Versus - Idiot Management

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went down
to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a gallon
of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home and of
course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence seems
to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to treat
cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

They are morons, but Pro Wrestling in all it's versions buries cycling
in the free market. You want socialist support for, and covergae of
cycling when they could make more money?
That's un-American.
Bill C

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went

down

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to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a

gallon

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of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home

and of

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course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence

seems

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to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to

treat

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cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

They are morons, but Pro Wrestling in all it's versions buries cycling
in the free market. You want socialist support for, and covergae of
cycling when they could make more money?
That's un-American.
Bill C

The solution is quite obvious. We need the Combat Cycling League. Lots of
blood, lots of drugs, lots of destruction, lots of down-home good family
fun! Why, there could be awards for the most innovative drug cocktails,
lightest bikes, best takedowns, longest skids, highest speeds, best tattoos
and matching jerseys. Next, Vegas needs to get involved. That is where the
money will come from. Circuit night races on the Vegas strip! Bright lights,
big [censored] and world class buffet action. You want to make cycling popular?
Give us the type of thing we can really understand! The formula is simple:
Money, Sex, Drugs, Violence and great buffets! What's the problem with that
I ask? UCI? We can give them a small cut, maybe...

Bruce Gilbert said:

The solution is quite obvious. We need the Combat Cycling League. Lots of
blood, lots of drugs, lots of destruction, lots of down-home good family
fun! Why, there could be awards for the most innovative drug cocktails,
lightest bikes, best takedowns, longest skids, highest speeds, best tattoos
and matching jerseys. Next, Vegas needs to get involved. That is where the
money will come from. Circuit night races on the Vegas strip! Bright lights,
big [censored] and world class buffet action. You want to make cycling popular?
Give us the type of thing we can really understand! The formula is simple:
Money, Sex, Drugs, Violence and great buffets! What's the problem with that
I ask? UCI? We can give them a small cut, maybe...

I know, I know, I keep bringing it up, but this is a slight
alteration.

Pursuits on figure 8s. No medical until they crawl off the track.
Second bonuses for secondary hits on subsequent passes.

We could call it, "Pursuit of the Survivor".

The trick part of it is (I think) being second through (pursuits with
trackstands!), just enough to get the rear wheel, and we would have to
decide what would be a legal takedown. Really nasty looking leather
gloves with spikes would be a great visual, but wiping off sweat could
be tricky.

I think we really need to look at tag team pursuit, or Devil take the
hind most as well.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went down
to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a gallon
of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home and of
course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence seems
to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to treat
cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

Yet they are the only US channel to even make an effort to cover
cycling.

gds said:

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went down
to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a gallon
of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home and of
course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

I saw the listing, tried to tune in, saw they'd baited-and-switched
me, looked to see if it was on later, listings had no mention of it
being bumped back - expletive deleted. At least you got a gallon of
beer out of the deal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence seems
to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to treat
cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

Yet they are the only US channel to even make an effort to cover
cycling.

If the effort consists of having a show listing and no show, I'd
rather they didn't go to all of that "effort".

R

RicodJour said:

If the effort consists of having a show listing and no show, I'd
rather they didn't go to all of that "effort".

R

Well I agree that there is a question of competent process with VS.
But the issue is not pro or con cycling. They mess up all their
listings. At least in our our area the summary listings for the week
published in the Sunday paper often do not agree with the daily
listing times published in the sports section. I've learned that the
sports section is correct.

Hey, if it's too much trouble for you you shouldn't bother. I don't
plan my day around TV shows so if I catch it fine and if not, well I
go do something else.
And there is still way more road cycling coverage on VS. than on all
the other US channels combined. So... .

gds said:

RicodJour said:

If the effort consists of having a show listing and no show, I'd
rather they didn't go to all of that "effort".

Well I agree that there is a question of competent process with VS.
But the issue is not pro or con cycling. They mess up all their
listings.

I feel much better knowing that. Now I won't take it personally. 😉

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At least in our our area the summary listings for the week
published in the Sunday paper often do not agree with the daily
listing times published in the sports section. I've learned that the
sports section is correct.

I go by my cable company's listings. If they can't get it right, who
can?

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Hey, if it's too much trouble for you you shouldn't bother. I don't
plan my day around TV shows so if I catch it fine and if not, well I
go do something else.

I shouldn't bother...? You mean if I don't appreciate the existential
beauty of misleading listings I shouldn't even attempt to watch
cycling on TV? I also do "do something else", but my DVR is _very_
literal, and I hate upsetting her.

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And there is still way more road cycling coverage on VS. than on all
the other US channels combined. So...

In other words, when in a kosher deli, don't complain about the ham
sandwich being a little gristly? 🙂

R

RicodJour said:

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In other words, when in a kosher deli, don't complain about the ham

sandwich being a little gristly? 🙂

R

Nah, just make sure you order it on white toast with mayo ;-)

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RicodJour said:

I saw the listing, tried to tune in, saw they'd baited-and-switched
me, looked to see if it was on later, listings had no mention of it
being bumped back - expletive deleted. At least you got a gallon of
beer out of the deal.

According to my TiVo, the Cyclism Preview will be on Wed 3/7 at 12pm PST,
with the Tour of Qatar on at 1pm. Paris-Nice will be on Sunday 3/11 at
2pm PDT, with a replay on Wed 3/14 at 12pm. Tour of Qatar is 1 hour,
Paris-Nice is 2 hours.

I have my TiVo setup to record all cycling on Versus, and the only one of the
shows it did not have scheduled to record is the Cyclism Preview, which
it didn't record yesterday either.

Of course, if they change the schedule and TiVo doesn't find out, I'll get
whatever crud they are showing.

--
Mike Iglesias Email: [email hidden]
University of California, Irvine phone: 949-824-6926
Network & Academic Computing Services FAX: 949-824-2069

Bruce Gilbert said:

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went

down

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to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a

gallon

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of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home

and of

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course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence

seems

Quoted message said:

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to run on every single day.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to

treat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

Quoted message said:

They are morons, but Pro Wrestling in all it's versions buries cycling
in the free market. You want socialist support for, and covergae of
cycling when they could make more money?
That's un-American.
Bill C

The solution is quite obvious. We need the Combat Cycling League. Lots of
blood, lots of drugs, lots of destruction, lots of down-home good family
fun! Why, there could be awards for the most innovative drug cocktails,
lightest bikes, best takedowns, longest skids, highest speeds, best tattoos
and matching jerseys. Next, Vegas needs to get involved. That is where the
money will come from. Circuit night races on the Vegas strip! Bright lights,
big [censored] and world class buffet action. You want to make cycling popular?
Give us the type of thing we can really understand! The formula is simple:
Money, Sex, Drugs, Violence and great buffets! What's the problem with that
I ask? UCI? We can give them a small cut, maybe...- Hide quoted text -

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Lafferty suggested, pretty much, that quite a while ago.
Saw a scary version of something close the other day. One of the
"Home Video" shows had a tape of a motorcycle, yes motorcycle,
demolition derby. From the bikes it had to be from the mid 70s.
That was painful, and amazing, to watch.
A real "Hey Y'all Watch This!!" moment. Nothing but bikes, helmets,
jeans, and some gloves as they slammed into and over each other.
Bill C

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Bill C said:

Lafferty suggested, pretty much, that quite a while ago.
Saw a scary version of something close the other day. One of the
"Home Video" shows had a tape of a motorcycle, yes motorcycle,
demolition derby. From the bikes it had to be from the mid 70s.
That was painful, and amazing, to watch.
A real "Hey Y'all Watch This!!" moment. Nothing but bikes, helmets,
jeans, and some gloves as they slammed into and over each other.
Bill C

On 3/4/07 5:32 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went down
to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a gallon
of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home and of
course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence seems
to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to treat
cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

Oddly enough, Comcast listed Cyclysm Sunday at 5:00 pm Mountain Time, and
sure enough, it was on at 5:00 pm Mountain Time ... Imagine that, a show
being televised when the schedule said it was going to be televised.

--
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Bruce Gilbert said:

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

Well, Versus again posted Cyclism Sunday for one time then when I went

down

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to the Sports Bar to watch it on large screen TV with pub food and a

gallon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of beer it was snow boarding. Finally left in disgust, came back home

and of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

course the schedule showed that it was kicked up an hour.

Is it any wonder that these morons can't get an audience? Incompetence

seems

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to run on every single day.

Versus could have the audience for bicycling but they seem to want to

treat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cycling as a poorer cousin to Pro Wrestling. Screw them.

They are morons, but Pro Wrestling in all it's versions buries cycling
in the free market. You want socialist support for, and covergae of
cycling when they could make more money?
That's un-American.
Bill C

The solution is quite obvious. We need the Combat Cycling League. Lots of
blood, lots of drugs, lots of destruction, lots of down-home good family
fun! Why, there could be awards for the most innovative drug cocktails,
lightest bikes, best takedowns, longest skids, highest speeds, best tattoos
and matching jerseys. Next, Vegas needs to get involved. That is where the
money will come from. Circuit night races on the Vegas strip! Bright lights,
big [censored] and world class buffet action. You want to make cycling popular?
Give us the type of thing we can really understand! The formula is simple:
Money, Sex, Drugs, Violence and great buffets! What's the problem with that
I ask? UCI? We can give them a small cut, maybe...

It would work. That's the odd thing. People would go
crazy watching those drug addled hamsters. And they
would not compete with the big leagues for athletes.
Image problem? What image problem?

--
Michael Press

RicodJour said:

gds said:

RicodJour said:

If the effort consists of having a show listing and no show, I'd
rather they didn't go to all of that "effort".

Well I agree that there is a question of competent process with VS.
But the issue is not pro or con cycling. They mess up all their
listings.

I feel much better knowing that. Now I won't take it personally. 😉

Quoted message said:

At least in our our area the summary listings for the week
published in the Sunday paper often do not agree with the daily
listing times published in the sports section. I've learned that the
sports section is correct.

I go by my cable company's listings. If they can't get it right, who
can?

Quoted message said:

Hey, if it's too much trouble for you you shouldn't bother. I don't
plan my day around TV shows so if I catch it fine and if not, well I
go do something else.

I shouldn't bother...? You mean if I don't appreciate the existential
beauty of misleading listings I shouldn't even attempt to watch
cycling on TV? I also do "do something else", but my DVR is _very_
literal, and I hate upsetting her.

Quoted message said:

And there is still way more road cycling coverage on VS. than on all
the other US channels combined. So...

In other words, when in a kosher deli, don't complain about the ham
sandwich being a little gristly? 🙂

R

yeah...eventually that 'making an effort to cover cycling' novelty wears
off. If they just covered one baseball game a year would anyone be okay
with it? Cycling is a sport... covering one race is like deciding to
cover one NASCAR race or ball game. Either do it or don't do it but
enough with this token effort, and trying to convince us we should be
satisfied...that is getting really old already!

gds said:

RicodJour said:

Quoted message said:

In other words, when in a kosher deli, don't complain about the ham

sandwich being a little gristly? 🙂

R

Nah, just make sure you order it on white toast with mayo ;-)

EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW.....

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yeah...eventually that 'making an effort to cover cycling' novelty wears
off. If they just covered one baseball game a year would anyone be okay
with it? Cycling is a sport... covering one race is like deciding to cover
one NASCAR race or ball game. Either do it or don't do it but enough with
this token effort, and trying to convince us we should be satisfied...that
is getting really old already!

EXACTLY! It seems like about every other time I decide to watch the races on
Versus (ex-OLN) they change the schedule at the last minute. After all, they
really have to make certain that they don't interfere with Lords of the
Lumber.