Koolstop brake pads

Joel said:

I just installed some Koolstop pads on my Dura Ace brakes.
They seem thinner than Dura Ace pads which makes me wonder how long
they will last.
Also they flare out towards the back, so the back of the pad is almost
touching the rim and there is a large gap between the rim and front of
the pad. I wonder if the flared part of the pad will wear first making
it flatter over time.

Joel

I've run the KoolStop salmon pads in my Dura Ace brakes for over two
years now and they show little sign of wear. They stop so much better
than the standard pads, I wouldn't care if I had to replace them
yearly, they are that much better.

The *flared* part of the pad is designed to touch the rims first and
wipe away water and debris. Again, wear is not a big factor with these
pads.

Congradulations!

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/brakeshoes.html

Kool Stop Salmon Brake Shoes
Nothing Else Comes Close!

Joel said:

I just installed some Koolstop pads on my Dura Ace brakes.

Joel said:

I wonder if the flared part of the pad will wear first making
it flatter over time.

Yes.

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Joel wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Also they flare out towards the back, so the back of the pad is almost
touching the rim and there is a large gap between the rim and front of
the pad. I wonder if the flared part of the pad will wear first making
it flatter over time.

You installed them backwards.

The only reason I want the Scott Mathauser solid rust (red) block pads,
is they look like they would last forever. The Kool Stop Continental
pads are still expected on Harris site Dec, 15, 2006 (since at least 2
months before that). So if the biggest retailer around can't get Kool
Stop Continental pads and if the outer barrier wears down quick, then
you are without good brakes for an indefinite period of time.

landotter said:

Joel wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Also they flare out towards the back, so the back of the pad is almost
touching the rim and there is a large gap between the rim and front of
the pad. I wonder if the flared part of the pad will wear first making
it flatter over time.

You installed them backwards.

They aren't backwards. The rear end of the pad touches the rim first.

Cam

ddog said:

The only reason I want the Scott Mathauser solid rust (red) block pads,
is they look like they would last forever. The Kool Stop Continental
pads are still expected on Harris site Dec, 15, 2006 (since at least 2
months before that). So if the biggest retailer around can't get Kool
Stop Continental pads and if the outer barrier wears down quick, then
you are without good brakes for an indefinite period of time.

You can get silver/gray Continentals on eBay real cheap. I bought some
but haven't tried them yet. I've got the KS salmons on all my bikes,
and they do last nearly forever.

Art Harris

Art,

I'll just keep black until get rust pads. The only thing I don't know
about Kool Pads is how thick is that layer over the whole pad/bracket.
It can't be too thick if uniform. I'd like to see a cut open one to
understand better.

But if they are not manufacturing any, what's the difference? Harris is
the biggest specialized store cattering to older bike owners, so if its
difficult to get them then nobody else will be able to as well. Talking
with Micahael of Scott Mathauser brake pads, by not getting Harris as a
retailer evidently killed their distribution making them hard to get
with only mom/pop stores in North West LBS's. He seemed to think that
if Harris couldn't make specific design requests, then Harris would not
carry them.

My question is if Harris can't get KS Continentals, then why not carry
Scott Mathauser's for just that brand if possible? Older bikes need to
stop too (especially us big guys)! Give the consumers an opportunity to
decide what they want when they want it, imo :-) T hey are visibly
well constructed, and a drain cut on that size pad shouldn't make any
significant improvements. As well, the rubber on outside of bracket is
not 'prettier' to me: its just a softer material that will be harder to
keep clean versus metal.

Thanks,
Phil Bailey

Art Harris said:

ddog said:

The only reason I want the Scott Mathauser solid rust (red) block pads,
is they look like they would last forever. The Kool Stop Continental
pads are still expected on Harris site Dec, 15, 2006 (since at least 2
months before that). So if the biggest retailer around can't get Kool
Stop Continental pads and if the outer barrier wears down quick, then
you are without good brakes for an indefinite period of time.

You can get silver/gray Continentals on eBay real cheap. I bought some
but haven't tried them yet. I've got the KS salmons on all my bikes,
and they do last nearly forever.

Art Harris

landotter said:

Joel wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Also they flare out towards the back, so the back of the pad is almost
touching the rim and there is a large gap between the rim and front of
the pad. I wonder if the flared part of the pad will wear first making
it flatter over time.

You installed them backwards.

Terminology issue. The flared part touches the rim first, which means it's
oriented toward the rear of the bike.

Jasper