I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain. The best one that I had was a cheapo from Western Auto that "broke" when I attemped to remove a chain on a printing press.After that it really worked well on my bike, but it wore out a long time ago. I have tried others, but do not like them. I saw one advertised at Bike Nashbar called "Nashbar Shop Chain Rivet Tool" for around twenty bucks. Has anyone used this one or might have other suggestions. It seems when I was younger removing, and fixing the chain was no problem, but now it has become a chore. I know there are chains which require "no" tool, but they really do in order to shorten them.
On Mar 5, 3:54 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
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I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain.
Probably because you had a crappy one. I'm a huge fan of the classic Rivoli tool. There are copies out there that don't work nearly as well, or simply break the first time you use them. It's cheap to boot. Get the silver for single speed chains and fatter derailleur chains, gold for narrow stuff.
I just responded to Craigslist cry for help with one, a young hipster needed five additional links of KMC chain and a tool to put his single speed together. I happened to have some spare cheapie KMC links to match in my bucket of fun, so took a five minute detour from my errands and made the kid's day. Rivoli Power!
On Mar 5, 3:54 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
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I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain.
Probably because you had a crappy one. I'm a huge fan of the classic Rivoli tool.
I'll second that. One of its most endearing features to me is that it's designed to be handheld, I mean /securely/. I find the others are wont to roll or twist around in one's grasp because they're too rounded and slickly plated -- an effect which is exacerbated by having chain lube all over one's hands. But the Rivoli has a certain lumpiness and all those sharp corners.
With one cheap unit I once bought, the T-handle slipped right out of the shaft as soon as I took it out of the blister pack. I had to wrap li'l nubs of tape around the ends of the T-handle so it would stay in there.
cheers, Tom
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I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain. The best one that I had was a cheapo from Western Auto that "broke" when I attemped to remove a chain on a printing press.After that it really worked well on my bike, but it wore out a long time ago. I have tried others, but do not like them. I saw one advertised at Bike Nashbar called "Nashbar Shop Chain Rivet Tool" for around twenty bucks. Has anyone used this one or might have other suggestions. It seems when I was younger removing, and fixing the chain was no problem, but now it has become a chore. I know there are chains which require "no" tool, but they really do in order to shorten them.
Thanks
Tom
I find the Park chain tool (mini CT-5) really nice. It works way better than the Rivoli.
I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain. The best one that I had was a cheapo from Western Auto that "broke" when I attemped to remove a chain on a printing press.After that it really worked well on my bike, but it wore out a long time ago. I have tried others, but do not like them. I saw one advertised at Bike Nashbar called "Nashbar Shop Chain Rivet Tool" for around twenty bucks. Has anyone used this one or might have other suggestions. It seems when I was younger removing, and fixing the chain was no problem, but now it has become a chore. I know there are chains which require "no" tool, but they really do in order to shorten them.
I find the Park chain tool (mini CT-5) really nice. It works way better than the Rivoli.
That one works all right on the SRAM chains I've used, but it's all but unusable, IME, for Shimano chains. I ended up grabbing the CT-5 tool body with a vise-grip, and the handle with another pliers, to open one of those monsters. Of course, the same can be said for everything short of the monster Park CT-3.
I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain. The best one that I had was a cheapo from Western Auto that "broke" when I attemped to remove a chain on a printing press.After that it really worked well on my bike, but it wore out a long time ago. I have tried others, but do not like them. I saw one advertised at Bike Nashbar called "Nashbar Shop Chain Rivet Tool" for around twenty bucks. Has anyone used this one or might have other suggestions. It seems when I was younger removing, and fixing the chain was no problem, but now it has become a chore. I know there are chains which require "no" tool, but they really do in order to shorten them.
Thanks
Tom
I find the Park chain tool (mini CT-5) really nice. It works way better than the Rivoli.
I have to agree. The other posters who've touted the Cyclo Rivoli probably haven't used them as much as some of us do. The weak link (no pun intended) in the Rivoli is the pin. The business end tends to mushroom over and the pins seem to want to fall out of the screw.
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I have always had bad luck with tools that remove the rivet in your chain. The best one that I had was a cheapo from Western Auto that "broke" when I attemped to remove a chain on a printing press.After that it really worked well on my bike, but it wore out a long time ago. I have tried others, but do not like them. I saw one advertised at Bike Nashbar called "Nashbar Shop Chain Rivet Tool" for around twenty bucks. Has anyone used this one or might have other suggestions. It seems when I was younger removing, and fixing the chain was no problem, but now it has become a chore. I know there are chains which require "no" tool, but they really do in order to shorten them.
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I find the Park chain tool (mini CT-5) really nice. It works way better than the Rivoli.
I have to agree. The other posters who've touted the Cyclo Rivoli probably haven't used them as much as some of us do.
I've used them quite a bit, for twenty years at least. 6-8 times per year. Enough to for issues to surface, don't ya think? Never had a problem with them to be honest. I don't use any narrow 9/10 speed chains, so perhaps it's different with them.
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The weak link (no pun intended) in the Rivoli is the pin. The business end tends to mushroom over and the pins seem to want to fall out of the screw.
I've had that happen in Rivoli clones, never with a Rivoli. Is the Park tool better made? Sure. But the Rivoli tool has never given me a reason to look elsewhere. It's $5-7 and is just fine for home use.
I find the Park chain tool (mini CT-5) really nice. It works way better than the Rivoli.
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That one works all right on the SRAM chains I've used, but it's all but unusable, IME, for Shimano chains. I ended up grabbing the CT-5 tool body with a vise-grip, and the handle with another pliers, to open one of those monsters. Of course, the same can be said for everything short of the monster Park CT-3.
I use the venerable Gian Robert chain pliers on my chains.
