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Polar CS400 and CS600, new cycling PC linked computers

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  1. http://www.polar.fi/press-site/press2/news/310806/index.html

    These products were announced last summer (August 2006) and it seems as
    though Polar is close to shipping one or both some time soon. It looks
    to me as if the CS400 is comparable to the current S series 7,XX and
    625x but without power add-on functions while the CS600 is comparable
    to the best features of the the current monitors I just mentioned and
    the S810's extra memory and more frequent sampling (up to 1 second) and
    beat to bear heart rate metrics (rather than calculating a rate based
    on X during the given sample rate it records every heart beat). There
    are also additional updates / technology upgrades like RF transmissions
    of digital data from the 2.4 GHZ sensors that now can be powered for a
    25" range (because of the problem of cross-talk from other users being
    virtually eliminated in theory at least)

    The power add-on with the CS600 (only) is also enhanced, though I
    can't recall what is improved aside from fewer wires (there is one
    remaining from the derailleur pulley IIRC) and the same (relatively)
    high reliability of the 2.4 GHZ digital coded transmissions I mentioned
    already. The best part is this is all available for a little less than
    a 7/XX with its power add-on. The only downside is that (obviously)
    there is no compatibility with the S-series, so those of us that have
    multiple bikes mounted with sensors will need to replace all of them.
    This is the first time they have done this (all previous wireless
    sensors are compatible with the current S-Series though the recent
    low-end computers that are similar in feature set but are more akin to
    the S-5.XX models also use different technology than the S-6.XX and
    S-7.XX). This will be the first time that a cycling model will be
    available with all of the best features (all previous model groups have
    always had a non-cycling model with beat to beat recording and more
    memory). There are very few compromises. I also think that (reading
    between the lines) the new CS computers use a picture element display
    (aka pixels) that is "fully programmable" in that you can choose
    from lots of display options, or at least more than the current models.
    By the way, I don't know that anyone noticed that the firmware was
    updated on the 725x and 625x (models that can use both cycling and
    running sensors) to allow more display options, like cadence and trip
    distance now available to put in the display options for the largest
    center display line when trip distance was not available before or with
    other current models until you download it to your PC) and a few other
    trivial options that I forget. The only other feature I remember is the
    option of programming "auto-lap" that programs the monitor to
    record a lap for every preset interval. The CS400 and CS600 (and a few
    others I am not sure about) are shipping with the latest Polar software
    called "Pro-trainer 5.0" (based mostly on the PPP version 4, with
    planning features similar to what is available on the web service) and
    an updated interface.

    There was a trial version of the Pro-trainer that was very unstable and
    the shipping version is just as bad, however, the update is already up
    and even more seamless to update from the web auto-magically and it
    replaces all of the core *.exe and .dll files. It runs even more stable
    than the recent PPP 4 software. I am not sure if the demo can be
    updated, but it might be worth a try because the planning feature
    extends the usefulness hugely. The daily plans can be saved as files
    and shared, so coaches can email files for each work session. The
    planning feature is similar to the current "Polar Exercise Session"
    (.pes) files that can be created to load to the watch, but they can
    also be assigned to the calendar, so this is a huge gain in function,
    plus there are some nice additional features that make the session
    plans more useful. I do not know if a coherent plan can be created as a
    simple package the way that historical sessions and diary data can.
    Maybe that would be a nice suggestion for them if it is not already
    there.

    So, that is all I know and I am wondering if anyone has any other info
    regarding features and ship dates on the main units and the separate
    accessories. I see no reason for the need to change IR link technology,
    but the fact that the current picklist in the IR driver controls does
    not include the CS.X models (yet?) makes me a little worried. On the
    other hand, the prices for the accessories are still reasonable and
    street prices are the same now as when the first cycling models were
    first shipped ($40 USD) and while the updated technology would justify
    higher prices, the same can be said for the core units too, and the
    prices are said to be lower. One last thing is that the top models have
    had real-time links available and there is a slim chance the CS600 may
    include this too (as the S810 does). If so, that would be pretty cool
    to have, especially if used with a high quality Ergometer / indoor
    trainer. The only thing missing would be Oxygen metrics and with the
    portable models getting cheaper all the time, it is feasible for
    well-to-do cyclists or teams / clubs with a modest budget to put
    together a pretty good portable lab.

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