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  1. http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-03-04-1.html

    "Here's the raw truth:
    All the computer models are wrong. They have not only failed to predict the
    future, they can't even predict that past.

    That is, when you run their software with the data from, say, the 1970s or
    1980s, and project what should happen in the 1990s or 2000s, they project
    results that have absolutely nothing to do with the known climate data for
    those decades.

    In other words, the models don't work. The only way to make them "work" is
    to take the known results and then fiddle with the software until it finally
    produces them. That's not how honest science is done."

    "Science isn't done by consensus. It's done by rigorous testing. When a
    hypothesis -- or a computer model -- fails to correspond to the actual
    real-world data, you throw it out."

    "And Kerr quotes glaciologist Richard Alley of Penn State:

    "The ... data are sufficiently convincing that [solar variability] is now
    the leading hypothesis to explain the roughly 1,500-year oscillation of the
    climate seen since the last ice age, including the Little Ice Age of the
    17th century" (p.8)."

    Asher tells us, on the other hand, that it is ALL caused by man. He cries
    that there is NOW nothing that we can do about it and that the whole earth
    will suffer from Bill C's back surgery and all of the energy that it took to
    perform it.

    Asher of course, is a true believer. He will see nothing but anthropogenic
    global warming no matter what real science says.

  2. "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-03-04-1.html

    "Here's the raw truth:
    All the computer models are wrong. They have not only failed to predict


    the

    Quoted message said:

    future, they can't even predict that past.


    snipped

    Quoted message said:

    Asher of course, is a true believer. He will see nothing but anthropogenic
    global warming no matter what real science says.


    Houston we have a problem. Thomas has derailed, he is off-track. Maybe his
    Meds should be re-evaluated.

  3. "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-03-04-1.html

    "Here's the raw truth:
    All the computer models are wrong. They have not only failed to
    predict the future, they can't even predict that past.

    That is, when you run their software with the data from, say, the
    1970s or 1980s, and project what should happen in the 1990s or 2000s,
    they project results that have absolutely nothing to do with the known
    climate data for those decades.

    In other words, the models don't work. The only way to make them
    "work" is to take the known results and then fiddle with the software
    until it finally produces them. That's not how honest science is
    done."

    "Science isn't done by consensus. It's done by rigorous testing. When
    a hypothesis -- or a computer model -- fails to correspond to the
    actual real-world data, you throw it out."

    "And Kerr quotes glaciologist Richard Alley of Penn State:

    "The ... data are sufficiently convincing that [solar variability] is
    now the leading hypothesis to explain the roughly 1,500-year
    oscillation of the climate seen since the last ice age, including the
    Little Ice Age of the 17th century" (p.8)."

    Asher tells us, on the other hand, that it is ALL caused by man. He
    cries that there is NOW nothing that we can do about it and that the
    whole earth will suffer from Bill C's back surgery and all of the
    energy that it took to perform it.

    Asher of course, is a true believer. He will see nothing but
    anthropogenic global warming no matter what real science says.

    A couple of interesting articles ..........

    http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/ci/31/special/may01_viewpoint.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=440049&in_page_id=1965

    Phil H

  4. "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-03-04-1.html

    "Here's the raw truth:
    All the computer models are wrong. They have not only failed to predict
    the future, they can't even predict that past.

    That is, when you run their software with the data from, say, the 1970s
    or 1980s, and project what should happen in the 1990s or 2000s, they
    project results that have absolutely nothing to do with the known climate
    data for those decades.

    In other words, the models don't work. The only way to make them "work"
    is to take the known results and then fiddle with the software until it
    finally produces them. That's not how honest science is done."

    "Science isn't done by consensus. It's done by rigorous testing. When a
    hypothesis -- or a computer model -- fails to correspond to the actual
    real-world data, you throw it out."

    "And Kerr quotes glaciologist Richard Alley of Penn State:

    "The ... data are sufficiently convincing that [solar variability] is now
    the leading hypothesis to explain the roughly 1,500-year oscillation of
    the climate seen since the last ice age, including the Little Ice Age of
    the 17th century" (p.8)."

    Asher tells us, on the other hand, that it is ALL caused by man. He cries
    that there is NOW nothing that we can do about it and that the whole
    earth will suffer from Bill C's back surgery and all of the energy that
    it took to perform it.

    Asher of course, is a true believer. He will see nothing but
    anthropogenic global warming no matter what real science says.

    A couple of interesting articles ..........

    http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/ci/31/special/may01_viewpoint.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=440049&in_page_id=1965

    It wouldn't be any really big deal if the results of this mythical man-made
    climate change wasn't being born mostly by the third world nations.

    The same whack-jobs that are crying Global Warming are pushing ethanol which
    has already caused a sharp increase in corn prices and reduced other grains
    as farmers switch over to the more profitable corn.

    Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    (

    ) are buying "carbon credits".
    This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the rich can
    continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in dark cold
    rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming to be for the
    working man.

  5. Tom Kunich said:

    Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    (

    ) are buying "carbon credits".
    This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the rich can
    continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in dark cold
    rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming to be for the
    working man.

    Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    money to burn.

  6. "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    (

    ) are buying "carbon credits".
    This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the rich can
    continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in dark cold
    rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming to be for
    the working man.

    Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    money to burn.

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy explain
    to me what having money means?

  7. in message <[email hidden]>, Tom

    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    (

    ) are buying "carbon
    credits". This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the
    rich can continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in
    dark cold rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming
    to be for the working man.

    Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    money to burn.

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    explain to me what having money means?

    http://www.colnago.com/

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; An enamorata is for life, not just for weekends.

  8. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tom

    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    explain to me what having money means?

    http://www.colnago.com/

    Leave it to Simon to find some hole in the logic. But you still aren't going
    to convince me that carbon credits are a good idea.

  9. Tom Kunich said:

    "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    (

    ) are buying "carbon credits".
    This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the rich can
    continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in dark cold
    rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming to be for
    the working man.


    Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    money to burn.

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy explain
    to me what having money means?

    I don't know what you've missed here, it seems plain to me.

    They wont be sitting in the dark and they wont be cold because they will
    have money to burn. Combustion has that effect.

  10. "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Tom Kunich wrote:

    > Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    > (

    ) are buying "carbon
    > credits". This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the
    > rich can continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in
    > dark cold rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming
    > to be for the working man.
    Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    money to burn.

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    explain to me what having money means?

    I don't know what you've missed here, it seems plain to me.

    They wont be sitting in the dark and they wont be cold because they will
    have money to burn. Combustion has that effect.

    Somehow it's not surprising that you don't understand what carbon credits
    are and are commenting on it anyway.

  11. Tom Kunich said:

    "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Tom Kunich wrote:
    >
    >> Think about this - Al Gore and "Buffy" Edwards
    >> (

    ) are buying "carbon
    >> credits". This is rich people giving money to poor people so that the
    >> rich can continue their profligate lifestyles while poor people sit in
    >> dark cold rooms without energy. Pretty hypocritical for people claiming
    >> to be for the working man.
    > Not necessarily. If carbon credits are costly enough, the poor will have
    > money to burn.
    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    explain to me what having money means?


    I don't know what you've missed here, it seems plain to me.

    They wont be sitting in the dark and they wont be cold because they will
    have money to burn. Combustion has that effect.

    Somehow it's not surprising that you don't understand what carbon credits
    are and are commenting on it anyway.

    Somehow, it's not surprising that you are ... YOU!

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Tom

    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tom

    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    explain to me what having money means?

    http://www.colnago.com/

    Leave it to Simon to find some hole in the logic. But you still aren't
    going to convince me that carbon credits are a good idea.

    Does that mean I /can't/ have a carbon Colnago?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
    ;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18

  13. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tom

    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tom
    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com'😉 wrote:
    > If you can't buy electricity, gasoline or any other form of energy
    > explain to me what having money means?

    http://www.colnago.com/

    Leave it to Simon to find some hole in the logic. But you still aren't
    going to convince me that carbon credits are a good idea.

    Does that mean I /can't/ have a carbon Colnago?

    Does that put lead in your pencil?

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