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  1. Hello,

    I'm having a problem with my headset always coming loose. After a few
    bike rides the headset loosens up. I mount the stem on the steerer
    tube of the fork and load the headset with the compresssion plug.
    Everything works fine until I go for a long ride. I tried increasing
    the load on the headset with the compression plug, but the problem
    returns. I did notice something very odd on the headset. I use a
    Cane Creek S-8 headset. The space between the upper cup and the
    bearing cap is uniform when I load the headset to remove the play.
    However, as soon as I torque down the stem's steer tube clamp bolts,
    the spacing is no longer uniform. In fact, the spacing near the rear
    of the headset becomes compressed, compared to the forward area of the
    headset.

    Does this mean that the bearings of the headset are no longer evenly
    loaded, leading to the loosening of the headset? I do use a torque
    wrench to tightened the stems steerer tube clamp bolts.

    Hardware:

    Headset - Cane Creek S-8
    Stem - Thomson X2
    Fork - Easton EC90 SLX (Carbon Steerer)
    Compression Plug - Profile Design Compression Plug

    Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks.

    Claude
    [email hidden]

  2. C.H. Luu said:

    I'm having a problem with my headset always coming loose. After a few
    bike rides the headset loosens up. I mount the stem on the steerer
    tube of the fork and load the headset with the compresssion plug.
    Everything works fine until I go for a long ride. I tried increasing
    the load on the headset with the compression plug, but the problem
    returns. I did notice something very odd on the headset. I use a
    Cane Creek S-8 headset. The space between the upper cup and the
    bearing cap is uniform when I load the headset to remove the play.
    However, as soon as I torque down the stem's steer tube clamp bolts,
    the spacing is no longer uniform. In fact, the spacing near the rear
    of the headset becomes compressed, compared to the forward area of the
    headset.

    Does this mean that the bearings of the headset are no longer evenly
    loaded, leading to the loosening of the headset? I do use a torque
    wrench to tightened the stems steerer tube clamp bolts.

    Hardware:

    Headset - Cane Creek S-8
    Stem - Thomson X2
    Fork - Easton EC90 SLX (Carbon Steerer)
    Compression Plug - Profile Design Compression Plug

    The scary thing is that the stem is tightening down "crooked"... my
    biggest concern is that the steer tube itself might be damaged
    (possibly by too much torque trying to get the slippage to stop). I'd
    pull the fork and check the steer tube VERY carefully.

    The other thing that occurs to me is that a badly prep'd head tube
    could cause similar problems, though I'm not sure why the "gap" would
    occur only upon tightening down the stem clamp.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  3. Mark Hickey said:
    C.H. Luu said:

    I'm having a problem with my headset always coming loose. After a few
    bike rides the headset loosens up. I mount the stem on the steerer
    tube of the fork and load the headset with the compresssion plug.
    Everything works fine until I go for a long ride. I tried increasing
    the load on the headset with the compression plug, but the problem
    returns. I did notice something very odd on the headset. I use a
    Cane Creek S-8 headset. The space between the upper cup and the
    bearing cap is uniform when I load the headset to remove the play.
    However, as soon as I torque down the stem's steer tube clamp bolts,
    the spacing is no longer uniform. In fact, the spacing near the rear
    of the headset becomes compressed, compared to the forward area of the
    headset.

    Quoted message said:

    Does this mean that the bearings of the headset are no longer evenly
    loaded, leading to the loosening of the headset? I do use a torque
    wrench to tightened the stems steerer tube clamp bolts.

    Quoted message said:

    Hardware:

    Quoted message said:

    Headset - Cane Creek S-8
    Stem - Thomson X2
    Fork - Easton EC90 SLX (Carbon Steerer)
    Compression Plug - Profile Design Compression Plug

    The scary thing is that the stem is tightening down "crooked"... my
    biggest concern is that the steer tube itself might be damaged
    (possibly by too much torque trying to get the slippage to stop). I'd
    pull the fork and check the steer tube VERY carefully.

    The other thing that occurs to me is that a badly prep'd head tube
    could cause similar problems, though I'm not sure why the "gap" would
    occur only upon tightening down the stem clamp.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycleshttp://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

    I have a stem (useless) where the bore for the bar is not square to
    the stem. So to get the bars square to the wheel, the stem needs to
    poke off to one side a bit. Perhaps his stem has the steerer bore
    canted a bit.

    Joseph

  4. C.H. Luu said:

    Hello,

    I'm having a problem with my headset always coming loose. After a few
    bike rides the headset loosens up. I mount the stem on the steerer
    tube of the fork and load the headset with the compresssion plug.
    Everything works fine until I go for a long ride. I tried increasing
    the load on the headset with the compression plug, but the problem
    returns. I did notice something very odd on the headset. I use a
    Cane Creek S-8 headset. The space between the upper cup and the
    bearing cap is uniform when I load the headset to remove the play.
    However, as soon as I torque down the stem's steer tube clamp bolts,
    the spacing is no longer uniform. In fact, the spacing near the rear
    of the headset becomes compressed, compared to the forward area of the
    headset.

    Does this mean that the bearings of the headset are no longer evenly
    loaded, leading to the loosening of the headset? I do use a torque
    wrench to tightened the stems steerer tube clamp bolts.

    Hardware:

    Headset - Cane Creek S-8
    Stem - Thomson X2
    Fork - Easton EC90 SLX (Carbon Steerer)
    Compression Plug - Profile Design Compression Plug

    Are you certain the centering spacer is in place between the upper cone
    and the steerer? If it is upside down or missing you'll have that symptom.
    Oh, and a bearing retainer upside down might also do that.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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