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  1. ddog said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    ddog wrote:

    - on homeless people and bicycles -

    Quoted message said:

    faking getting hit
    by cars at intersections for cash settlements.

    Geez..... :-(

    It happened to me.

    A taxi minivan I was in hit a junkie on a bike, once (this was heerenveen,
    and from the reaction of the cabbie, this was *the* homeless junkie of the
    town), when he erratically dived in front of it. Nothing else happened. We
    both went on our ways, the junkie swearing at us and the cab having lost
    its front license plate.

    Jasper

  2. Leo Lichtman said:

    There is a *huge* difference between donating and throwing away. I donate
    valuable stuff all the time. I hardly ever throw anything away. My place
    is full of stuff that's too good to throw away, and not good enough to
    donate. :-)

    My local charity thingy throws most of the computers (anything older than
    4 or 5 years for sure), let alone dead monitors/TVs, straight into the
    trash. Those (when I can't fix them) I don't donate any more.

    Jasper

  3. "Jasper Janssen" wrote: My local charity thingy throws most of the
    computers (anything older than 4 or 5 years for sure), let alone dead
    monitors/TVs, straight into the trash. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where I live, we're not allowed to throw that stuff in the trash. We have a
    tax-supported recycling center for electronic waste.

  4. "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "* * Chas" wrote: (clip) They get some

    Quoted message said:

    amazing stuff that people donate to them.

    The throw away culture.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    There is a *huge* difference between donating and throwing away. I donate
    valuable stuff all the time. I hardly ever throw anything away. My place
    is full of stuff that's too good to throw away, and not good enough to
    donate. :-)

    Same here, I never throw away useable things, especially bike-related. I
    donate them through various means, freecycle.org (great resource),
    craigslist, emails to friends. Contributing needlessly to landfills and
    global warming doesn't sit too well with my already guilt-ridden conscience.

  5. In article
    <[email hidden]>, Leo

    Lichtman said:

    "Jasper Janssen" wrote: My local charity thingy throws most of the
    computers (anything older than 4 or 5 years for sure), let alone dead
    monitors/TVs, straight into the trash. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where I live, we're not allowed to throw that stuff in the trash. We have a
    tax-supported recycling center for electronic waste.

    Hmm. Just listening to an NPR feed here in Canada; the host is
    detailing the succession of scandals that have flourished under the
    dome of the Capitol. Seems to me that in Congress you also have a
    tax-supported recycling center for a species of rubbish much more toxic
    than obsolete circuitry!

    Luke

  6. Luke, its the toxic solder in electronics.

    Luke said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Leo

    Lichtman said:

    "Jasper Janssen" wrote: My local charity thingy throws most of the
    computers (anything older than 4 or 5 years for sure), let alone dead
    monitors/TVs, straight into the trash. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where I live, we're not allowed to throw that stuff in the trash. We have a
    tax-supported recycling center for electronic waste.Hmm. Just listening to an NPR feed here in Canada; the host is


    detailing the succession of scandals that have flourished under the
    dome of the Capitol. Seems to me that in Congress you also have a
    tax-supported recycling center for a species of rubbish much more toxic
    than obsolete circuitry!

    Luke

  7. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Werehatrack said:

    On 22 Jan 2007 18:15:10 -0800, "Ozark Bicycle"

    may have said:

    I can't think of anything stranger than some newb coming on the group,
    asking a series of strange, off-the-wall questions regarding long
    defunct manufacturers, cheap outdated RDs and five speed freewheels and
    then beginning to expose his sad stereotypes and prejudices. YMMV.

    Not even much verisimilitude in the tales, either. When I lived in
    Florida, the typical asshat who would pull a stunt like the one
    described was a pro. There was contact (of a nature calculated to
    leave plenty of room for claiming greater injury than was present),
    there was careful selection of the target (expensive car driven by
    over-50 white female was the usual pattern), and the perp had a
    domicile and claimed multiple dependents...and had an attorney on
    retainer. Insurance scams were a way of life for a small but
    expensive (for the rest of us) fraction of the population.

    By comparison, when a loon tried to pull a bump-and-scream on a friend
    of mine in a parking lot near here (and yes, she fit the target
    profile I mentioned), she just whipped out a pen and paper, wrote down
    the guy's tag number, the time, and a basic description of the perp
    while she called 911 on her cell phone. What she didn't tell the
    moaning perp was that she told 911 dispatch that she was at the scene
    of an attempted fraud and assault with a motor vehicle. She knew
    there was a security cam pointed directly at her on top of a light
    pole 30 feet away. The cops showed up, they looked things over, one
    of them went inside and reviewed the tape (which was collected as
    evidence) while the paramedics examined the "victim", and the cops
    decided that the gal was right. The perp, instead of getting a free
    ride to the hospital, would up with a much less satisfying ride to the
    county lockup. Last I heard, he was trying to plea bargain, and the
    DA wasn't having any.

    There are a lot of things I don't like about living in Houston, but
    sometimes it rises above the muck...and by comparison to Miami, it's
    damn close to perfect.

    We put with some stuff because the only alternative is
    poor use of our time. Sometimes the clouds part, the
    sun shines, and the almighty smites the godless
    malefactor.

    One fine day I was taking a freeway ramp from one
    freeway to another, a right 90 degree ramp that had a
    badly designed two lanes in, one lane out
    configuration. In the middle where there was less than
    1 1/2 lanes a candidate for compost roars in front of
    me, forcing me to swerve and brake. On my way again a
    highway patrol officer rides up next to me and waves me
    over. I comply, wait, and a couple minutes later he
    comes back to me. He says good day, apologizes at
    length for the candidate's act, again wishes me a good
    day, and sends me on my way. Up the road the malefactor
    is getting a citation.

    --
    Michael Press

  8. Leo Lichtman said:

    "Jasper Janssen" wrote: My local charity thingy throws most of the
    computers (anything older than 4 or 5 years for sure), let alone dead
    monitors/TVs, straight into the trash. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where I live, we're not allowed to throw that stuff in the trash. We have a
    tax-supported recycling center for electronic waste.

    Well.. the TV container at the local 'recycling station', I mean. A small
    yard with a bunch of containers, one each for things like metal, wood,
    plaster, asbestos, white goods, brown goods, other. Also there is a
    trailer owned by said local recycling center, where you can put anything
    you think might be salvageable. Then at the end of the day their guys come
    along, do a rough sort and throw half the stuff away to start with
    (although sorting it into the proper containers).

    The brown and white goods do go to 'recycling', but that's as far as i can
    gather recycling in the sense that they put it through a crusher and then
    'recycle' the bits that look like there might be valuable metal in them,
    as opposed to recycling of the nature of 'here, that's a perfectly good TV
    if we jigger the thingummy there and replace the thang from the junkbox,
    and now somebody'll pay us 200 bucks for it'.

    Jasper

  9. ddog said:

    Luke, its the toxic solder in electronics.

    Solder ain't all that toxic, it's just lead/tin in a 60/40 (usually)
    alloy. Heavy metal posioning at worst. There's lots of stuff much more
    toxic in a circuitboard.

    Jasper

  10. On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:50:44 -0800, Michael Press <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    One fine day I was taking a freeway ramp from one
    freeway to another, a right 90 degree ramp that had a
    badly designed two lanes in, one lane out
    configuration. In the middle where there was less than
    1 1/2 lanes a candidate for compost roars in front of
    me, forcing me to swerve and brake. On my way again a
    highway patrol officer rides up next to me and waves me
    over. I comply, wait, and a couple minutes later he
    comes back to me. He says good day, apologizes at
    length for the candidate's act, again wishes me a good
    day, and sends me on my way. Up the road the malefactor
    is getting a citation.

    Uh.. why is the police apologising to you for something some other guy
    did? Unless they were in hot pursuit of him already?

    Jasper

  11. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Jasper Janssen said:

    On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:50:44 -0800, Michael Press <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    One fine day I was taking a freeway ramp from one
    freeway to another, a right 90 degree ramp that had a
    badly designed two lanes in, one lane out
    configuration. In the middle where there was less than
    1 1/2 lanes a candidate for compost roars in front of
    me, forcing me to swerve and brake. On my way again a
    highway patrol officer rides up next to me and waves me
    over. I comply, wait, and a couple minutes later he
    comes back to me. He says good day, apologizes at
    length for the candidate's act, again wishes me a good
    day, and sends me on my way. Up the road the malefactor
    is getting a citation.

    Uh.. why is the police apologising to you for something some other guy
    did? Unless they were in hot pursuit of him already?

    I do not know how to explain this.

    The officer saw the dangerous driving of the guy, and
    went to detain him. He took time and trouble to erase
    the bad effect on me of the perpetrator's dangerous and
    impolite act. I went on my way a happier man; and one
    less likely to do something dangerous myself (not that
    I in fact drive that way). He gave me time to cool off
    and let me know that this time the malefactor would
    immediately reap what he sowed.

    --
    Michael Press

  12. Jasper Janssen said:
    ddog said:

    Luke, its the toxic solder in electronics.

    Solder ain't all that toxic, it's just lead/tin in a 60/40 (usually)
    alloy. Heavy metal posioning at worst. There's lots of stuff much more
    toxic in a circuitboard.

    There's several pounds of lead in a typical monitor, though.

    --

    John ([email hidden])

  13. Michael Press said:

    Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Uh.. why is the police apologising to you for something some other guy
    did? Unless they were in hot pursuit of him already?

    I do not know how to explain this.

    The officer saw the dangerous driving of the guy, and
    went to detain him. He took time and trouble to erase
    the bad effect on me of the perpetrator's dangerous and
    impolite act. I went on my way a happier man; and one
    less likely to do something dangerous myself (not that
    I in fact drive that way). He gave me time to cool off
    and let me know that this time the malefactor would
    immediately reap what he sowed.

    Makes sense - the initial tendency would be to pull over when the cops
    stopped the idiot, and give him a piece of your adrenaline-charged
    opinion, at which point the cops might have to decide which of you to
    taser. ;-) They might also have considered needing you as a witness
    if they thought they might need one (for example if they found the guy
    was drunk or running drugs or ????, and needed to make sure they had
    an airtight reason for having pulled him over).

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

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