Winter ride

Not with proper preperations.
http://www.icebike.org
http:/ww.bikewinter.org
http://alaskaultrasport.com/

Quoted message said:

I was going to take a ride around the lake but it was too cold:

http://tinyurl.com/yllx9g

Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

I was going to take a ride around the lake but it was too cold:

http://tinyurl.com/yllx9g

Jobst Brandt

Contrary to a few of those captions, this storm did not involve Lake
Geneva WI. All of the pictures are from Switzerland. Three of the
pictures are captioned Lake Geneva, WI, but they are three copies of
the same picture. Run a search on "Lake Geneva icestorm", and you will
find that very photo included with the other Swiss photos. Some
subsequent blogger obviously misidentified the community, and later
bloggers passed along that error.

I was suspicious for a few reasons:

1. The effects of the storm looked identical in all the photos, and it
would be the wildest coincidence to have that in two communities 4000
miles apart named [Lake] Geneva.

2. I have some knowledge of the Lake Geneva, WI waterfront, and didn't
recognize the scene.

3. The roads would never look that bad hours after the storm. In most
WI communities, salt trucks arrive almost simultaneously with the
frozen precipitation, and unless temperatures are bitter cold - below,
say 15F - (when you'd get powdery snow if anything), the roads would be
wet, not coated with deep ice. Ever since a mayor of Chicago got
bounced out of office during the 1970s for his slow response to a big
storm, midwestern politicians have been very careful about this.

4. A storm that bad would get substantial local publicity. I don't
recall any,

5. My bike riding logs in Milwaukee - a scant 50 miles north - don't
show any real weather issue at all at the time.

"Ron Wallenfang" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was going to take a ride around the lake but it was too cold:

http://tinyurl.com/yllx9g

Jobst Brandt

Contrary to a few of those captions, this storm did not involve Lake
Geneva WI.

Ron, thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why I didn't remember such
a big storm so recently.

Mike
(about 60 miles SE of Lake Geneva, Wisconsin)

Quoted message said:

I was going to take a ride around the lake but it was too cold:

http://tinyurl.com/yllx9g

Jobst Brandt

No problem. Just ride across the lake, but watch for the icefishing holes:

http://tinyurl.com/wnrd5

Bill Westphal

Le Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:30:06 -0800, Ron Wallenfang a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Contrary to a few of those captions, this storm did not involve Lake
Geneva WI. All of the pictures are from Switzerland. Three of the
pictures are captioned Lake Geneva, WI, but they are three copies of
the same picture. Run a search on "Lake Geneva icestorm", and you will
find that very photo included with the other Swiss photos. Some
subsequent blogger obviously misidentified the community, and later
bloggers passed along that error.

I was suspicious for a few reasons:

1. The effects of the storm looked identical in all the photos, and it
would be the wildest coincidence to have that in two communities 4000
miles apart named [Lake] Geneva.

2. I have some knowledge of the Lake Geneva, WI waterfront, and didn't
recognize the scene.

I have some knowledge of the Geneva, Switzerland waterfront, and I do
recognize the scene. I also remember the event, that very much made the
headlines in Switzerland at the time !

Quoted message said:

3. The roads would never look that bad hours after the storm. In most
WI communities, salt trucks arrive almost simultaneously with the
frozen precipitation, and unless temperatures are bitter cold - below,
say 15F - (when you'd get powdery snow if anything), the roads would be
wet, not coated with deep ice. Ever since a mayor of Chicago got
bounced out of office during the 1970s for his slow response to a big
storm, midwestern politicians have been very careful about this.

What we see on the photographs is not really "the roads", which were
probably dry at that time, and the event was not caused by snowfall. What
happened was that very strong winds blew water from crashing waves to the
neighboring piers and waterfront, where it froze instantly due to low
temperatures. I doubt any amount of salt could have prevented this !

By the way, regarding salt: the policy here is Switzerland is now to
reduce more and more the amount of salt spread on roads because too much
salt affects the quality of lake- and underground water. Good for the
environment, but bad for cycling as many secondary roads can become badly
slippery during a few weeks in winter !

fastturtle said:

Le Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:30:06 -0800, Ron Wallenfang a écrit :

Quoted message said:

What we see on the photographs is not really "the roads", which were
probably dry at that time, and the event was not caused by snowfall. What
happened was that very strong winds blew water from crashing waves to the
neighboring piers and waterfront, where it froze instantly due to low
temperatures. I doubt any amount of salt could have prevented this !

By the way, regarding salt: the policy here is Switzerland is now to
reduce more and more the amount of salt spread on roads because too much
salt affects the quality of lake- and underground water. Good for the
environment, but bad for cycling as many secondary roads can become badly
slippery during a few weeks in winter !

A while back I was sent a Powerpoint slide show consisting of this
series of photos set to music. The town is identified as Versoix,
Switzerland, and the lake is identified as Leman lake (sorry, I can't
get my computer to do the proper accent over the "e"😉.
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