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"pppeterrr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So, I'm nosing around wiggle, and put a couple of things in my wishlist.
About £120 worth (enough for the 20% discount).
Several hours later, a £5 discount voucher arrives by email, presumably
not a coincidence.
Hurrah, an extra fiver off!
So of course, I have to buy said items.
Rgds,
Peter

I get the impression from Wiggle's promotions etc that the business is
perhaps experiencing "challenging" conditions - the business was refinanced
at the end of last year, and then of course there was the alleged credit
card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where loads of card details
were accesses - including mine. That said I haven't been put off purchasing
from Wiggle - excellent service and (usually) good prices - I just don't
leave my credit card details on their system

RG

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and then of course there was the alleged credit
card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where loads of card details
were accesses - including mine.

When was this? I just had some fraudulent purchases on my card - I
first used Wiggle in December.

pppeterrr said:

So, I'm nosing around wiggle, and put a couple of things in my wishlist.
About £120 worth (enough for the 20% discount).
Several hours later, a £5 discount voucher arrives by email, presumably
not a coincidence.
Hurrah, an extra fiver off!
So of course, I have to buy said items.
Rgds,
Peter

By the way, if you want the 20% off, and don't need £100 of kit now, but
know you will be buying again in future, I noticed you can add gift
vouchers to your basket to make it up to a ton. You don't get 20% off the
vouchers (which would be an interesting scam), but everything else is still
discounted.

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pppeterrr said:

So, I'm nosing around wiggle, and put a couple of things in my wishlist.
About 120 worth (enough for the 20% discount).
Several hours later, a 5 discount voucher arrives by email, presumably
not a coincidence.
Hurrah, an extra fiver off!
So of course, I have to buy said items.
Rgds,
Peter

By the way, if you want the 20% off, and don't need £100 of kit now, but
know you will be buying again in future, I noticed you can add gift
vouchers to your basket to make it up to a ton. You don't get 20% off the
vouchers (which would be an interesting scam), but everything else is
still
discounted.

If they really are in trouble, I don't think i want their gift vouchers.

Oh how do i remove my card from their website, I couldnt' fidn the option

Niall

Niall Wallace said:

Oh how do i remove my card from their website, I couldnt' fidn the
option

Enter a dummy number?

~PB

"RG" <nochance> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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"pppeterrr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

So, I'm nosing around wiggle, and put a couple of things in my wishlist.
About £120 worth (enough for the 20% discount).
Several hours later, a £5 discount voucher arrives by email, presumably
not a coincidence.
Hurrah, an extra fiver off!
So of course, I have to buy said items.
Rgds,
Peter

I get the impression from Wiggle's promotions etc that the business is
perhaps experiencing "challenging" conditions - the business was
refinanced at the end of last year, and then of course there was the
alleged credit card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where
loads of card details were accesses - including mine. That said I haven't
been put off purchasing from Wiggle - excellent service and (usually) good
prices - I just don't leave my credit card details on their system

RG

This smacks of rank rumour mongering to me!

I have bought from Wiggle successfully for over 3 years now and have never
had a problem. Their sales response is excellent and they will always
answer questions and give advice. Their delivery is far better than most
others. Prices are also competitive.

I took delivery of an item only yesterday.

As far a I am aware they have always run promotions and with regular
spending I nearly always have at least 5% off!
--
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom.
www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

"Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Niall Wallace said:

Oh how do i remove my card from their website, I couldnt' fidn the
option

Enter a dummy number?

~PB

Indeed, that was the only way I could take my card out

RG

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Quoted message said:

and then of course there was the alleged credit
card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where loads of card
details were accesses - including mine.

When was this? I just had some fraudulent purchases on my card - I
first used Wiggle in December.

My name is Mr Larrington, and I'm a Wiggloholic. And /I/ had some
fraudulent purchases on my plastic towards the end of November 2006...

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives!

Dave Larrington said:

My name is Mr Larrington, and I'm a Wiggloholic. And /I/ had some
fraudulent purchases on my plastic towards the end of November 2006...

Unsurprisingly, if you ask around a cycling newsgroup or web-forum "who has
experienced credit card fraud and also used wiggle recently", lots of
people can answer yes. Considering how many cyclists use wiggle, and how
many people in general experience CC fraud, this doesn't really tell us
anything.

I believe this is how the wiggle-CC-fraud rumour started, and AFAIK there is
no other 'evidence'.

Anthony

RG said the following on 15/02/2007 18:30:

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card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where loads of card details
were accesses - including mine. That said I haven't been put off purchasing
from Wiggle - excellent service and (usually) good prices - I just don't
leave my credit card details on their system

Hmm.. - I've just had to have a card cancelled and re-issued with a
different number because it had apparently been "compromised". This was
the card used for buying on wiggle, but also a few other places.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Anthony Jones said the following on 16/02/2007 09:05:

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Unsurprisingly, if you ask around a cycling newsgroup or web-forum "who has
experienced credit card fraud and also used wiggle recently", lots of
people can answer yes. Considering how many cyclists use wiggle, and how
many people in general experience CC fraud, this doesn't really tell us
anything.

OK then, you don't think it a little odd that a number of people who use
the same on-line shop all suddenly had CC fraud around the end of
November? I have had a number of credit cards for around 20 years, and
still have four, of which three are used regularly, plus my debit card.
In all that time (100 card/years?) with all those cards I have only
ever had two fraudulent transactions. One was years ago when a retailer
wrote an extra "1" on one of those old-fashioned swipe slips, and the
other was during November with a transaction for just £10.00 that was
picked up by my cards security department and blocked after talking to
me. Now I find that other people have had CC fraud at about the same
time using the same shop.

I'm certainly not going to say "wiggle started this fraud", but
circumstantial "evidence", for want of a better word, might mean their
security is worth looking into further if it isn't already.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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OK then, you don't think it a little odd that a number of people who
use the same on-line shop all suddenly had CC fraud around the end of
November? I have had a number of credit cards for around 20 years,
and still have four, of which three are used regularly, plus my debit
card. In all that time (100 card/years?) with all those cards I have
only ever had two fraudulent transactions. One was years ago when a
retailer wrote an extra "1" on one of those old-fashioned swipe
slips, and the other was during November with a transaction for just
£10.00 that was picked up by my cards security department and blocked
after talking to me. Now I find that other people have had CC fraud
at about the same time using the same shop.

Mine were also around the ten quid mark; presumably the tea leaf thought a
small quantity wouldn't be noticed. They were picked up by me, rather than
the bank, but items for UGC Cinemas and Virgin Mobile stood out like a sore
wossname, as I don't have a Virgin mobile and hadn't been to the flicks for
months.

OTOH someone drained TWFKAML's bank account last month and she's /never/
shopped with Wiggle.

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
External Transparent Wall Inspection Operative.

Paul Boyd said:

OK then, you don't think it a little odd that a number of people who use
the same on-line shop all suddenly had CC fraud around the end of
November?

Yes, it may seem a little odd, but without knowing the sample size etc. it's
hard to know whether 'a number' is significant or just a coincidence.

Anthony

Anthony Jones said:

Unsurprisingly, if you ask around a cycling newsgroup or web-forum "who has
experienced credit card fraud and also used wiggle recently", lots of
people can answer yes. Considering how many cyclists use wiggle, and how
many people in general experience CC fraud, this doesn't really tell us
anything.

It is also possible /in theory/ to generate card numbers that appear to be
valid and that just need a little testing to see if they connect to a bank
account.

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Stephen Patterson :: [email hidden] :: http://patter.mine.nu/
GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [email hidden]
"Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven?"

"Stephen Patterson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anthony Jones said:

Unsurprisingly, if you ask around a cycling newsgroup or web-forum "who
has
experienced credit card fraud and also used wiggle recently", lots of
people can answer yes. Considering how many cyclists use wiggle, and how
many people in general experience CC fraud, this doesn't really tell us
anything.

It is also possible /in theory/ to generate card numbers that appear to be
valid and that just need a little testing to see if they connect to a bank
account.

--
Stephen Patterson :: [email hidden] :: http://patter.mine.nu/
GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [email hidden]
"Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas
oven?"

My card issuer phone me after their systems spotted frauds - they were a £5
top up for a mobile phone, £2 a month to a charity and then a £1,200.00
airline ticket. I had to verify various payments of mine and during the
discussion they said the source was believed to be Wiggle - and lots (like
100+) people on various cycling fora reported card hits at the same time and
they were all Wiggle customers. Interestingly Wiggle suddenly started
taking payments via Paypal as well as by a direct card transactions.

BUT as I said in an earlier post I still use Wiggle (too much!!!) but either
pay with Paypal or do not leave my card details with them

RG

Paul Boyd said:

RG said the following on 15/02/2007 18:30:

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card problem that allegedly emanated from Wiggle where loads of card
details were accesses - including mine. That said I haven't been put
off purchasing from Wiggle - excellent service and (usually) good
prices - I just don't leave my credit card details on their system

Hmm.. - I've just had to have a card cancelled and re-issued with a
different number because it had apparently been "compromised". This was
the card used for buying on wiggle, but also a few other places.

I make no accusations, but I made my first ever purchase from Wiggle
on 15 Jan 07.

About 2 weeks later I was contacted by my card issuer and have had to
have my card reissued with a different number due to high-value
fraudulent transactions.

I hope it's a coincidence, because if it isn't it could kill Wiggle,
which seems a good site otherwise.

I did one or two other online transactions around the same time -
either of them is just as likely to be the problem.

Colin McKenzie

--
No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
walking.
Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.

I had my credit card cancelled a week or two ago. I had outstanding
transactions with Wiggle, Amazon and one other company (an obscure
bookseller). It couldn't have been anyone else. Most probably it
wasn't Amazon as this would have hit the media.

So, it was either the bookseller or Wiggle.

My card issuer would not tell me who the dodgy merchant was for
reasons of data protection (sigh) so I had to re-do the orders with
new card details knowing that one of them was iffy. I left out the
bookseller, now I'm not sure that it wasn't Wiggle.

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Niall Wallace said:

Oh how do i remove my card from their website, I couldnt' fidn the
option

Enter a dummy number?

~PB

Indeed, that was the only way I could take my card out

Does 4444 4444 4444 4444 4444 still work?

Or will they take any old number?

Niall

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Niall Wallace wrote:

> Oh how do i remove my card from their website, I couldnt' fidn the
> option

Enter a dummy number?

~PB

Indeed, that was the only way I could take my card out

Quoted message said:

Does 4444 4444 4444 4444 4444 still work?

Quoted message said:

Or will they take any old number?

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Niall

I think you'll find most cards have only 16 digits...

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Edgware.