doping

benjo maso said:

A report of the Dutch Ministery of Health showed that in 2005 55.000 had
used doping products (steroids, epo, GHS, etc.), 40.000 of them for the
first time. That's twice as much as in 2001. In the same period the use of
sleeping pills, tranquillizers, tobacco and soft drugs has dropped
significantly. How is that possible? Of course, thanks to internet it had
become easier to buy them. But the other reason without any doubt must be
the millions of dollars of free publicity those products get in newspapers,
on TV, etc. Without all those drug affairs, only specialists would have
heard of epo.
Until now I thought that the anti-doping hunters were only wrecking a
sport. I'm seeing now the damage they are doing is much worse.

Dumbass -

I agree with you that the doping hunters, with their penchant for
publicity, are wrecking the sport, but I disagree with your contention
that it's affecting society in a negative way.

The general public are simply substituting one set of drugs for
another. The effect upon them is neutral.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

benjo maso said:

A report of the Dutch Ministery of Health showed that in 2005 55.000 had
used doping products (steroids, epo, GHS, etc.), 40.000 of them for the
first time. That's twice as much as in 2001. In the same period the use of
sleeping pills, tranquillizers, tobacco and soft drugs has dropped
significantly. How is that possible? Of course, thanks to internet it had
become easier to buy them. But the other reason without any doubt must be
the millions of dollars of free publicity those products get in newspapers,
on TV, etc. Without all those drug affairs, only specialists would have
heard of epo.
Until now I thought that the anti-doping hunters were only wrecking a
sport. I'm seeing now the damage they are doing is much worse.

Pound will be appearing in a AmGen ad soon.

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Quoted message said:

benjo maso said:

A report of the Dutch Ministery of Health showed that in 2005 55.000 had
used doping products (steroids, epo, GHS, etc.), 40.000 of them for the
first time. That's twice as much as in 2001. In the same period the use
of
sleeping pills, tranquillizers, tobacco and soft drugs has dropped
significantly. How is that possible? Of course, thanks to internet it had
become easier to buy them. But the other reason without any doubt must be
the millions of dollars of free publicity those products get in
newspapers,
on TV, etc. Without all those drug affairs, only specialists would have
heard of epo.
Until now I thought that the anti-doping hunters were only wrecking a
sport. I'm seeing now the damage they are doing is much worse.

Dumbass -

I agree with you that the doping hunters, with their penchant for
publicity, are wrecking the sport, but I disagree with your contention
that it's affecting society in a negative way.

The general public are simply substituting one set of drugs for
another. The effect upon them is neutral.

You mean taking human growth hormones instead of marijuana or epo instead of
sleeping pills? Well, you never know...

Benjo

benjo maso said:

A report of the Dutch Ministery of Health showed that in 2005 55.000
had used doping products (steroids, epo, GHS, etc.), 40.000 of them
for the first time. That's twice as much as in 2001. In the same
period the use of sleeping pills, tranquillizers, tobacco and soft
drugs has dropped significantly. How is that possible? Of course,
thanks to internet it had become easier to buy them. But the other
reason without any doubt must be the millions of dollars of free
publicity those products get in newspapers, on TV, etc. Without all
those drug affairs, only specialists would have heard of epo.
Until now I thought that the anti-doping hunters were only wrecking
a
sport. I'm seeing now the damage they are doing is much worse.

Benjo

The U.S. has seen the same thing with the phenomenally popular and
spectacularly ineffective Drug Abuse Resistance Education program. DARE
was a darling of the Reagan administration and there are studies showing it
promotes drug use since it teaches kids the street language.

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http://tinyurl.com/77uuq

The supposed benefit of drugs is now so great we have people thinking that
there is a shot of something they can take that will keep them from getting
shoved around in a pack.

--
Bill Asher

William Asher said:

DARE
was a darling of the Reagan administration and there are studies showing it
promotes drug use since it teaches kids the street language.

I thought they learned it from Seinfeld -- "Opium. Yam-yam. Shanghai
Sally."

--
JT
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

William Asher said:

DARE
was a darling of the Reagan administration and there are studies
showing it promotes drug use since it teaches kids the street
language.

I thought they learned it from Seinfeld -- "Opium. Yam-yam. Shanghai
Sally."

DARE instructors learn it from Seinfeld and then teach it to kids. Most
kids aren't back from having group sex in cheap motel rooms by the time
Seinfeld is on.

--
Bill Asher

On Jan 31, 11:32 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]>

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benjo maso said:

A report of the Dutch Ministery of Health showed that in 2005 55.000 had
used doping products (steroids, epo, GHS, etc.), 40.000 of them for the
first time. That's twice as much as in 2001. In the same period the use of
sleeping pills, tranquillizers, tobacco and soft drugs has dropped
significantly. How is that possible? Of course, thanks to internet it had
become easier to buy them. But the other reason without any doubt must be
the millions of dollars of free publicity those products get in newspapers,
on TV, etc. Without all those drug affairs, only specialists would have
heard of epo.
Until now I thought that the anti-doping hunters were only wrecking a
sport. I'm seeing now the damage they are doing is much worse.

Dumbass -

I agree with you that the doping hunters, with their penchant for
publicity, are wrecking the sport, but I disagree with your contention
that it's affecting society in a negative way.

The general public are simply substituting one set of drugs for
another. The effect upon them is neutral.

Dumbass,

You've finally identified the route to cleaning up doping
in sports. The problem has always been that there are
plenty of incentives to dope and no strong reasons not
to - other than ethics and possible health problems, and
those don't hit people in the pocketbook. You've hit on
the constituency that _is_ hurt by increased doping,
namely the honest, legitimate (if sometimes illegal)
dealers of traditional recreational drugs. What is our
world coming to when hardworking pot-selling Rastas
and Amsterdam coffee shops may be driven out of business
by disreputable Masters racers and skeevy gym rats who
sell steroids on the sly?

Now that we've shown who's really hurt by doping, what
we need is for these dealers to defend their economic
interests. They need better marketing. If people are
loading up on Kenacort and decawhatzit and Aranesp
instead of shooting up and getting high, it's most likely
because they haven't been adequately informed.

As old farts, we know from peer pressure in our youth
that shooting up and getting high is not only fun, but cool -
this is a lesson the cigarette companies taught us all,
both users and dealers. Wouldn't you, or a kid of today,
rather be cool than a muscle-bound, thick-blooded loser
who only dates people that look like his mom?
Laffertyism, WADA and more cops are never going to clean
up sport, but with my approach we might get somewhere.

Sincerely,
F.A. Hayek
RBR Business Consultant