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  1. Because we carry our bikes inside our van, we'd rather they were not
    covered in mud, grit, etc. when we load them into the van. So, we've got a
    system to clean the bikes before loading that might be of interest to
    anyone who transports their bikes to go offroad etc.

    We have two garden pump-up sprays - a two-pint one and a five-litre one
    http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I082.asp and
    http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I083.asp

    We fill the small spray with diluted Fenwicks caravan cleaner (but that's
    because we're also caravanners - so use your favourite detergent), and the
    large one with plain water.

    When we get back from a ride, we give the bikes a quick hose down with the
    plain water on coarse spray. This knocks off the worst of the crud. We then
    wet the bikes with detergent from the small spray, leave a few minutes and
    then rinse off with plain water. If there's any crud left on the bikes, we
    retreat with detergent and use a soft brush to loosen the dirt before again
    rinsing.

    With the bikes sparkling, we spin the wheels to dry them, chamois the
    frames, and give the chains and mechs a quick shot of GT85 before stowing
    them in the van. This also means that we don't need to unload the bikes to
    clean them if we plan another ride before we need the van for something
    other than carrying bikes!

    Because the garden sprays we use are hand-pumped, they provide a mini
    pressure wash facility anywhere. It only takes about half the contents of
    both sprays to do both our bikes.

    OK, not rocket science - but it's made our lives easier and I hope it helps
    someone else.

  2. Will Cove said:

    Because we carry our bikes inside our van, we'd rather they were not
    covered in mud, grit, etc. when we load them into the van. So, we've
    got a system to clean the bikes before loading that might be of
    interest to anyone who transports their bikes to go offroad etc.

    We have two garden pump-up sprays - a two-pint one and a five-litre
    one http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I082.asp and
    http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I083.asp

    We fill the small spray with diluted Fenwicks caravan cleaner (but
    that's because we're also caravanners - so use your favourite
    detergent), and the large one with plain water.

    When we get back from a ride, we give the bikes a quick hose down
    with the plain water on coarse spray. This knocks off the worst of
    the crud. We then wet the bikes with detergent from the small spray,
    leave a few minutes and then rinse off with plain water. If there's
    any crud left on the bikes, we retreat with detergent and use a soft
    brush to loosen the dirt before again rinsing.

    With the bikes sparkling, we spin the wheels to dry them, chamois the
    frames, and give the chains and mechs a quick shot of GT85 before
    stowing them in the van. This also means that we don't need to unload
    the bikes to clean them if we plan another ride before we need the
    van for something other than carrying bikes!

    Because the garden sprays we use are hand-pumped, they provide a mini
    pressure wash facility anywhere. It only takes about half the
    contents of both sprays to do both our bikes.

    OK, not rocket science - but it's made our lives easier and I hope it
    helps someone else.

    It'll help get water in the bearings if you're not very careful or lucky.
    Even low pressure hoses/sprays are risky in this way.

    ~PB

  3. In article <[email hidden]>

    Pete Biggs said:

    Will Cove wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Because the garden sprays we use are hand-pumped, they provide a mini
    pressure wash facility anywhere. It only takes about half the
    contents of both sprays to do both our bikes.

    OK, not rocket science - but it's made our lives easier and I hope it
    helps someone else.

    It'll help get water in the bearings if you're not very careful or lucky.
    Even low pressure hoses/sprays are risky in this way.


    As long as you're careful not to spray directly at the seals (e.g. spray
    the hubs from above, not from the side) a low-pressure spray shouldn't
    be a problem. Proper pressure washers shouldn't be let anywhere near
    bearings - they will not only get water in the bearing, but can also
    force grit past the seals. Some detergents contain corrosive substances
    like salt which should obviously be thoroughly rinsed away, and any
    bare metal thoroughly dried or treated with a moisture displacing spray.

  4. "Rob Morley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Pete Biggs said:

    Will Cove wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Because the garden sprays we use are hand-pumped, they provide a mini
    pressure wash facility anywhere. It only takes about half the
    contents of both sprays to do both our bikes.

    OK, not rocket science - but it's made our lives easier and I hope it
    helps someone else.

    It'll help get water in the bearings if you're not very careful or lucky.
    Even low pressure hoses/sprays are risky in this way.


    As long as you're careful not to spray directly at the seals (e.g. spray
    the hubs from above, not from the side) a low-pressure spray shouldn't
    be a problem. Proper pressure washers shouldn't be let anywhere near
    bearings - they will not only get water in the bearing, but can also
    force grit past the seals. Some detergents contain corrosive substances
    like salt which should obviously be thoroughly rinsed away, and any
    bare metal thoroughly dried or treated with a moisture displacing spray.

    Fenwicks is caravan cleaner is very much like Mucoff (sp)?? In fact
    Fenwicks now market there cleaners in £1 sachets which dilutes to form a
    bike cleaning solution. It does a very good job at loosening dirt and
    rinses off a treat with no noticeable effects on paintwork or metal
    surfaces. I like the idea of using pump action bottles and I'm likely to
    have a go next time I take my mountain bike out in the car. The salt in
    cleaning solutions theory has yet to be resolved in any of the cycling
    forums that i have read. There are those who swear by washing up liquid -
    "It's been used for four generations in my family on their cars and bikes
    with no ill effect" and those who vehemently oppose it but with no direct
    evidence "My bike dealer told me not to use it". I have not seen any
    contrary evidence that is supported by some validated lab work.

    FWIW I've used washing up liquid on my motorcycles for thirty years with a
    car shampoo and wax every six months or so and on my bikes for longer with
    only the past few years given over to the bike specific cleaning solutions.
    The only difference that I have noticed is that the bikes rinse down faster
    with the cleaning [censored] and theres no 'chasing of the suds' which was
    time consuming when using washing up liquid.

  5. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    It'll help get water in the bearings if you're not very careful or
    lucky. Even low pressure hoses/sprays are risky in this way.

    Noted - although I haven't had any such ill effects in the two years or so
    I've been using this kit. That said, most days we could probably clean four
    bikes using six litres of water and a tablespoon of Fenwicks. On "bad"
    days, we still have a little left in each sprayer. So that's each bike
    cleaned with between a litre and a half and three litres of water and so
    not much exposure for the bearings.

  6. Will Cove said:

    Because we carry our bikes inside our van, we'd rather they were not
    covered in mud, grit, etc. when we load them into the van. So, we've
    got a system to clean the bikes before loading that might be of
    interest to anyone who transports their bikes to go offroad etc.

    We have two garden pump-up sprays - a two-pint one and a five-litre
    one http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I082.asp and
    http://www.hozelock.com/sprayers/I083.asp


    <snip>

    Ah - been using one of those for years now, in much the same way! I take a
    couple to 5L water bottles to refill it all as well.....

  7. "Will Cove" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    That said, most days we could probably clean four

    Quoted message said:

    bikes using six litres of water and a tablespoon of Fenwicks. On "bad"
    days, we still have a little left in each sprayer.

    Where's the best (cheapest!) place to buy it please?

    Jc/

  8. "Josey" <nospam@josey> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Will Cove" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    That said, most days we could probably clean four

    Quoted message said:

    bikes using six litres of water and a tablespoon of Fenwicks. On "bad"
    days, we still have a little left in each sprayer.

    Where's the best (cheapest!) place to buy it please?

    Jc/

    also, has anyone tried stardrops for cleaning bikes?

    JC

  9. "Josey" <nospam@josey> wrote in news:458e5143$0$8758$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-
    reader02.plus.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Where's the best (cheapest!) place to buy it please?

    If you mean Fenwick's caravan cleaner - most caravan shops sell the stuff
    but at a higher price than the cheapest I've found on-line. Waudby's price
    is about six and a half quid, but unless you want more than just the
    cleaner, their minimum delivery charge puts the price up to more than most
    caravan shops charge over the counter.

    FWIW, Fenwicks actually do a bike cleaner - but at £5.95 a litre *ready
    mixed* it seems horrendously expensive when compared to their caravan
    cleaner, a bottle of which has lasted us for two years of cleaning our
    caravan, van, towcar, and bikes. So one litre of Fenwicks caravan cleaner
    should last years if your only going to use it clean your bikes a few times
    a week.

    HTH

  10. Josey said:

    "Josey" <nospam@josey> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Will Cove" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    That said, most days we could probably clean four

    Quoted message said:

    bikes using six litres of water and a tablespoon of Fenwicks. On "bad"
    days, we still have a little left in each sprayer.


    Where's the best (cheapest!) place to buy it please?

    Jc/

    also, has anyone tried stardrops for cleaning bikes?


    I leave my bike mucky, to at least deter casual biker thieves, but then
    again I don't take it out on mad expeditions down mountain tracks (well
    unless that's the shortest route to the pub!)

  11. "Will Cove" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Josey" <nospam@josey> wrote in news:458e5143$0$8758$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-
    reader02.plus.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Where's the best (cheapest!) place to buy it please?

    If you mean Fenwick's caravan cleaner - most caravan shops sell the stuff
    but at a higher price than the cheapest I've found on-line. Waudby's price
    is about six and a half quid, but unless you want more than just the
    cleaner, their minimum delivery charge puts the price up to more than most
    caravan shops charge over the counter.

    FWIW, Fenwicks actually do a bike cleaner - but at £5.95 a litre *ready
    mixed* it seems horrendously expensive when compared to their caravan
    cleaner, a bottle of which has lasted us for two years of cleaning our
    caravan, van, towcar, and bikes. So one litre of Fenwicks caravan cleaner
    should last years if your only going to use it clean your bikes a few
    times
    a week.


    Two sachets of their bike cleaner concentrate costs a total of £2 from my
    LBS and dilutes to make a litre which is considerably cheaper than muc Off
    and Halfords' own brand cleaners.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>
    vernon <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The salt in
    cleaning solutions theory has yet to be resolved in any of the cycling
    forums that i have read. There are those who swear by washing up liquid -
    "It's been used for four generations in my family on their cars and bikes
    with no ill effect" and those who vehemently oppose it but with no direct
    evidence "My bike dealer told me not to use it". I have not seen any
    contrary evidence that is supported by some validated lab work.

    FWIW I've used washing up liquid on my motorcycles for thirty years with a
    car shampoo and wax every six months or so and on my bikes for longer with
    only the past few years given over to the bike specific cleaning solutions.
    The only difference that I have noticed is that the bikes rinse down faster
    with the cleaning [censored] and theres no 'chasing of the suds' which was
    time consuming when using washing up liquid.


    I sometimes use washing up liquid on cars and bikes. Car cleaning
    usually only happens when the car looks a real mess. Bike cleaning
    usually only happens as part of occasional maintenance, and is more
    likely to consist of a wipe down with an oily rag or a quick brush to
    shift lumpy bits. I don't suppose I'd notice the difference between
    using washing up liquid and 'proper' car shampoo anyway, but washing up
    liquid /does/ contain salt (in varying amounts) and salt /is/ one of the
    things you want to keep away from metal.

  13. Rob Morley said:

    I sometimes use washing up liquid on cars and bikes. Car cleaning
    usually only happens when the car looks a real mess. Bike cleaning
    usually only happens as part of occasional maintenance, and is more
    likely to consist of a wipe down with an oily rag or a quick brush to
    shift lumpy bits. I don't suppose I'd notice the difference between
    using washing up liquid and 'proper' car shampoo anyway, but washing
    up liquid /does/ contain salt (in varying amounts)

    How much, on average, I wonder?

    Quoted message said:

    and salt /is/ one
    of the things you want to keep away from metal.

    It's only bad when it's wet (for long), isn't it? Park your bike in a warm
    dry place and it should be alright. There was an interesting bit in an
    episode of "Coast" on a salt mine. The vehicles never have a problem with
    corrosion despite being saturated with salt - simply because it's so dry
    down there.

    Anyway, most metal components are anodised these days, even the
    silver-coloured ones, so I don't worry about them when wiping with a cloth
    damp with diluted washing up liquid. Might be a different matter for
    painted frames, though.

    .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Happy Christmas to all u.r.c readers

    ~PB

  14. In article <[email hidden]>

    Pete Biggs said:
    Rob Morley said:

    I sometimes use washing up liquid on cars and bikes. Car cleaning
    usually only happens when the car looks a real mess. Bike cleaning
    usually only happens as part of occasional maintenance, and is more
    likely to consist of a wipe down with an oily rag or a quick brush to
    shift lumpy bits. I don't suppose I'd notice the difference between
    using washing up liquid and 'proper' car shampoo anyway, but washing
    up liquid /does/ contain salt (in varying amounts)

    How much, on average, I wonder?

    AFAIK good stuff is less than 2%, cheaper is supposedly quite a lot
    more.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    and salt /is/ one
    of the things you want to keep away from metal.

    It's only bad when it's wet (for long), isn't it?

    True.

    Quoted message said:

    Park your bike in a warm dry place and it should be alright.

    Some of my bikes spend some of their time in the "coal hole", which is
    in the house but the floor is below the DPC, so not ideal.

  15. Will Cove said:

    So one litre of Fenwicks caravan cleaner
    should last years if your only going to use it clean your bikes a few
    times a week.

    There's absolutely no chance of me cleaning my bikes that often. Once a
    month at best, once a year at worst...
    --
    Chris

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Slade

    Quoted message said:

    There's absolutely no chance of me cleaning my bikes that often.
    Once a month at best, once a year at worst...

    As often as is necessary which can be once a day :-(( Joe Public
    doesn't want to hire bikes which don't look good and if they are
    given a thorough cleaning regularly it is also easier to spot
    problems before they develop into serious faults.

    Meryy Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year to all posters
    and lurkers on the ng.

    --
    T h e - e x t e n d e r ! ! ! !

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