::: fat people, often have underdeveloped core muscles. Ever see a
    :::: really fat person try to stand up? I'm currently about 250, and
    :::: aiming for 200.
    :::
    ::: You used to weigh 385, you're down to 250 and targeting 200?
    :::
    ::: You ROCK!
    ::
    :: Thank you. Here's the timeline from my blog:
    ::
    :: * January 3, 2006 - 385
    :: * February 1, 2006- 360
    :: * March 1, 2006 - 350
    :: * April 1, 2006 - 340
    :: * May 1, 2006 - 330
    :: * June 1, 2006 - 320
    :: * July 1, 2006- 310
    :: * August 1, 2006 - 300
    :: * September 1, 2006 - 297
    :: * October 1, 2006- 290
    :: * November 1, 2006 - 285
    :: * December 1, 2006 - 280
    :: * January 5, 2007 - 275
    :: * January 31 - 262
    :: * March 1, 2007 - 252
    :: * March 8 - 254
    :: * March 16 - 253
    ::
    ::: Whatever you're doing, stay with the program.
    ::
    :: Eating less and better, and exercising. Now that I'm riding,
    :: bicycling will be my main form of exercise. Although I'm not taking
    :: up riding because it burns calories, but because it's fun.
    ::
    :: And don't get to thinking that
    ::: a 250 pound cyclists can't do well. Lots of 250 pound cyclists out
    ::: pounding the pavement, even doing the nastier climbs.
    :::
    ::: Looking forward to hearing more of your adventures-
    ::
    :: Thank you, Mike, and thank you to the other posters as well.

    I started at 367...starting riding at 255. I'm now around 230lbs. I've
    never had any problems with core muscles as you mention. I've spent a lot of
    time exercising, even as an overweight kid. Being fat doesn't have to mean
    you don't get exercise.

    I don't think your problems really have much to do with your weight. You
    have may some "unique to you" characteristics which makes balancing harder
    for you, but you'll work through it.

    I ride because it's fun and because it burns calories. I like to do long
    miles! I hardly like to leave the house if I can't get in around 50 or so.
    Of course, life sometimes says "You only have time for 35" so you take what
    comes your way.

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