Water Loss

fish oil

You're never going to get laid with that much body sweat.

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I found myself losing about 1 pound of fluid every 10 minutes if the ambient temperature is about
80 degrees. Is this normal?

It's not unusual. Temperature makes a huge difference.

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I didn't worry about water loss until now because my runs were no longer than 50 mins. I just
drink about 2 pounds of fluid before I run and then made up for the 3 lbs of water loss when I get
home. Now, my long runs are going to last about 2 hours, I can no longer ignore this problem. Will
those hi-tech running clothes like CoolMax make a significant difference?

They might help a little, but if you're already dressing light, they won't help that much. The main
advantage of these fabrics is that they're less inclined to irritate your skin (wet cotton rubbing
against your skin for an hour or so can be very painful)

Slowing down should help quite a lot -- you simply can't run as quickly at the same exertion level
in this sort of heat.

Maybe some of the long long long distance runners (like Doug) will chime in, but my thought is that
you don't need to completely replace water, and you can afford to drop a few pounds during the run.
If you were to drink 2lb of water during the run and 2lb before, and also slow down, you could
probably reduce your net water loss to 6lb or so.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

(ElfHunter) said:

I found myself losing about 1 pound of fluid every 10 minutes if the ambient temperature is about
80 degrees. Is this normal?

Maybe... if you're a sponge! That's nutz!

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I didn't worry about water loss until now because my runs were no longer than 50 mins. I just drink
about 2 pounds of fluid before I run and then made up for the 3 lbs of water loss when I get home.
Now, my long runs are going to last about 2 hours, I can no longer ignore this problem. Will those
hi-tech running clothes like CoolMax make a significant difference?

No, but a sports drink will help keep you from loosing all that water.

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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In article said:

I found myself losing about 1 pound of fluid every 10 minutes if the ambient temperature is
about 80 degrees. Is this normal?

It's not unusual. Temperature makes a huge difference.

Quoted message said:

I didn't worry about water loss until now because my runs were no longer than 50 mins. I just
drink about 2 pounds of fluid before I run and then made up for the 3 lbs of water loss when I
get home. Now, my long runs are going to last about 2 hours, I can no longer ignore this
problem. Will those hi-tech running clothes like CoolMax make a significant difference?

They might help a little, but if you're already dressing light, they won't help that much. The
main advantage of these fabrics is that they're less inclined to irritate your skin (wet cotton
rubbing against your skin for an hour or so can be very painful)

Slowing down should help quite a lot -- you simply can't run as quickly at the same exertion level
in this sort of heat.

Maybe some of the long long long distance runners (like Doug) will chime in, but my thought is
that you don't need to completely replace water, and you can afford to drop a few pounds during
the run. If you were to drink 2lb of water during the run and 2lb before, and also slow down, you
could probably reduce your net water loss to 6lb or so.

Cheers,

1 pound loss in just 10minutes? yikes! I thought a pound in a half hour (typical for me) was a lot.

As Donovan pointed out, you will likely have to take some fluids with you (water/gatorade/whatever
you prefer). I do not remember the percentage of bodyweight where dehydration begins (something like
6% IIRC). So if you are a heavier runner, a couple pounds may not be significant on a long run.

It is good you are checking on this. Both extremes of water supply, dehydration and hyponatermia can
be dangerous.

Just a final comment, the temperature does not have as much to do with this as you may think. Try
checking your water loss in cooler weather. I think you'll be surprised to find it is not much
different. You may only seem to sweat more in the warmer, humid weather.

HTH and enjoy the run. Ed

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In article said:

I found myself losing about 1 pound of fluid every 10 minutes if the ambient temperature is
about 80 degrees. Is this normal?

It's not unusual. Temperature makes a huge difference.

Quoted message said:

I didn't worry about water loss until now because my runs were no longer than 50 mins. I just
drink about 2 pounds of fluid before I run and then made up for the 3 lbs of water loss when I
get home. Now, my long runs are going to last about 2 hours, I can no longer ignore this
problem. Will those hi-tech running clothes like CoolMax make a significant difference?

They might help a little, but if you're already dressing light, they won't help that much. The
main advantage of these fabrics is that they're less inclined to irritate your skin (wet cotton
rubbing against your skin for an hour or so can be very painful)

I usually wear a light cotton tee shirt and a pair of shorts.

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Slowing down should help quite a lot -- you simply can't run as quickly at the same exertion level
in this sort of heat.

Maybe some of the long long long distance runners (like Doug) will chime in, but my thought is
that you don't need to completely replace water, and you can afford to drop a few pounds during
the run. If you were to drink 2lb of water during the run and 2lb before, and also slow down, you
could probably reduce your net water loss to 6lb or so.

If I can't reduce water loss any other way, I intend to carry 2 24oz water bottles with me. I was
hoping not to have to do this, but it sounds like there isn't much that can be done other than that.

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Cheers,

(ElfHunter) said:

If I can't reduce water loss any other way, I intend to carry 2 24oz water bottles with me. I
was hoping not to have to do this, but it sounds like there isn't much that can be done other
than that.

Hey stupid, do you know how to read? Take the suggestions regarding sports drinks like GA, and stop
your whining.

ElfHunter said:

If I can't reduce water loss any other way, I intend to carry 2 24oz water bottles with me. I
was hoping not to have to do this, but it sounds like there isn't much that can be done other
than that.

Look at water retention. Are you getting enough salt and other electrolytes. Some sports drinks have
electrolytes in them, but there's a good chance you'll need more than that, esp. as your runs get
beyond 2 hr. Do a google search on the group for prior discussions on hyponatremia, electrolytes,
heat, etc. As already mentioned, you may not need to replace 100% of the water during the run.

FWIW, I plan on 40oz (about 2.3 lb) of sports drink with electrolytes if mt biking for 2 hr, but
can probably get by on a little less for running (I tend not to drink as much when running but
don't sweat as much either when running compared with biking hills - at least so far). I use a
camelbak to free up my hands (and carry emergency gear); waist belts with 2 water bottles don't
work for me. YMMV.

Dot

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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(ElfHunter) said:

If I can't reduce water loss any other way, I intend to carry 2 24oz water bottles with me. I
was hoping not to have to do this, but it sounds like there isn't much that can be done other
than that.

Hey stupid, do you know how to read? Take the suggestions regarding sports drinks like GA, and
stop your whining.

Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the
very young.

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(ElfHunter) said:

If I can't reduce water loss any other way, I intend to carry 2 24oz water bottles with me. I
was hoping not to have to do this, but it sounds like there isn't much that can be done other
than that.

Hey stupid, do you know how to read? Take the suggestions regarding sports drinks like GA, and
stop your whining.

Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the
very young.

For the most part, it's actually one troll who keeps forging headers.

I suggest ignoring anything from verizon.net

--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

(ElfHunter) said:

Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the
very young.

Thank you, at my age that's a compliment.

Donovan Rebbechi said:

For the most part, it's actually one troll who keeps forging headers.

I suggest ignoring anything from verizon.net

Why ignore hundreds of legitamit posters because of one guy?

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Donovan Rebbechi said:

For the most part, it's actually one troll who keeps forging headers.

I suggest ignoring anything from verizon.net

Why ignore hundreds of legitamit posters because of one guy?

When a "legitamit" poster from verizon comes along, let me know.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

Donovan Rebbechi said:

When a "legitamit" poster from verizon comes along, let me know.

I'm here.

2-3% is OK. 5% is a concern. Some ultras expell people after they exceed 5%.

If you have dry mouth, color in your urine, or feel sleepy after running, you may be overdoing it.

Water control is one of the things that improves after *years* of running in my experience.

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(ElfHunter) said:

Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the
very young.

Thank you, at my age that's a compliment.

Hmm Alzheimers. I am real sorry to hear that. Maybe running will slow your dementia.

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(ElfHunter) said:

Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the very
young.

Thank you, at my age that's a compliment.

Hmm Alzheimers. I am real sorry to hear that. Maybe running will slow your dementia.

It might if he were to actually run.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

Donovan Rebbechi said:

It might if he were to actually run.

I not only run more miles per day and week than you do, I do it injury free. I've posted where I
run, the time I run, named races I've run, but a jerkoff like you insists I don't run. Golden.

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On 21 Oct 2003 10:55:12 -0700, [email hidden] (ElfHunter) wrote:

>Does your mommy know you are posting to the net? I observed that the percentage of trolls on
>rec.running is higher than usual. It is heartening to see that running is popular among the
>very young.

Thank you, at my age that's a compliment.

Hmm Alzheimers. I am real sorry to hear that. Maybe running will slow your dementia.

It might if he were to actually run.

I think he does run. I mean it is clear that he has a lot of free time.

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Cheers,